The rewards of Islam

[freakazoid]

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[beelzebub]

Freakazoid

You are really crazy: "The rewards of Islam" is a very broad topic to post such a narrow minded post.

While I could give a shit less about any religon I certanly would have not titled this sting that way because I am concerned about others.

[freakazoid]

Freakazoid

You are really crazy: "The rewards of Islam" is a very broad topic to post such a narrow minded post.

While I could give a shit less about any religon I certanly would have not titled this sting that way because I am concerned about others.
Just a little humor, beelzebub, nothing to get all in a huff about. Have a drink and relax a bit, theres a good chap. :rolleyes: ...

Perhaps if the crazy bastards running around stealing jets and slamming them into big buildings would relax a little, get nicely drunk once in a while and have a laugh, we would'nt have to wonder what the hell the psychotic morons will try next. QED. :cool:

[Zzyzx]

I thought it was hilarious, freak - keep 'em coming.

Speaking of narrow-mindedness, beelzebub, how about those crazies burning down embassies / rioting over a Danish cartoon? They're such an enlightened crowd, and I bet they'd love to hear your feelings.

[freakazoid]

I thought it was hilarious, freak - keep 'em coming.

Speaking of narrow-mindedness, beelzebub, how about those crazies burning down embassies / rioting over a Danish cartoon? They're such an enlightened crowd, and I bet they'd love to hear your feelings. Yeah, man, they're morons, what's worse; sick religious morons! (nothing against peaceful religious people) WTF? Killing people over a stupid cartoon? :confused: ASSHOLES!

[Korono]

Hahahahahaha! Holy shit, man, that's fucking halarious.

[freakazoid]

Hahahahahaha! Holy shit, man, that's fucking halarious.

LOL, I hope it comes true for them! LOL...And let us not forget...

a.. Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No
Muslim outrage.

b.. Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to
escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No
Muslim outrage.

c.. Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to
school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.

d.. Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No
Muslim outrage.

e.. Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and
hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.

f.. A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills
six. No Muslim outrage.

g.. Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan,
Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.

h.. Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich
Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.

i.. Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children
in Israel. No Muslim outrage.

j.. Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways
and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.

k.. Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.

l.. Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali.
No Muslim outrage.

m.. Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons.
No Muslim outrage.

n.. Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one
of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.

o.. Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their
shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.

p.. Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting
Mohammed. Muslims ARE outraged...

Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses.

Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .

no Muslim outrage ...

but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and
all hell breaks loose. :eek:

[Korono]

While I wholly agree, there is something you must consider. Next to God there is nothing more sacred to Muslims than Mohammed.

[freakazoid]

While I wholly agree, there is something you must consider. Next to God there is nothing more sacred to Muslims than Mohammed.

True point. And I add that I believe in respecting such beliefs. I wish islam did also. :(

[bullshitmaster]

While I wholly agree, there is something you must consider. Next to God there is nothing more sacred to Muslims than Mohammed.


If the innocent lives that have been abruptly terminated were not considered sacred by those heartless murderers, who cares what is SACRED to those killers?

And what kind of mothers who are proud to raise children whose life's objective is to blowup innocent people? They must be the lowest kind of bitches.

[beelzebub]

Bla bla bal ...... No Muslim outrage

but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and
all hell breaks loose. [/B]:eek:
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THATS GREAT! Excellent!

[freakazoid]

THATS GREAT! Excellent! Bla bla bal ...... No Muslim outrage
All those dead people killed by terrorists..."Bla Bla Bla"...kind of like abortion...all those dead babies killed by abortionists..."Bla Bla Bla..."


http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1219/bloodiedchild28hu.jpg

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3903/saltabortion19wk9vu.jpg

The contrast is stunning.

[this_is_bullshit]

All those dead people killed by terrorists..."Bla Bla Bla"...kind of like abortion...all those dead babies killed by abortionists..."Bla Bla Bla..."


http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1219/bloodiedchild28hu.jpg (http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1219/bloodiedchild28hu.jpg)

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3903/saltabortion19wk9vu.jpg

The contrast is stunning.


That little girl wasn't dead in that picture BTW.

Anywho, in response to the post by Freakazoid, about outrage, here is outrage for ME, Muslims, by nature, by order & by the Qu'Ran are NOT prone to violence, as a matter of fact, a TRUE Muslim (Moslem) is bound by the 5 factors of Islam (& God) Love, Truth, Peace, Freedom, & Justice.

These so-called Muslims over there & here that pull this crap, they aren't Muslims, they are terrorists, that is like the dope dealer that goes to Church on Sunday that calls himself a Christian, heck, that's like a good majority of people that call themselves Christians, they have sex outside of Wedlock, they smoke, drink, cuss, lust, behave rudely to their neighbors, & generally do pretty much everything that jesus spoke against in the New Testament.

Point is, these terrorists call themselves Muslims & you believe it? If you truly believe that someone that TRULY believes in the same, yes SAME, God as Christians (just different belief/worship structure, much like the Jewish belief) would act like this to others, then I think you need to restudy @ Sunday school, mass, or wherever you got your so-called facts. Quit watching the news to get educated, do the research & THEN post.

You make me SICK.

Edit: Wording.

[this_is_bullshit]

LOL, I hope it comes true for them! LOL...And let us not forget...

a.. Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No
Muslim outrage.
Terrorists, see above post.

b.. Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to
escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No
Muslim outrage.
sMiddle East custom, not actually Islamic belief.

c.. Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to
school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
Can we say, Terrorist? Extremists?


d.. Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No
Muslim outrage.
Again, Terrorists, I think there is a pattern here.

e.. Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and
hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.

Hmmmm, Terrorists maybe?

f.. A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills
six. No Muslim outrage.

