Psychic Encyclopedia's?

[Dubyah's revenge]

Did you know you can go back every four years to many of the encyclopedia's that were printed the year before the presidential elections, to that edition, and read the President that is going to be elected in that Presiential year, and he isn't going to be elected until the Fall of that year.

The dictionary is printed in spring with the president that is elected that year before he is actually elected?

Do your self a favour and laugh a little laugh at the same time.......
pop down to your local library and have a look some of your encyclopedia's available.

Who still thinks their vote counts?

[MrJim]

I have a lot of encyclopedias, mainly due to the fact my grandfather passed away... they don't have much information on what you're getting at.... conspiracy kind of stuff.... mind elaborating?

[Dubyah's revenge]

They have information on the presidents? They're printed the same year or up to a year before the president of that year is elected, yet they already have him in the book as the elected president of that year?

[MrJim]

They have information on the presidents? They're printed the same year or up to a year before the president of that year is elected, yet they already have him in the book as the elected president of that year?

I'll go to the library next week (was going anyway) & check it out... that would be an interesting find indeed!

[WhiteRaven]

Do they really?! Weird, if it's some big conspiracy, then the government would be smarter than that, so I really don't know what's going on there.

[MrJim]

Alright, DR, at the library, I looked through the Grolier's 1992 and 2000 editions of the encyclopedia and did not find your startling evidence of a presidential conspiracy under Clinton, Bill or Bush, George W... they only mention their accomplishments as governers of Texas and Arkansas... Are you sure you aren't looking at the YEAR BOOKS for those years? They do contain their elections for president, but the publish dates are the following year.

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This reminds me, didn't Al Gore really get more votes then Bush? How could he win then, do you only count the votes from states or what?

[hitekredneck]

This reminds me, didn't Al Gore really get more votes then Bush? How could he win then, do you only count the votes from states or what?

no, al gored did NOT, repeat, did NOT get more votes than bush, and each and EVERY recount proved it...anybody that denies the recounts is either too stoned to see the truth, or extremely brain damaged

[hitekredneck]

Alright, DR, at the library, I looked through the Grolier's 1992 and 2000 editions of the encyclopedia and did not find your startling evidence of a presidential conspiracy under Clinton, Bill or Bush, George W... they only mention their accomplishments as governers of Texas and Arkansas... Are you sure you aren't looking at the YEAR BOOKS for those years? They do contain their elections for president, but the publish dates are the following year.

jim, i'm a thinkin that dr is also unclepops...

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no, al gored did NOT, repeat, did NOT get more votes than bush, and each and EVERY recount proved it...anybody that denies the recounts is either too stoned to see the truth, or extremely brain damaged

So it's myth. Well, that makes much more sense. So where did that myth come from in the beggining?

[hitekredneck]

So it's myth. Well, that makes much more sense. So where did that myth come from in the beggining?

it came from disgruntled left wing extremists upset that their poster child couldn't quite get it done...of course, it WAS extremely close, and there was foul play on both sides just like every other election...the only person that i believe would be worse than al gored is billary bitchin...i don't have a problem with a woman in the white house, it would probably be a welcome change...but i do not want that woman anywhere near the button...she's more crooked than her husband could ever hope to be...i'ld like to see condi rice run, but she's gonna be set up as a fall-guy probably for this administration for something we haven't seen yet

[something]

it came from disgruntled left wing extremists upset that their poster child couldn't quite get it done...of course, it WAS extremely close, and there was foul play on both sides just like every other election...the only person that i believe would be worse than al gored is billary bitchin...i don't have a problem with a woman in the white house, it would probably be a welcome change...but i do not want that woman anywhere near the button...she's more crooked than her husband could ever hope to be...i'ld like to see condi rice run, but she's gonna be set up as a fall-guy probably for this administration for something we haven't seen yet

Okay... Billary Bitchin hehe. My local newspaper said she is most likely to win the election, but after this forum I'm not so sure anymore...

[General Septem]

Okay... Billary Bitchin hehe. My local newspaper said she is most likely to win the election, but after this forum I'm not so sure anymore...

