The FBI has a new way of tracking you!

[freakazoid]

They are up to their old tricks again. The FBI has a new way of tracking you.........

http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/

:eek:

[Korono]

I'm fucking moving to Canada.

[freakazoid]

I'm fucking moving to Canada.
If they keep it up, the whole country might end up moving to Canada. :eek:

[Proud 2 b White]

Hell go to Cannada we dont want you foreign people anyway.

[this_is_bullshit]

Hell go to Cannada we dont want you foreign people anyway.


Racism is for faggot pussies IMHO. Too scared of difference, so you act hateful. Don't say you are not, your post & your name says it all.

[freakazoid]

Hell go to Cannada we dont want you foreign people anyway.
Born in the United States, Moron. You do know where the United States is don't you, shit for brains?

[vixuxx]

If they keep it up, the whole country might end up moving to Canada. :eek:
Don't move here! We can't take that many fucking people.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Don't move here! We can't take that many fucking people.

Actually Canada has alot of land up North yet that is barely populated and isn't much of any use to anyone. If anyone here in the U.S. really is that paranoid they can move up there, build a nice little 4 foot by 4 foot shack and sit shivering in the rocking chair with a rifle aimed at the door. You won't even notice them and everyone will be happier!

[General Septem]

In all seriousness, it's impossible for them to track every link that anyone clicks on the internet. The only way they could do it is possibly if they had the support of ISPs. Even at that it's unlikely they could track everything you download on all protocols, such as BitTorrent, ed2k://, and so forth.

[vulcan]

is just matter of time for Canada to become a USA State....
and Bush for King:D

[freakazoid]

In all seriousness, it's impossible for them to track every link that anyone clicks on the internet. The only way they could do it is possibly if they had the support of ISPs. Even at that it's unlikely they could track everything you download on all protocols, such as BitTorrent, ed2k://, and so forth.

True enough, General, but as they try, they will destroy our freedom in the mean time. :mad:

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

What is freedom but an illusion anyways? The only time that we can really have freedom is when a government does not exist. Civilized man kind cannot operate without a government and avoid chaos. So why not look for the good side of the additions the government is making by keeping track of its slaves?

[General Septem]

Because generally speaking our freedoms end when they impede on others' freedoms. But the government is looking to even further impose, which is where the problem comes in. Sure, they're only keeping an eye on terrorists. But unfortunately anyone to the left of Ann Coulter is considered a terrorist. In fact this new stuff isn't even helping us in the real terrorism department. Like that time they had Al-Zarqawi or whatever his name is in custody for about five minutes and then let him go because they didn't know who he was (yeah I don't believe it either). Or the numerous times when judges have let the accused off because the evidence against them was gathered illegally. Or how about the fact that we already knew about the whole 9/11 thing in advance even without the whole spy shit, and we couldn't (or didn't) do anything anyway.

[seegs]

I am a Canadian, I moved to the US just over a year ago. National borders just don't mean as much as they used to. All the damn Trade agrements and sanctions make it imposible for a government to hold on to their sovereinty. The corporations and internationalist mentality bulldoze through the borders. With no care for what the average citizens opinions are.

[Paisleyspeaker]

Hell go to Cannada we dont want you foreign people anyway.

Is your penis really that small? What else could you possibly hold against non-whites? And what tribe are you from? Sioux, Oglala? No your white. That makes you a foriegner. Your ancestors gate crashed just like everyone elses. You must have something to be proud of other than your skin color. And it's Canada.

[REPTILE]

Yeah, the true native americans (indians) were jacked by the jolly old englishmen. All we gave them was a few small reservations, and the right to have some casinos and gas stations with 97 octane. Their the one that should claim ownership to this country, its rightfully theirs.

[Tein]

In all seriousness, it's impossible for them to track every link that anyone clicks on the internet. The only way they could do it is possibly if they had the support of ISPs. Even at that it's unlikely they could track everything you download on all protocols, such as BitTorrent, ed2k://, and so forth.

Sorry to bump an old thread it seems. But I read a few comments on here that was from 06' that I felt I should bring to attention.

You are right about one thing General Septem, they may not be able to track your every single move, but they're awfully damn close to it. And if they can't, hell. All they have to do is serve a subpoena to whatever provider or server admin in question and copy the IP's right off the hard drive. The logs can tell a variety of different information, originating/destination.

The way MPAA, RIAA and other organizations who are willing to keep on ruthless lawyers and law makers to further their goals and ambitions to keep the entertainment industry monopolized, doesn't look good for the common man.