Again, canned response, yet surprisingly, TRUE! Terrorism.

g.. Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan,
Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.

Terrorism, see above post, what God loving/fearing person, of any religion would kill Children?

h.. Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich
Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.

Duh, terrorism.

i.. Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children
in Israel. No Muslim outrage.

I am getting sick of reiterating, terrorists.

j.. Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways
and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.

Well, what can I say? Terrorists.

k.. Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
Hmmm, Terrorists.

l.. Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali.
No Muslim outrage.

Well, yup, terrorism.

m.. Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons.
No Muslim outrage.

Anti-sematics have been around since the fued between Jews & Muslims has been & again, that is territorial fueds between tribes, not Muslims.

n.. Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one
of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.

Well, what are we? We have our noses up EVERYONE's asses. Thats a fact bubba. Let's not start hating the new so called enemy, lest we forget the MOST bloody wars in History, the Crusades, in the name of Catholasism. Calling the kettle black are we?


o.. Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their
shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims? I think you just hate anyone non-Christian, which is not the Christian way, read the New Testament & get some insight my hateful brethren. I believe the word you meant to use was terrorists.

p.. Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting
Mohammed. Muslims ARE outraged...
Mohammed brought the word of God down from the mountain, where he was collecting his thoughts, to his people, which was brought to him by the Arch-Angel, Gabriel, a messenger of God, why wouldn't they be upset? He was their prophet! He brought them to God more or less! Would a Christian want to see a cartoon with Jesus depicted in such a manner? I think not!

Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses.

Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .

no Muslim outrage ...
Last time I am going to say this, you ignorant media worshipping ass. Yes, Media worshipping, if you were truly anything close to a man/woman of God, you would seek out the TRUTH before accusing an ENTIRE One-God loving/fearing religion, which, BTW is MUCH like Jewish beliefs & similar to Christianity, minus the whole Holy Trinity/Jesus=Savior deal. "... at the hands of TERRORISTS." NOT Muslims. Geeeeesh, moron. Seriously, get educated.


but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and
all hell breaks loose. :eek:
Duh, I said it above, read what I said about Mohammed, then STFU mmmk?



I would like to add more, find my responses to this post in red, in the above quote.


My response? Yea, all up there, now, kindly get re-educated, stop worshipping that false idol called media & get some REAL truth before posting. However, I doubt you will, I feel that you will actually come back & flame right back, because you have already proven your ignorance once & I am baiting you by calling you names, which fit, BTW.

By truths, I mean go Study Islam, talk to people in a Mosque sometime, see if they believe that Muslims would do such a thing. This is Middle Eastern customs & terrorist bullshit. Good day to you sir, I wish you the best of luck in finding the truth, cuz it sucks being in the dark.

P.S. Unsure on spelling above for Catholasism? Also, did you know that the name "Allah" is not actually a name? It is the word "God" in Arabic, let us not forget, slandering Allah is simply slandering God, & I don't think God likes that.

Edit: Typos.

[freakazoid]

this_is_bullshit, you are EXTREMELY un-informed and your screen name is appropriate.

Case in point, your comment of...

"did you know that the name "Allah" is not actually a name? It is the word "God" in Arabic..."


Wrong. Completely wrong. The name "allah" was a common name used for a minor and localized pagan "moon god" of fertility in the time of the "prophet mohammed." It was picked up and used by this so-called "prophet mohammed" as a convenent title for a god of the religion he was founding. Please do your research better before posting your comments. Historians, linguists, and archeologists have dug into this question for over a century. Various archeological digs in Arabia and throughout the Middle East have uncovered the answer to the word "allah" ...islam is no more than a modern version of the ancient fertility religion of this moon god. Once this is grasped, the rise and history of islam becomes clearer even to the ignorant such as yourself.

The Arab conquests of the time were made possible because the central powers in the Middle East had exhausted themselves in wars against each other. They were not able to fight off wave after wave of Arab armies which subdued entire nations with merciless slaughter, rape and plunder.


Further
Reference...


According to the Encyclopedia of Religion, before Islam the Arabs recognized many gods and goddesses, each tribe had their own deity. There were also nature deities. Allah was a fertility god of the local Quarish tribe, which was Mohammed's tribe before he invented Islam to lead his people out of their polytheism. Allah was then known as the Moon God, who had 3 daughters who were viewed as intercessors for the people into Allah. Their names were Al-at, Al-uzza, and Al-Manat, which were three goddesses; the first two daughters of Allah had names which were feminine forms of Allah. Hubal was the chief God of the Kaaba among the other 360 deities. Hubal was the chief God of the Kaaba among the other 360 deities. Hubal was a statue likeness of a man whose body was made of red precious stones whose arms were made of gold. (Reference: "Islam" by George Braswell Jr.)


Do you wish for me to discuss your remaining erroneous statements, this_is_bullshit? Feel free to let me know if you do.

[freakazoid]

If the innocent lives that have been abruptly terminated were not considered sacred by those heartless murderers, who cares what is SACRED to those killers?

And what kind of mothers who are proud to raise children whose life's objective is to blowup innocent people? They must be the lowest kind of bitches.

I seriously doubt that I could have said it better! Right on!

[this_is_bullshit]

this_is_bullshit, you are EXTREMELY un-informed and your screen name is appropriate.

Case in point, your comment of...

"did you know that the name "Allah" is not actually a name? It is the word "God" in Arabic..."


Wrong. Completely wrong. The name "allah" was a common name used for a minor and localized pagan "moon god" of fertility in the time of the "prophet mohammed." It was picked up and used by this so-called "prophet mohammed" as a convenent title for a god of the religion he was founding. Please do your research better before posting your comments. Historians, linguists, and archeologists have dug into this question for over a century. Various archeological digs in Arabia and throughout the Middle East have uncovered the answer to the word "allah" ...islam is no more than a modern version of the ancient fertility religion of this moon god. Once this is grasped, the rise and history of islam becomes clearer even to the ignorant such as yourself.