A lot of polls have shown the same, but I'm reluctant to believe them. I hope for the sake of the fate of the country and for the masses' intelligence that it's not just wishful thinking on my part.

[hitekredneck]

A lot of polls have shown the same, but I'm reluctant to believe them. I hope for the sake of the fate of the country and for the masses' intelligence that it's not just wishful thinking on my part.

i'm thinkin even atheists are prayin the same :D hell, it's bad enough people are talkin about killin her before she's even elected :eek: ....i don't want her dead, i just don't want her in office :cool:

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i'm thinkin even atheists are prayin the same :D hell, it's bad enough people are talkin about killin her before she's even elected :eek: ....i don't want her dead, i just don't want her in office :cool:

Even atheists? I thought she was christian?

[hitekredneck]

Even atheists? I thought she was christian?

no...i meant that atheists are prayin she don't get elected...i think she's only christian when it gets her votes...:rolleyes:

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no...i meant that atheists are prayin she don't get elected...i think she's only christian when it gets her votes...:rolleyes:

Ah, sorry, I missunderstood.

[hitekredneck]

Ah, sorry, I missunderstood.

'sokay mang...it happens to the best of us...american politics would have confused einstein and confucious :D :p

[Dubyah's revenge]

Your all spitting about what president to be voting for? Why?

Realistically it's between McCain and Guilliani, although hilary clinton did say she was pro-one world government.
McCain is so Pro-iran war that the Council on foriegn relations with either pick him to be their puppet..... or perhaps puppet number two, (guilliani) who did such a good job disposing of the twin towers steel before any kind of investigation could be done.

Why did the ex-lawyer Guilliani destroy the evidence on what should have been a criminal investigation? He HAS been a good little boy for the power elite!

Stop with this kidding-yourself-it's-a-democracy bullshit. please.

[conspiracy]

Your all spitting about what president to be voting for? Why?

Realistically it's between McCain and Guilliani, although hilary clinton did say she was pro-one world government.
McCain is so Pro-iran war that the Council on foriegn relations with either pick him to be their puppet..... or perhaps puppet number two, (guilliani) who did such a good job disposing of the twin towers steel before any kind of investigation could be done.

Why did the ex-lawyer Guilliani destroy the evidence on what should have been a criminal investigation? He HAS been a good little boy for the power elite!

Stop with this kidding-yourself-it's-a-democracy bullshit. please.

So how about that website or information that says who is getting elected before it happens? Shouldn't you be headed to a bookie by now?

Conspiracies are written upon more than made up information. Where's your proof?

OH! Let me guess. You have NONE! If you really want to talk conspiracy then you found the right forum, HOWEVER until you provide more fact than fiction then you're just as bad as our democratic press that spews stories before fact.

[MrJim]

Your all spitting about what president to be voting for? Why?

Realistically it's between McCain and Guilliani, although hilary clinton did say she was pro-one world government.
McCain is so Pro-iran war that the Council on foriegn relations with either pick him to be their puppet..... or perhaps puppet number two, (guilliani) who did such a good job disposing of the twin towers steel before any kind of investigation could be done.

Why did the ex-lawyer Guilliani destroy the evidence on what should have been a criminal investigation? He HAS been a good little boy for the power elite!

Stop with this kidding-yourself-it's-a-democracy bullshit. please.

My vote next year is a no-brainer...

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[hitekredneck]

My vote next year is a no-brainer...

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dammit, jim...:mad:
yer supposed ta write in jerry garcia!!!

[General Septem]

I'm voting for Ann Coulter. :D

Ron Paul and Ann Coulter 2008

[hitekredneck]

I'm voting for Ann Coulter. :D

Ron Paul and Ann Coulter 2008

how bout jerry garcia and tia carrerra? :D

[WhiteRaven]

"This reminds me, didn't Al Gore really get more votes then Bush? How could he win then, do you only count the votes from states or what?"

it is possible to get more popular votes, but less electoral college votes, I don't know if that's what happened with those two, it's annoying, but some deny it, and others profess it, I seem to remember it being on the news, though. The electoral college votes are the ones that matter, but they are determined by the popular votes.