The really bad thing about them(and I'm singling them out because that's a real big media event in this time period) is that these judges giving in and ruling in their favor, disregard the fact that they themselves are breaking the law by spying on these torrent/filesharing communities, or at least that's how I see it. Furthermore, all it takes is them pressuring the local police to track down the server of the said people hosting the search engine site for these torrents(which btw doesn't host files themselves, just act as a search engine like you'd use google, metacrawler, or yahoo)then looking at the IP logs. Tracing it back the ISP who owns it, then from there threaten them with legal action if they don't fork over the identity of who they are leasing it out to(I.E.: You, me, or any tom dick or larry they decide their going to point a figure at) and of course, they abide, and send you a nasty letter saying quit or be banned from their service. So how can they rule against someone with just an IP saying you got something from this file? I don't know. But it's happening. They prove to have downloaded files directly from people computers, but in most cases they cannot produce hard evidence. But yet they are winning in the P2P/filesharing/torrent scene!!...

You may be asking, what's the point of this big ass rant, well you're probably right. Wait. No, you're not. Think about this. If all these people have to do is flash some money around some lawyers to get what they want, do you think the FBI is going to have a hard time finding out what they need to know about what you do on the internet? Hell no.

The more you know will make you question your freedoms integrity. What you don't know will frighten you.

What is freedom but an illusion. (if someone quoted that, I dunno who.)

Peace.

[Phoenix]

Freedom is in fact an illusion, at least it is in this god-forsaken plutocracy.

The way they can figure it out is because your ISP assigns you a specific IP address which is traceable through a number of services. McAfee's older products had a tracer built right in, not sure about now.

Problem is, you can't use it for hard evidence because in most cases they assign a dynamic IP, which means that someone completely innocent could be nailed for something someone else did while they had that IP address.

[Tein]

Freedom is in fact an illusion, at least it is in this god-forsaken plutocracy.

The way they can figure it out is because your ISP assigns you a specific IP address which is traceable through a number of services. McAfee's older products had a tracer built right in, not sure about now.

Problem is, you can't use it for hard evidence because in most cases they assign a dynamic IP, which means that someone completely innocent could be nailed for something someone else did while they had that IP address.

Indeed. Yet another paradox in today's scenario.

[angellica1975]

Freedom is in fact an illusion, at least it is in this god-forsaken plutocracy.

The way they can figure it out is because your ISP assigns you a specific IP address which is traceable through a number of services. McAfee's older products had a tracer built right in, not sure about now.

Problem is, you can't use it for hard evidence because in most cases they assign a dynamic IP, which means that someone completely innocent could be nailed for something someone else did while they had that IP address.

that could be true.


Indeed. Yet another paradox in today's scenario.

they're are many paradox's.

[Phoenix]

Thing is, someone needs to go kill off those bastards. I mean, normally I wouldn't say kill someone because they want to be paid for their services, but come on, average song price: $0.99. If you pirate songs? The RIAA comes in and settles out of court for how much? $3000 a song.

If you pirate software, say you pirate Windows Vista Ultimate : $310 worth of software. If someone catches you, you can be sued up to $250,000 per title and up to 5 years in prison.

This shit is ridiculous. I mean, I'm typically for rehabilitation myself, but come on, the punishment should not exceed the crime. Personally, I think a punishment which exceeds the crime it attempts to correct is a crime within itself.

And besides, I still say you cannot steal music. Say you take a bunch of paper into a library and copy down every word in a book. Is this the same as just taking the book without checking it out? It's the same with music. When you "steal" music, you actually aren't taking anything because the original still remains wherever you downloaded it from. Downloading is just a fancy way of saying copy from the internet.

The definition of steal:

to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force: A pickpocket stole his watch.
Again, you cannot take what is nonphysical, you can only copy it, or move the storage device it is on.

Data is information, and information is nonphysical, therefore it cannot be stolen.

So how can they kick your ass? ©. That little symbol marked the end of our freedom.

But what does it mean, in short? Copyright basically means that a corporation knows something (data is information) that you don't, and will license it to you under certain terms and typically for a fee, and can sue your ass for $10,000 and 5 years in prison if you learn it from someone else.
Now, isn't this just the best country on the goddamn planet?

[Limbo]

If you pirate software, say you pirate Windows Vista Ultimate : $310 worth of software.

The real crime here is what Micro$oft charges for their crappy operating systems.

Part of this is driven by the goofy patent system in the U.S. that allows companies to patent obvious and simple ideas used in software design. Now, Micro$oft can go after any competitor (including open source) and either run them out of business, or demand ridiculous royalties. It's this artificial limiting of competition that allows M$ to get away with charging what they do, and releasing low quality garbage software to the masses.

[LedZap]

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[Phoenix]

The real crime here is what Micro$oft charges for their crappy operating systems.

Part of this is driven by the goofy patent system in the U.S. that allows companies to patent obvious and simple ideas used in software design. Now, Micro$oft can go after any competitor (including open source) and either run them out of business, or demand ridiculous royalties. It's this artificial limiting of competition that allows M$ to get away with charging what they do, and releasing low quality garbage software to the masses.
Absolutely.

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I've never really liked M$, but check this out... gotta love this...
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[LedZap]

Awesome.....!