The Arab conquests of the time were made possible because the central powers in the Middle East had exhausted themselves in wars against each other. They were not able to fight off wave after wave of Arab armies which subdued entire nations with merciless slaughter, rape and plunder.


Further
Reference...


According to the Encyclopedia of Religion, before Islam the Arabs recognized many gods and goddesses, each tribe had their own deity. There were also nature deities. Allah was a fertility god of the local Quarish tribe, which was Mohammed's tribe before he invented Islam to lead his people out of their polytheism. Allah was then known as the Moon God, who had 3 daughters who were viewed as intercessors for the people into Allah. Their names were Al-at, Al-uzza, and Al-Manat, which were three goddesses; the first two daughters of Allah had names which were feminine forms of Allah. Hubal was the chief God of the Kaaba among the other 360 deities. Hubal was the chief God of the Kaaba among the other 360 deities. Hubal was a statue likeness of a man whose body was made of red precious stones whose arms were made of gold. (Reference: "Islam" by George Braswell Jr.)


Do you wish for me to discuss your remaining erroneous statements, this_is_bullshit? Feel free to let me know if you do.


Allah in Arabic, is translated to God in English, truly it is, may it have been the name of a deity prior to finding God, it is the word they use for God over there, so stfu.

I study Islam & you are a disgrace to researchers out there, you copied your text pretty much word for word from a Google search, it is called plagurism (sp?) next time, do the research from many & base your own opinion off it.

Read the Holy Qu'Ran, but I ask you, before you do, let go of your anger & change your reason for reading from spite to eagerness to learn, then you won't perceive things as you wish to see them, for spiteful reasons, but instead you may find a truth of your own.

Islam, from the Book, The Holy Qu'Ran is pretty darn close to the Jewish book (in storyline), the Tora, & that, is pretty darn close to the Old Testament.

You see, you researched the background of the word Allah, you didn't research the true meaning of it, which is God. The people had a word for God prior to Islam, which was Allah, does it not make sense to use the same "word" to say God? It's not a name in Islam, it is a word in Arabic to say God.

Is any of this making sense to you? BTW is this the only thing you choose to retaliate with a flame on me for? Could you not be bothered to do a few more Google searches to try to flame me? Too much work is it? Listen kid, I'm sorry you are misinformed, I am sorry you worship media & I am sorry you couldn't come up with a better flame.

However, I did say, in my previous post, that you would come back right away & flame me for something. Wasn't I correct? Indeed I was, about something trivial, which there can be many interpretations of, which you chose the American view, why not take a look at language, religion & belief?

Mohammed had to bring the word to his people, so the word he knew to describe God, was Allah, so it became the common reference. Really, can I make this any clearer for you?

I assume you just want to argue & try to have a flame fest, & if that is true, you won't even be reading this last paragraph, unless looking for more fuel to flame with, you most likely will pick my post apart piece by piece & choose to Google some inane fact to try to prove your point, when really you are just making yourself out to be just as bad as the people you hate.

Do you honestly think that all Muslims are terrorists? Do you know how many people in Mosques in America cried for the losses of American lives on 9/11? Have you bothered even talking to someone from an American Islamic background? I don't think you have, find your nearest Mosque, & print out these posts, then take them with you & ask their opinions. You will be asked to leave. True Islamic people don't condone violence, much like a Christian.

Stop reading so deep into the media as factual stories. They are far from the truth in most cases, they just show negativity cuz it sells. Start actually going out & talking to the people that know what this is about, you will learn more than you think you know, & it will shock you, Muslims aren't bad people, the terrorists, they just manipulate the strong believing weak minded & call it Islam, when that cannot be farther from the truth.

P.S. You said, "The Arab conquests of the time were made possible because the central powers in the Middle East had exhausted themselves in wars against each other. They were not able to fight off wave after wave of Arab armies which subdued entire nations with merciless slaughter, rape and plunder." Now, might I once again reference the Crusades? In the name of the Catholic church? Please, do not judge a nation's or a religion's past to decide it's future, or all of Christianity would bear a heavy burden for some of the most bloody wars in history.

[Korono]

If the innocent lives that have been abruptly terminated were not considered sacred by those heartless murderers, who cares what is SACRED to those killers?

I wasn't defending them. I was simply stating motivation.


The name "allah" was a common name used for a minor and localized pagan "moon god" of fertility in the time of the "prophet mohammed."

Actually, it became adapted to mean God. Just like Elohim and Jaweh for the Jews and, in turn, Christians. Language evolves, you know.

[freakazoid]

I wasn't defending them. I was simply stating motivation.



Actually, it became adapted to mean God. Just like Elohim and Jaweh for the Jews and, in turn, Christians. Language evolves, you know.

Correct. It has become a word meaning "god" in popular modern language, but was not so in the time of mohammad. this_is_bullshit was wrong.

[freakazoid]

RE: "Allah in Arabic, is translated to God in English, truly it is, may it have been the name of a deity prior to finding God, it is the word they use for God over there, so stfu."

See my post just above.

[this_is_bullshit]

RE: "Allah in Arabic, is translated to God in English, truly it is, may it have been the name of a deity prior to finding God, it is the word they use for God over there, so stfu."

See my post just above.


Again, he had to use a word that the people could understand, as there was no real word for "God" then. Geeez.

[freakazoid]

Again, he had to use a word that the people could understand, as there was no real word for "God" then. Geeez.