[hitekredneck]

"This reminds me, didn't Al Gore really get more votes then Bush? How could he win then, do you only count the votes from states or what?"

it is possible to get more popular votes, but less electoral college votes, I don't know if that's what happened with those two, it's annoying, but some deny it, and others profess it, I seem to remember it being on the news, though. The electoral college votes are the ones that matter, but they are determined by the popular votes.

yeah, it's possible, but not likely...it's only happened twice in the history of the electoral college, back in the late 1800's.....the problem with plurality is then you'ld have high-density population centers like l.a. and n.y. running the rest of the country....in a representative replublic like ours, plurality wouldn't work...

[Dubyah's revenge]

Why is there still people alive that believe that their vote is counted?

In a democracy, the government taxes the people in order to pay for the running of the country.
Sorry folks, but not a single cent from your pocket goes to the funding of the country.

Private bankers took control of the federal reserve during the christmas of 1913.
It's the banker's that own the government.
I suggest you pick up a book and read something about it.

When the bankers own control of the money, they own control of the government.
Why do you think the price of the dollar is at it's lowest in history? The banker's have been printing money without having the gold to back it up.

A country's government that does not own the currency does not own the country. Therefore america is not democracy. There is no Law that allows the IRS to tax your labour.
When you people start to understand this we can start to come together and do something about it.

[hitekredneck]

Why is there still people alive that believe that their vote is counted?

In a democracy, the government taxes the people in order to pay for the running of the country.
Sorry folks, but not a single cent from your pocket goes to the funding of the country.

Private bankers took control of the federal reserve during the christmas of 1913.
It's the banker's that own the government.
I suggest you pick up a book and read something about it.

When the bankers own control of the money, they own control of the government.
Why do you think the price of the dollar is at it's lowest in history? The banker's have been printing money without having the gold to back it up.

A country's government that does not own the currency does not own the country. Therefore america is not democracy. There is no Law that allows the IRS to tax your labour.
When you people start to understand this we can start to come together and do something about it.


christ on a crutch, here we go again...friend, i suggest you put down the crack pipe and step away from the computer for a while...at least until you quit seeing conspiracies in everything from ufo's to the lack of nookie in your
life...i also suggest you do a lil more research from some more credible sources other that the nation examiner or enquirer or whatever the fuck they call those supermarket rags nowadays...america ISN'T a fuckin democracy, it's a representative republic...can you understand the words that you are reading?...if not, read slower puhlease...do you understand what a representative repulic is and how it works?...and just because i hate taxes, they ARE necessary to run the infrastructure of the fuckin country... :rolleyes:
and another thing...it's the stupid jackasses like you that tell everybody their vote don't count that's partially responsible for a lot of the problems with our government...jim might be voting for none of the above, but he's VOTING....if enough people vote, you mental midget, then change occurs...that's how it works in a representative republic

[Dubyah's revenge]

christ on a crutch, here we go again...friend, i suggest you put down the crack pipe and step away from the computer for a while...at least until you quit seeing conspiracies in everything from ufo's to the lack of nookie in your
life...i also suggest you do a lil more research from some more credible sources other that the nation examiner or enquirer or whatever the fuck they call those supermarket rags nowadays...america ISN'T a fuckin democracy, it's a representative republic...can you understand the words that you are reading?...if not, read slower puhlease...do you understand what a representative repulic is and how it works?...and just because i hate taxes, they ARE necessary to run the infrastructure of the fuckin country... :rolleyes:
and another thing...it's the stupid jackasses like you that tell everybody their vote don't count that's partially responsible for a lot of the problems with our government...jim might be voting for none of the above, but he's VOTING....if enough people vote, you mental midget, then change occurs...that's how it works in a representative republic

Oh my God, you are being serious?

Your a perfect product.

Ask yourself: What is the federal reserve system? (Learn all you can about it!)
I don't use crack but i do happen to read.
I'd like you to learn about what it means to have a private bank that is owned by private bankers in control of the entire monetary system of a country.
And a country that is controlled by a private bank is in fact a socialist state.

