Politics=BULLSHIT

[kaia]

Enough said...

[Beavis]

Yeah...lol

[I am Normal! Hahahaha!]

I agree politics is bullshit but does anyone understand politics??

[silvery moon]

Politicians don't even understand politics ^.^

[I am Normal! Hahahaha!]

I fully agree with the last comment!!!!:D

[Hayley719]

cnn is full of lies

[I am Normal! Hahahaha!]

WHATEVER YOU SAY HAYLEY!:mad:

[Mourningstar]

Politics is the method used by minority in power to control the majority who are not in power. In our case (Canada and the USA, along with Great Britain and others) the particular weapon is representational democracy. They use representation, because if the people who represent us can be controlled then the rest of the population becomes irrelevant and can then be safely ignored.

Democracy is useful because it convinces us that we actually have a say and a voice and thus convinces us to keep our mouthes shut (because we think that we are somehow responsible for the mess that politicians make).

Socialism and Communism are useful for politicians attempting to overthrow a dictatorship or a Monarchy. The idea that the working poor are more moral, noble or worthy than the ruling class is appealling to people in these situations and these methods of politics are therefore used by rebels in monarch driven (or dictator driven) countries to gain power.

The danger of Socialism and Communism from the point of view of politicians is that politicians generally have a much more difficult time convincing the majority to let them stay in power afterward, unless they resort to brute force. This is a temporary measure however, which is why the semblance of democracy is becoming popular as a style of government.

If people think they chose the leader, they are less likely to rebel. It's that simple.

[Isoviths]

You said than Communism is morarhy (you should read some more for smt before accuse it)!!! In USA today your "good" and "pacifist" president has declare war at Afghanistan and Iraq.... He is bullshiting you ALL that is for the good of America and all the world and that his wars are again terrorism...:confused: :confused:

The real reason is than America and its allies wants the oil of the Middle East and hundret of American and European soldiers are killed every day for mr.Bush's and America oiconomic wars.....

You believe that you have democracy ? ? ? Becawse you vote every 5 years to elect a goverment? ? ? When your soldiers are killed in the middle east and Iraguian children and women are killed from Bombs and american bullets . . .
You believe that you are free when your freedon is bowdlerizated and when all of the american people is under supervision by your own goverment....

I am sorry for my poor english but i wanted to write these....

Visite these web sites to see what the American troops has done
www.dahrjamailiraq.com

[C-Dawg]

You said than Communism is morarhy (you should read some more for smt before accuse it)!!! In USA today your "good" and "pacifist" president has declare war at Afghanistan and Iraq.... He is bullshiting you ALL that is for the good of America and all the world and that his wars are again terrorism...:confused: :confused:

The real reason is than America and its allies wants the oil of the Middle East and hundret of American and European soldiers are killed every day for mr.Bush's and America oiconomic wars.....

You believe that you have democracy ? ? ? Becawse you vote every 5 years to elect a goverment? ? ? When your soldiers are killed in the middle east and Iraguian children and women are killed from Bombs and american bullets . . .
You believe that you are free when your freedon is bowdlerizated and when all of the american people is under supervision by your own goverment....

I am sorry for my poor english but i wanted to write these....

Visite these web sites to see what the American troops has done
www.dahrjamailiraq.com
first off its four years so probably you shouldn't be pissing on this guy for not doing research ok second i agree about the war in Iraq not being a war on terror but the war in Afghanistan is most deffinetly a war on terror though we are not spending enough time preventing terror and fighting it. As for us believing we have democracy we do becuase i quote directly from Dictionary.com
"1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community."
so yes since we do elect our representatives we are a democracy. but sadly yes i agree with you on the statement that is about us being under survalince it is bullshit and is against the constitution. so yes you are right on some levels but wrong on others and should do your research instead of bitching to others you ass hole of a hipocrit. also put your message into word or whatever you use and spell check it and grammar check it so you know if you have good english.

[Isoviths]

OK you have your own ideology and i have my own. But do not accuse a theory (as Marxism or Communism if you dont stydy it) but the People that appicate them such as Stalin or Kastro....

I am socialist and i learned to see the thinks as they are. . . My small country (Cyprus) suffers from the USA's and UK's foreigh policy. . . . . .36% of my country is under bondage and i can't go to my parents patrilineal homes . . .

"C-Dawg" you dont even know how is it when you go to Nicosia (capital city) and you see the wire netting and a huge wall and soldiers standing with handguns...You dont know how we feel when i see Famagusta (my parents town) as a ghost waiting it's habitants to come after 31 years....

You "C-Dawg" are sitting in the front of your TV and watch the News when other people are suffering from your "democratic" elected govrment foreigh policy (Iragui,Yygoslavian,Afganistan). . . . . . . .

At these site you can read about Marxism and communism "http://www.marxists.org/"

[Mourningstar]

Isoviths

I didn't say that monarchy is communism. I said that it serves the same function. I said that all governments serve the same purpose, to keep the elite in power and control the masses.

The argument that socialism, or communism was corrupted by individual leaders such as Stalin has been used for quite a while. The fact remains however, that every instance of socialism in the modern world has been fraught with this corruption, just as every other political governmental system has. I have to wonder- if every socialist country gets corrupted, doesn't that suggest that humans are unable to enact the ideas socialism professes.

It's all well and good to say that people should act a certain way, but what happens if they don't? What happens if people have never acted in the way that socialism requires them to?

My argument was not that we or the USA have Democracy, or even that the United States is a free country. My argument was that all governments exist to keep the elite in power. BY the way, I AM NOT AMERICAN, as you assumed. I don't believe that the USA is free personally. I think that it more free than some countries and less free than others.

Some of the these government help the people to a certain extent as a function of this, but the primary purpose of all government- including socialist ones is to give the elite power and help them maintain control over the people.

(Save of course for that mythical land that Marx describes where the state simply rots away- I note that this has never happened historically)

[Zzzzz]

The funny part right now democracy is a fashion. Every country what want to be hip call itself democratic. It's what happend with all post soviet countries. You don't go from centures of tyranny to democracy in one day. Have you heard about Turkmenia? The president of this country calles himself a muslim prophet. He rules this country for past 14 years, named a town after his title and truly count his country as democratic. That is some bullshit.

[chainar1]

Mourningstar - you effed that up there a little. a government is historically a type of social institution initiated to ensure the progress and, more importantly, protection of geographically ambient peoples. nevertheless, governments in modernity are products of years upon years of political, social and economic corruption. you were close though...real close...cheers.