What is your point? :confused:

[this_is_bullshit]

What is your point? :confused:


My point is, as in my original posting of this, Allah may have been the "name" of a pagan deity, so, in the Arabic language, IIRC, they didn't have a word for God, so they used one that the people could understand & it was adopted as such. Again, your point about the people being Pagan's was to flame me for saying that Allah, in Arabic, translates to God, your point sir, is both null, & void, as it is simply word history, nothing more.

That sir, is my point.

My origianl point, since you flamed away from that, is the fact that you call it Muslim outrage, all these acts of terrorism, and I merely needed to show you that Muslims i.e. Islamic folk, are not to blame, but the terrorists & the media puch the blame upon them.

The terrorists used the devout, yet easily manipulated, people to commit these acts of so-called matyrdom, these poor souls were to easily deceived, & they obviously did not know their own religion well enough, as they went against the major laws, & committed murder.

Again, my final point was & still is, quit blaming it on the Muslims, it is terrorism, Islam, TRUE Islam, does not condone this type of behavior, as a matter of fact, it is downright forbidden.

[Korono]

I don't believe that he was blaming all Muslims. I think that he was simply using Muslim as a general term for Muslim terrorists. Perhaps he should be more clear, yes, but there is no reason to become so hostile over a mere misunderstandsing.

Also, Islamic law commands Muslims to defend their religion by any means necessary, including violent force. One way for them to have been tricked is by being convinced that by killing people offensively they are, in fact, defending their nation. It may not be that they do not understand their religion, simply that they misunderstand the extent of the meaning of this law.

[freakazoid]

My point is, as in my original posting of this, Allah may have been the "name" of a pagan deity, so, in the Arabic language, IIRC, they didn't have a word for God, so they used one that the people could understand & it was adopted as such. Again, your point about the people being Pagan's was to flame me for saying that Allah, in Arabic, translates to God, your point sir, is both null, & void, as it is simply word history, nothing more.

That sir, is my point.

My origianl point, since you flamed away from that, is the fact that you call it Muslim outrage, all these acts of terrorism, and I merely needed to show you that Muslims i.e. Islamic folk, are not to blame, but the terrorists & the media puch the blame upon them.

The terrorists used the devout, yet easily manipulated, people to commit these acts of so-called matyrdom, these poor souls were to easily deceived, & they obviously did not know their own religion well enough, as they went against the major laws, & committed murder.

Again, my final point was & still is, quit blaming it on the Muslims, it is terrorism, Islam, TRUE Islam, does not condone this type of behavior, as a matter of fact, it is downright forbidden.

RE: "...Allah, in Arabic, translates to God..."

As I said; only in a "popular sense," after mohammad decided to use it for the name of his "god" for the religion he was organizing. Not in the proper historic sense where allah was a minor pagan deity in a very local area. If I were to start a religion, I could choose any name for my "god" I want. How about "Bozo?" Sounds good to me. The new name of "god" for my new religion of "hambugerists" shall be "Bozo," now, the word "Bozo" means "god" for all hambugerists terrorists. And is to be excepted as such, all who disagree are infidels! Death to the infidel pigs!! ... LOL...

But who cares, mohammad was little more than a violent religious nut and known child molester.

[this_is_bullshit]

I don't believe that he was blaming all Muslims. I think that he was simply using Muslim as a general term for Muslim terrorists. Perhaps he should be more clear, yes, but there is no reason to become so hostile over a mere misunderstandsing.

Also, Islamic law commands Muslims to defend their religion by any means necessary, including violent force. One way for them to have been tricked is by being convinced that by killing people offensively they are, in fact, defending their nation. It may not be that they do not understand their religion, simply that they misunderstand the extent of the meaning of this law.


Sorry, you're wrong. No, that is a tribal deal there, it has nothing to do with actual Islam, why do people take such stock in propoganda I ask? Why?

[this_is_bullshit]

RE: "...Allah, in Arabic, translates to God..."

As I said; only in a "popular sense," after mohammad decided to use it for the name of his "god" for the religion he was organizing. Not in the proper historic sense where allah was a minor pagan deity in a very local area. If I were to start a religion, I could choose any name for my "god" I want. How about "Bozo?" Sounds good to me. The new name of "god" for my new religion of "hambugerists" shall be "Bozo," now, the word "Bozo" means "god" for all hambugerists terrorists. And is to be excepted as such, all who disagree are infidels! Death to the infidel pigs!! ... LOL...

But who cares, mohammad was little more than a violent religious nut and known child molester.

Prove that last statement, & AGAIN you frickin tard bucket, Allah was chosen as a WORD for God, as they did NOT HAVE ONE. Much like you & a brain, it just isn't there!

Finally, Mohammed was not a child molester any more than King James was! (look that one up, he had the Bible re-written!) P.S. Prior to Islam, most Tribes were violent, it is the human way.

[STRESSED.OUT]

Wow!!!!! Im Really Impressed By Some Of The Comments I That Were Made. Islam Is Like Any Other Religion. There Are Extremist In Everything. Look At The Catholics The Priest Were Raping And Basically Fucking Little Boys. Isnt That As Bad A Sucide Bombing. Why Does This Country Always Have To Ccatogorize Everything. Why Cant Things Be Just The Way There Are. Death Is Real On Time And Constant. This World Is Tainted And A Cant Help But Think That All Of This Ocnfusion That We Are Currently Feeling, Will Soon Come To An End. One Way Or Another.


Kind Regards,
Stressed Out

[STRESSED.OUT]

I Know Im New To The Game , However Freakazoid Is Freaking Me Out. Would Not Want To Pass Him In A Dark Alley.



Kind Regards,
Stressed Out.