Once you've learned a little more about the federal reserve, how it started and by whom, then you won't have to quote that school book text stuff. Cheers.

[General Septem]

Ask yourself: What is the federal reserve system? (Learn all you can about it!)
I don't use crack but i do happen to read.
I'd like you to learn about what it means to have a private bank that is owned by private bankers in control of the entire monetary system of a country.
And a country that is controlled by a private bank is in fact a socialist state.

Once you've learned a little more about the federal reserve, how it started and by whom, then you won't have to quote that school book text stuff. Cheers.

The Fed is partially governmental and partially private. It is run by federal boards of directors and funded privately by banks investing stock in it. There is no one bank that owns the whole thing.

[hitekredneck]

The Fed is partially governmental and partially private. It is run by federal boards of directors and funded privately by banks investing stock in it. There is no one bank that owns the whole thing.

you ain't gonna be able to get this character to see sense, gen...i still think it's unclepops in drag

[Dubyah's revenge]

The Fed is partially governmental and partially private. It is run by federal boards of directors and funded privately by banks investing stock in it. There is no one bank that owns the whole thing.

The Fed is completely private and has been since december 22nd, 1913.
The NY fed is the master bank but there's a dozen smaller banks linked to it.
It has the power to print, ask the Rockefeller Dynasty.
You see, thats the basic recognition of understanding better, the world we are living in now.
The size of a country's monetary system is equal or lesser than it's gold reserves. You can't have paper money flowing through society when there is no gold in the safe to back it up!!
Read up on it. The banker's of america have been printing paper money as and when they've needed it for 96 years. That's why america's economy is fucked! That's why in actual fact, the dollar is only worth about 4 cents now.
Stop quoting this wikipedia bullshit, turn off your tv's and read something that could help save the future's of you and your families.

[hitekredneck]

The Fed is completely private and has been since december 22nd, 1913.
The NY fed is the master bank but there's a dozen smaller banks linked to it.
It has the power to print, ask the Rockefeller Dynasty.
You see, thats the basic recognition of understanding better, the world we are living in now.
The size of a country's monetary system is equal or lesser than it's gold reserves. You can't have paper money flowing through society when there is no gold in the safe to back it up!!
Read up on it. The banker's of america have been printing paper money as and when they've needed it for 96 years. That's why america's economy is fucked! That's why in actual fact, the dollar is only worth about 4 cents now.
Stop quoting this wikipedia bullshit, turn off your tv's and read something that could help save the future's of you and your families.

why don't you try to find some fuckin truth in life instead of fomenting hate against your own country, moron?...if you despise our country so much, then leave...it's that fucking simple...as i've said before, people like you are the same as fundementalist islamics...you try to spread terror, albeit of a different sort, and act as if it's truth....you obviously have nothing better to do with your life, and for that, i feel nothing but pity for you...so, dr, unclepops, whatever the fuck you wanna call yourself, i sugget you try to get a clue :cool:

[WhiteRaven]

"The NY fed is the master bank but there's a dozen smaller banks linked to it.
It has the power to print, ask the Rockefeller Dynasty.
You see, thats the basic recognition of understanding better, the world we are living in now.
The size of a country's monetary system is equal or lesser than it's gold reserves. You can't have paper money flowing through society when there is no gold in the safe to back it up!!
Read up on it. The banker's of america have been printing paper money as and when they've needed it for 96 years. That's why america's economy is fucked! That's why in actual fact, the dollar is only worth about 4 cents now."

actually, paper money is no longer backed by gold or silver, or anything for that matter... it's called fiat money, and it's worth as much as the government says it is. Why don't you take your own advice and do some reading?

http://www.kwaves.com/fiat.htm

[MrJim]

The size of a country's monetary system is equal or lesser than it's gold reserves. You can't have paper money flowing through society when there is no gold in the safe to back it up!!

Well, you see, there's this little place called Fort Knox... :rolleyes:

[Dubyah's revenge]

Thank's for that link, it backs up a bit about what i'm saying.
The american dollar is the world reserve currency (at the moment).
That means that all worldwide transactions in oil are automatically done in dollars, regardless of which country is doing the transaction.