[this_is_bullshit]

Wow!!!!! Im Really Impressed By Some Of The Comments I That Were Made. Islam Is Like Any Other Religion. There Are Extremist In Everything. Look At The Catholics The Priest Were Raping And Basically Fucking Little Boys. Isnt That As Bad A Sucide Bombing. Why Does This Country Always Have To Ccatogorize Everything. Why Cant Things Be Just The Way There Are. Death Is Real On Time And Constant. This World Is Tainted And A Cant Help But Think That All Of This Ocnfusion That We Are Currently Feeling, Will Soon Come To An End. One Way Or Another.


Kind Regards,
Stressed Out


Amen! Thank you! Finally, someone that understands!

Also, yer next post, LOL! Amen to that brother!

[Korono]

Sorry, you're wrong. No, that is a tribal deal there, it has nothing to do with actual Islam, why do people take such stock in propoganda I ask? Why?

[2.178]...retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain... [2.179] ...there is life for you in retaliation, O men of understanding, that you may guard yourselves.

[2.190] ...fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you...[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

[8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand. [8.66] ...if there are a hundred patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a thousand they shall overcome two thousand by Allah's permission... [8.67] It is not fit for a prophet that he should take captives unless he has fought and triumphed in the land; you desire the frail goods [i.e., ransom money] of this world... [8.68] ...ransom... [8.69] Eat then of the lawful and good which you have acquired in war ...[8.70] O Prophet! say to those of the captives who are in your hands: If Allah knows anything good in your hearts, He will give to you better than that which has been taken away from you ...[8.71] Yusuf Ali: But if they have treacherous designs against thee...He given power over them...[8.72] Yusuf Ali: Those who ...fought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of God...[8.73] Yusuf Ali: The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief. [8.74] Yusuf Ali:...fight for the Faith...[8.75] Yusuf Ali: ...fight for the Faith...

It goes on like this for 164 passages.

Muslims believe in defending their nation, violently if necessary.

Huh...look at what actual research bring you.

[this_is_bullshit]

Well, if you take the actual Old Testament literally, you would be attempting to sacrifice in the name of God, much like what you read here. Old vs New Testament argument. Do not forget, The Bible, Tora & Qu'ran are very much alike.

When you research, make sure you take time to learn about what you are researching, do not just copy n paste.

[Korono]

Before I continue I would like to say that I have extensively researched the Judeo-Christian religions for many years.

While the Hebrew Bible does mention horrid and violent acts, it does not necessarilly encourage them, and the little bit that it does is explained very specifically; i.e. and eye for an eye, as written in the Mosaic Law. The Christian Bible, excluding the Old Testament, encourages no violence at all. Even though the Muslims have been enormously influenced by Christians and Jews, they hold more extreme beliefs in the defense of their faith. Christians and Jews would die for their God. Muslims would kill for it.

[willfuckyourmind]

Freakazoid...
you know better
than to explain
yourself.


If some bullshitter
enjoys his bullshit,
there is no point
of sharing your research
into the history of religion.


While in the priesthood,
as I reflected on THE GOD
and my humanity,
I did some research.
Which is the reason
I left the priesthood.


You know about
The Dead Sea Scrolls.
It exposes the rebel priest
Jesus Fucking H Christ
as the ultimate bullshitter
of twenty centuries past.


As for the sicko warmonger Mohammad
who murdered millions of Muslims
because they refused Islam...
who will argure with history?


Sunday school, mass?
The false sabbath
is not bullshit.


Ignorance
is not bullshit either.


Wise men learn more from fools
than fools from the wise.


You are good
at what you do, freakazoid.
And very patient.

[freakazoid]

I Know Im New To The Game , However Freakazoid Is Freaking Me Out. Would Not Want To Pass Him In A Dark Alley.

Why, do you bite? :D

[freakazoid]

Sorry, you're wrong. No, that is a tribal deal there, it has nothing to do with actual Islam, why do people take such stock in propoganda I ask? Why?

I refuse to argue with a dude who's pants are down.

[mikesg]

I heard Mohammed loved to have butt sex forced upon him.

[Nobody]

[2.178]...retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain... [2.179] ...there is life for you in retaliation, O men of understanding, that you may guard yourselves.

[2.190] ...fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you...[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

[8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand. [8.66] ...if there are a hundred patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a thousand they shall overcome two thousand by Allah's permission... [8.67] It is not fit for a prophet that he should take captives unless he has fought and triumphed in the land; you desire the frail goods [i.e., ransom money] of this world... [8.68] ...ransom... [8.69] Eat then of the lawful and good which you have acquired in war ...[8.70] O Prophet! say to those of the captives who are in your hands: If Allah knows anything good in your hearts, He will give to you better than that which has been taken away from you ...[8.71] Yusuf Ali: But if they have treacherous designs against thee...He given power over them...[8.72] Yusuf Ali: Those who ...fought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of God...[8.73] Yusuf Ali: The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief. [8.74] Yusuf Ali:...fight for the Faith...[8.75] Yusuf Ali: ...fight for the Faith...

It goes on like this for 164 passages.

Muslims believe in defending their nation, violently if necessary.

Huh...look at what actual research bring you.
I have researched this, and what I've found is, you can't go through life, preaching to anybody, while wearing a portapotty on your head, or is that a turban? Oh well, it means the same. There are a lot of proctologist out there, that may be willing to help you find your head!

[freakazoid]

I heard Mohammed loved to have butt sex forced upon him.

From little boys, too!! :eek: :D:D:D

[Nobody]

From little boys, too!! :eek: :D:D:D
Yes! I've head its Michael Jackson syndrom. It makes the're pud look big in the hands of a 9 year old.