There is a couple of countries in the world that have, and are thinking about using the EURO instead of the dollar for their oil transactions.
Did you know that?
Yeah, the countries are...... Afghanistan and Iraq changed over to Euro and Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Russia and china have raised the idea of changing over. The world's oil industry is more than aware that the american economy is near breaking point.

Let me guess, your going to call me name's again.

[hitekredneck]

Thank's for that link, it backs up a bit about what i'm saying.
The american dollar is the world reserve currency (at the moment).
That means that all worldwide transactions in oil are automatically done in dollars, regardless of which country is doing the transaction.

There is a couple of countries in the world that have, and are thinking about using the EURO instead of the dollar for their oil transactions.
Did you know that?
Yeah, the countries are...... Afghanistan and Iraq changed over to Euro and Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Russia and china have raised the idea of changing over. The world's oil industry is more than aware that the american economy is near breaking point.

Let me guess, your going to call me name's again.
i won't call you names if you answer the questions i give...anybody can say just about anything without unsubstatiated proof...i've yet to see you offer more than offal...the same smelly shit that fundementalist muslims, disgruntled communists, and dedicated anarchists try to spread all the time...if i wanted to hear or read that crap, i'ld turn on hillary clinton, check out al-jazeera, or open the daily enquiring examiner in the grocery line...

[Dubyah's revenge]

i won't call you names if you answer the questions i give...anybody can say just about anything without unsubstatiated proof...i've yet to see you offer more than offal...the same smelly shit that fundementalist muslims, disgruntled communists, and dedicated anarchists try to spread all the time...if i wanted to hear or read that crap, i'ld turn on hillary clinton, check out al-jazeera, or open the daily enquiring examiner in the grocery line...

BUT IT'S TRUE.
Learn about it and wake up. I'm none of those people you mention above, I'm just a regular guy with a good family and job. Over the years i've educated so many as to the truth. As soon as we all come together and realise the world we are living in now and why it's all happening, the better. We're not better than each other in this forum, we've all got brains and balls. We speak up on matters that interest and concern us.
Well this concern's me. It concern's me and I've learnt and continue to learn about this particular subject for many years. It is not a conspiracy theory, but it is a conspiracy.
It changed my life when i started to learn about 9/11. Then the hunger for more real information relating to 9/11 followed. Once i realised that there is 100,000's of normal people just like me all over the world that have taken a little time to look at the facts.
I laugh at the divide of opinion because it's not like the christian putting a book into the lap of the atheist and asking him to believe in an all encompasing entity that created everything. No. All people like me(9/11 truth) are trying to do is asking people to look at factual information. Real (reach-out-and-touch-it) facts concerning that day 9/11 and what happened in New York. Turn off your CNN, and open a book.

[WhiteRaven]

"The world's oil industry is more than aware that the american economy is near breaking point."

we are in tremendous debt, I don't deny that. But I do not believe that that necessarily means the american economy is going to collapse.

"we've all got brains and balls."

yeah, maybe that was not the best choice of words, because I have seen women on here before, and women do not usually have balls...

"All people like me(9/11 truth) are trying to do is asking people to look at factual information. Real (reach-out-and-touch-it) facts concerning that day 9/11 and what happened in New York."

I believe the following quote from Maddox's april fools article sums that up...

"I'm just a kid with a laptop who discovered the truth, but I encourage you to do your own research and come to your own conclusions based on my premise that the government is lying to you and that your disagreement with said premise constitutes your admission of being a sheep."

seriously, give us a book title, a newspaper, a fucking link for god's sake.

Also, what is the obsession with 9-11? Do you think the government caused it? if so you need to read this. (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons)

[MrJim]

The american dollar is the world reserve currency (at the moment). That means that all worldwide transactions in oil are automatically done in dollars, regardless of which country is doing the transaction.

There is a couple of countries in the world that have, and are thinking about using the EURO instead of the dollar for their oil transactions. Did you know that?