[Nobody]

My point is, as in my original posting of this, Allah may have been the "name" of a pagan deity, so, in the Arabic language, IIRC, they didn't have a word for God, so they used one that the people could understand & it was adopted as such. Again, your point about the people being Pagan's was to flame me for saying that Allah, in Arabic, translates to God, your point sir, is both null, & void, as it is simply word history, nothing more.

That sir, is my point.

My origianl point, since you flamed away from that, is the fact that you call it Muslim outrage, all these acts of terrorism, and I merely needed to show you that Muslims i.e. Islamic folk, are not to blame, but the terrorists & the media puch the blame upon them.

The terrorists used the devout, yet easily manipulated, people to commit these acts of so-called matyrdom, these poor souls were to easily deceived, & they obviously did not know their own religion well enough, as they went against the major laws, & committed murder.

Again, my final point was & still is, quit blaming it on the Muslims, it is terrorism, Islam, TRUE Islam, does not condone this type of behavior, as a matter of fact, it is downright forbidden.
Muslem are you? My bible does not mention allah, (and you noticed I put it in small cased ketters) as being GOD almighty. Go fuck yourself, and raise your own BASTARDS!

[hkdbadreligion]

Muslem are you? My bible does not mention allah, (and you noticed I put it in small cased ketters) as being GOD almighty. Go fuck yourself, and raise your own BASTARDS!

Prove to me that your god is real.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Prove to me that your god is real.

Prove to us that yours is. If you can't, then you should not be asking him to. Instead you should be looking at the teachings of each religion, and try to determine from that which you can believe moreso.

[hkdbadreligion]

Are you saying that I must have some god to believe in? And if I don't?

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Are you saying that I must have some god to believe in? And if I don't?


You were replying to the muslim comment, I could only assume that you knew that your god was real, but were demanding that we provide proof of ours.

[hkdbadreligion]

I'm asking for proof of any.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

I'm asking for proof of any.


In that case, why don't you instead prove that there is none? It's just as hard to do, arguably harder because there IS a God.

[Ticorey]

Yer killin' me.:D

[hkdbadreligion]

You provide yours then I'll provide mine.

[Ticorey]

Having had the illuminating experience of working with Muslims for just over 20 years, not consistently but a number of "close" collusions, I found they can never be trusted to tell the truth, act ethically in business, nor can you expect not to be stabbed in the back.
The term "Americans" refers to US citizens and does not include the citizens of the other 27 countries (more or less a a country, depending on the micro-political activity) in America. Maybe you all have seen the following:

The Impossibility of Coexistence of Judeo-Christian and Muslim Societies

The Impossibility of Coexistence of Judeo-Christian and Muslim Societies
Bigoted or not...just read, think and draw your own conclusions.
· Can Muslims be Good Americans?
· Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen? Consider the following:
1. Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
2. Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).
3. Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
4. Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians. Jews or Hindus
5. Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of the U. S. of America, the great Satan.
6. Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wives when any of them disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
7. Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
8. Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
9. Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression.
10. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is Theocratic, Theosophical, dictatorial or autocratic.
11. Spiritually, no, because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.


Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish...it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country

Pass it on. The war is bigger than we know.

This is merely and introduction to the many reasons one can NEVER trust a practicing muslim. Lying to Jews and Christians is a matter of course and a command in the Quran. There is so much more, little time to bring it to the attention of naïve US citizens.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

You provide yours then I'll provide mine.

As I said, don't make a challenge to someone if you can't first fulfill its obligations yourself. It proves that you could only be more wrong than your opponant.

[beelzebub]

As I said, don't make a challenge to someone if you can't first fulfill its obligations yourself. It proves that you could only be more wrong than your opponant.

It's not proof. It alludes. There is a difference.

[hkdbadreligion]

I never said there was no god. I just asked for you to prove there is one.

The muslim thing is about muslims. What about arabs who arent religious?

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

I never said there was no god. I just asked for you to prove there is one.

The muslim thing is about muslims. What about arabs who arent religious?

Well I honestly can't prove it at all. Noone has been able to do this. If they had then eventually everyone would know it and there would be next to noone questioning it. It's been argued that belief requires no proof, but I feel that's more of a dodge than anything. Ask yourself this, do you know exactly how the entire universe works? Is it possible for a god to exist? Would your life be any better if you rejected this possibility? And, if it is possible for God to exist, then would you be willing to risk an eternity being tortured just because you did not accept God while you were alive?

[hkdbadreligion]

Religion is corrupt. I just dont believe that I can truely believe.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Religion is corrupt. I just dont believe that I can truely believe.

So don't follow any one religion, I can't believe that any of them has it perfectly right anyways. Just look inside yourself and ask what it is that God wants of you. Make sure to follow through.

[beelzebub]

So don't follow any one religion, I can't believe that any of them has it perfectly right anyways. Just look inside yourself and ask what it is that God wants of you. Make sure to follow through.

Yeah! But even better Dont follow ANY religon. Just look inside yourself and ask what it is that you want for yourself. What do you want with your life.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Yeah! But even better Dont follow ANY religon. Just look inside yourself and ask what it is that you want for yourself. What do you want with your life.

No, that would lead to total chaos. Those of us who can reason can figure out what God would want of us and follow through. Others ought to just follow some sort of religion to a lesser extent.

[hkdbadreligion]

I believe everyone has some kind of a conscience and that is what they should follow. Not any book or leader. Religion is unneccissary and we should instead follow our own conscience. But few do.