Oh they are, are they? Oil economists have attributed the falling value of the dollar and the rising value of the Euro to higher US oil prices in the past, when Brent Crude was trading lower than Light, Sweet Crude. How does one make that argument now?


Light, sweet crude for June delivery rose 56 cents to settle at $62.37 a barrel in afternoon trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. On London's ICE Futures exchange, June Brent crude finished at $66.83 a gallon, up $1.04.

At some points here of late, European crude has traded as much as $5 higher than in the US... so run that by me again, the value of the dollar and the value of the Euro do what in terms of oil prices?

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There is a couple of countries in the world that have, and are thinking about using the EURO instead of the dollar for their oil transactions.
Did you know that?
Yeah, the countries are...... Afghanistan and Iraq changed over to Euro and Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Russia and china have raised the idea of changing over. The world's oil industry is more than aware that the american economy is near breaking point.

That's good news for me :D

[hitekredneck]

That's good news for me :D

only if you believe that shit:rolleyes:

[something]

only if you believe that shit:rolleyes:

Of course not, but the Euore is stronger then the dollar for the moment.

[Dubyah's revenge]

Of course not, but the Euore is stronger then the dollar for the moment.

Yes, thats right. In fact, if you look most GNP models since 2001.... they speak for themselves. The dollar is.. errr.... (lol!) a fucking laugh!!!!

[chihuahua236]

scuse me but wtf is this thread about!!!!!

[Dubyah's revenge]

scuse me but wtf is this thread about!!!!!

LOL!!!! Go to the beginning and read........ (you understand?)..

It's like a book chihuahua! You start at the beginning? Yes????

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Yes, thats right. In fact, if you look most GNP models since 2001.... they speak for themselves. The dollar is.. errr.... (lol!) a fucking laugh!!!!

Still, most countries trade in dollars...

[Dubyah's revenge]

Still, most countries trade in dollars...

It's the world's reserve currency, i think it's been that since that ww2. All worldwide oil transactions are conducted in dollars. Except for the few countries that changed over to euro's, including Afghanistan, iraq, iran!!!! Coincidence? No it is not. 1973, Henry Kissinger and posse decided to start faking reduced oil stocks as a pretext to increase the prices.
That combined with the 'Fiat' economy (paper money creation with no gold collateral) has inevitably reduced the price of the dollar.
I find it pretty boring but it helps to understand why the U.S. in the bad state it is now..... why the world is in a bad state.

[something]

It's the world's reserve currency, i think it's been that since that ww2. All worldwide oil transactions are conducted in dollars. Except for the few countries that changed over to euro's, including Afghanistan, iraq, iran!!!! Coincidence? No it is not. 1973, Henry Kissinger and posse decided to start faking reduced oil stocks as a pretext to increase the prices.
That combined with the 'Fiat' economy (paper money creation with no gold collateral) has inevitably reduced the price of the dollar.
I find it pretty boring but it helps to understand why the U.S. in the bad state it is now..... why the world is in a bad state.

Uhmm, we didn't start with euro untill just a cuople of years ago.

[Dubyah's revenge]

Uhmm, we didn't start with euro untill just a cuople of years ago.

That's a bit vague. A couple of years??? Can you be more precise?

[hitekredneck]

It's the world's reserve currency, i think it's been that since that ww2. All worldwide oil transactions are conducted in dollars. Except for the few countries that changed over to euro's, including Afghanistan, iraq, iran!!!! Coincidence? No it is not. 1973, Henry Kissinger and posse decided to start faking reduced oil stocks as a pretext to increase the prices.
That combined with the 'Fiat' economy (paper money creation with no gold collateral) has inevitably reduced the price of the dollar.
I find it pretty boring but it helps to understand why the U.S. in the bad state it is now..... why the world is in a bad state.

well hell...does that mean if ya don't like the world ina bad state, you're gonna leave?....i can hope, ya know

[Dubyah's revenge]

only if you believe that shit:rolleyes:

Oh dear Hitekredneck!! Come on, please? IT'S NOT A MATTER OF BELIEF!!!!
It's actually fact. Yeah...... real economics.