[Paisleyspeaker]

You guys!?!:eek:

To blame a faith for the acts of it's followers is silly. Was Christianity responsible for Tim McVeigh? or Eric Rudolph? And where was the Christian outrage?
Especially when the topic is Islam, there are people from all over the world that honor Allah and become 'the people of God', but the acts you are so bent over were commitied for the most part by Arabs, why not just comdemn the ethnic group? It would be more accurate. And why stop there, weren't most of the 9/11 hyjackers Saudi, why not condemn Saudi Arabia , after all many of the other incidents on your list were also either in Saudi Arabia or commited by Saudis. And while your at it how about holding our goverment up for their endless forgivness for the Saudis. It's all about the oil stupid!

[Nobody]

I have researched this, and what I've found is, you can't go through life, preaching to anybody, while wearing a portapotty on your head, or is that a turban? Oh well, it means the same. There are a lot of proctologist out there, that may be willing to help you find your head!
Korono; I owe you an opology. You were obvisouly raised with YOUR religious aspects, as I was with mine. To attack your comment with one sided mallace, was un called for , and needed to be adressed. It's no wonder, the rest of the world hates us! there are two things that speak truth, one is "truth of the moment", the other is shame. The first is 'Truth " as it is presented ,is under the influence, of usually something, other than sound mind. The other is when you realise you were wrong. For this, I offer to you KORONO, my oppoligy. I am so sorry to have belittled you in a forum ,such as this. I'm sorry!

[Nobody]

Muslem are you? My bible does not mention allah, (and you noticed I put it in small cased ketters) as being GOD almighty. Go fuck yourself, and raise your own BASTARDS!
To " this - is - bullshit': My ignorant statement to you , about you being Muslim, was entirely out of context. Whether or not you are Muslim, has nothing to do with the issues of the day. You were making a statement, that I eludeded to recognise as being factual, or opinion. the fact remains, the frame of mind I was in, is no excuse for voicing my opinion , in the fasion I did. My opologies to you This - is - bullshit.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

It seems that Nobody has all of a sudden found God, and is trying to repent at the last second....maybe he realizes that my prophesy is true and the end is comming tomorrow!


REPENT!!!

[Nobody]

It seems that Nobody has all of a sudden found God, and is trying to repent at the last second....maybe he realizes that my prophesy is true and the end is comming tomorrow!


REPENT!!!
No! I already know whats going on with me. I cannot ,however, speak for you or anyone else. But for your 'prophesy', I don't think I would worry too much, unless the U.S., turns its back on Isreal while you sleep. That has to happen before the next prophesy occurs.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

No! I already know whats going on with me. I cannot ,however, speak for you or anyone else. But for your 'prophesy', I don't think I would worry too much, unless the U.S., turns its back on Isreal while you sleep. That has to happen before the next prophesy occurs.


Nope, the nukes are flying tonight. I don't know what's going on with you, so I'm just making the obvious assumption. :D

[freakazoid]

Prove to me that your god is real.

Prove he is not.

[General Septem]

Freakazoid

You are really crazy: "The rewards of Islam" is a very broad topic to post such a narrow minded post.

While I could give a shit less about any religon I certanly would have not titled this sting that way because I am concerned about others.
You wouldn't have given a shit if it had been Catholicism.

[Quentin_11C]

I agree totally with that "no Muslim outrage" thing, so I thought I would add a bit of stuff i ran across awhile back...

http://www.infidels.org/misc/humor/shit_list.html

[freakazoid]

If the innocent lives that have been abruptly terminated were not considered sacred by those heartless murderers, who cares what is SACRED to those killers?

And what kind of mothers who are proud to raise children whose life's objective is to blowup innocent people? They must be the lowest kind of bitches.

Well said! Right on! :):):)

[joshua]

"moon god" of fertility in the time of the "prophet mohammed." It was picked up and used by this so-called "prophet mohammed" as a convenent title for a god of the religion he was founding. Please do your research better before posting your comments.


this is the biggest load of crap ive ever heard ...im offended actually of what a fucking ignorant person would say about my religion.
first ive got to say to the {muslim outrage thing} that all religious leaders in lebanon condemend these actionsagisnt burning the embassies.im not concerned with radicals...and to say that all muslims support such horrific actions which ousama bin bitch did thats totally worng,,,and to the moon god bullshit ,u really are creative and this assfucker u made reference from could be a bush crusader cocksucker,,neverthelss ur wonderfull massacare maker president is such a blessing ,,u cant be blamed...puhhh

[joshua]

fuck u all ,,,,im getting outve here

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

...,,neverthelss ur wonderfull massacare maker president is such a blessing ,,u cant be blamed...puhhh


Are you saying that immediately after proclaiming us for being dumbasses about misconceptions with your people, you would blame all Americans for the acts of our government? That really is the epitomy of hipocricism. I disagree with much of what the government is doing, but I cannot do anything about it myself.

Now if you think that we're misinformed about your religion you could attempt to rationally inform us of the truth rather than getting indignant and thus only giving us other reasons to scoff at your beliefs.

[joshua]

im sorry ,,,but after reading a few replies i just cant aprehend that SUCH an open minded americans say that ,,,i didnt mean to offend anyone ,,but truly extremists and radicals of my religion are all u can think off...when someone say im a muslim they say where is the bomb,,this is really a fucked up sosciety...we go to nightclubs we get drunk ,like strippers,fuck and fuck at least here in lebanon where i live ,,if u suggest about saudi arabia and the far east arab countries except united emirates ,,they really have issues ,,but nevertheless what a guy like me can do to change ???:(

[General Septem]

Though I don't agree with Islam, I'm forced to agree that all this talk about "LOL MUSLIMS BAMB PPL" is kind of unintelligent at best. In fact it may just be government propaganda. Before you know it, all Muslims will be considered terrorists by the US Government. And after that, it's Christians next. There's enough to say about Islam without resorting to falicies like "LOL MUSLIMS BAMB PPL".

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

im sorry ,,,but after reading a few replies i just cant aprehend that SUCH an open minded americans say that


You have to remember that all we have to go off of here is the news. The news shows what sells and that happens to be bad karma about muslims in your case. If you want a better image in the US you need to make a huge news story about it. It's always much more difficult to make the news with a positive story than it is with a negative one.

[REPTILE]

Muslims are our brothers the way I see it. They're just normal people. Like this_is_bullshit said, the ppl that kill all those innocents and wish others all those bads things aren't even Muslims to begin with.

(Quote: Brains_B_O - "The news shows what sells and that happens to be bad karma about muslims in your case. If you want a better image in the US you need to make a huge news story about it. It's always much more difficult to make the news with a positive story than it is with a negative one.")

Cannot agree with you more. The media will display anything thats negative, and rarely anything positive.

[bchm]

OK - now that I've blow off my head of STEAM off over all of the anguish and emotional suffering that I’ve been through since 9/11 - I can hopefully settle into a more constructive approach to this issue. Let me say for the record that I don't hate Muslims! As a Christian - I am not supposed to hate anyone. As Christians, we are taught to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ - and He teaches us to love our fellow man - even our enemies! What an incredible ideology! That is a very hard ideology to live up to and though I’ve slipped and fallen, I have gotten back up determined to walk in the path of Jesus. Forgive me Jesus, for the sentiments of hatred that I have expressed against my Muslim brothers – for in my heart I truly know that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.

I’m sure that there are many, many peace-loving Muslims in the world who don’t subscribe to the hate dogma laid down by bin Laden and his crew – but one really has to wonder where in heck are all of the good Muslims? Why have we not heard from them? Where is there collective and massive condemnation of the Islamic extremists? Why do they not get equal time on Al-Jassir TV (pardon me if I misspelled that – but you know exactly who I’ve referring to) and openly state their case against all of the radical extremists? Why are they not telling the rest of the Muslim world that the radical extremist clerics are all FRAUDS and LIARS – and that they are NOT genuine spokesmen for Islam? The silence of the good Muslims is not only deafening, but even worse, it sends out the wrong message to the rest of the world that through all of their silence, they are quietly condoning the atrocities that are being carried out by the radicals and their followers. It is never too late to speak up and now more than ever, it is absolutely imperative that the good Muslims of the world come forward – en masse - to openly renounce Osama bin Laden and every single one of his followers – including all of the radical clerics and all of the Muslim extremists. They also need to make it abundantly clear to all would be suicide bombers that it is absolutely not the will of God that they sacrifice their own lives in the process of massacring other people for a cause that is not holy or justified in any way shape or form. They need to be told that they are being fed LIES by radicals who are not real Muslims but only would-be Muslims living under their own set of false rules and teachings. The would-be suicide bombers also must clearly be told, by all of the good Muslims of the world, that they will never go to heaven for carrying out acts of suicide bombing. They must come to know that there are absolutely no Heavenly rewards for destroying the body that God gave to them and killing others in the process as well.

In order for Islam to survive as a legitimate faith, it is absolutely imperative for the good Muslims of the world to come forward and unite with one another – and to speak out loudly in a powerful collective voice – and to tell the world that none of the men who hijacked the planes on 9/11 have made it to heaven – and that for their horrible acts, they may never enter into Heaven for all eternity. They must also tell the world that Osama bin Laden is a FRAUD as well as all of the clerics who follow his false teachings. They must clearly tell the world that Osama bin Laden and all of the radical clerics are not Muslims and that their teachings are a violation of the teachings of Islam. A large-scale wholesale condemnation by all of the good Muslims of the world of the radical Muslim extremists is absolutely imperative and long overdue. In my heart, I have to believe that the good Muslims in the world far outnumber the bad Muslims. It is already well past the time for the good Muslims to come forward and to speak their conscience to the world Loud and Clear. But at the same time, it is never too late. I firmly believe that the wholesale condemnation by the good Muslims of the world of suicide bombing will do far more to eliminate these horrible events than all of the bullets and bombs fired by the military forces fighting to counter terrorism all around the world. This is yet another situation where the pen – and the voice can be far mightier than the sword. And if all of the good Muslims of the world will come forward and condemn the radical extremists Muslims and all of their teachings and directives, then military actions around the world could be dramatically scaled back – saving thousands of lives and billions of dollars. And more importantly, there will be less hatred in the world for Muslims and more tolerance and acceptance of them. The bad Muslims of the world have created the problem and it is up to the good Muslims of the world to take the upper hand to resolve the problem and until that happens, there will unfortunately be more and more hatred expressed against Muslims. I am guilty of such hatred, but that hatred comes out of the losses that I have suffered because of the radical Muslims. As a Christian, I apologize to all Muslims for my previous posts on this forum and ask your understanding and forgiveness. And I also ask God to forgive me as well. I resign myself to following the teachings of Jesus Christ – for after meditation following my last post, it is the will of Jesus Christ that directed me to write this follow up letter. I want to wish peace, love and happiness to all of my brothers and sisters of the world – from every race, creed and color – from every nation, country, state, city and neighborhood all across the globe – I want all of you to know that I love each and every one of you - the good as well as the bad – I love all of you as brothers and sisters in Christ and I will pray for all of you. Let us not forget that each and every one of us will only be here on earth for a relatively short time, and that God is waiting for our return. Let us all vow here in this life never to follow the teachings of those who teach hatred but rather, to follow the leadership of those who teach LOVE.

[General Septem]

Are you going to just paste that reply all over the forum? O_o