Abortion....you dumb b!t#h!!! [Archive]

truth.357

03-21-2006, 07:59 PM

Listen people want to believe that society is all bright and shiny but the truth is that they don't want to admit the fact that they are stupid.Yes you all know who I am talking about....we have those couldn't pull out, it was in the moment, or even it broke.We are just lazy asses for thinkin a kid won't be a problem.Bullshit....you want 9 months of pain,but yet there goes the kid being a bastard or the mom being a slut, maybe even, the dad being abusive.If abortion will be a route to go by all means take it.Because I am not a Republican but I want to keep my paychecks.Think about what you want and then let your cock or legs come out.

Thats the TRUTH.357

hkdbadreligion

03-21-2006, 09:39 PM

...Agreed.

General Septem

03-24-2006, 12:29 AM

I congratulate you for explaining singlehandedly exactly why the world is so fucked up. You're absolutely right, we can do whatever the hell we want because we are stupid, and if that's the case, why don't we just nuke ourselves and save the planet the pain of having us live on it?

Carlos lopez

03-24-2006, 02:25 AM

call me whatever but dont call me a murder and the blood of the inocent wont be in my hands.

LordRuin

04-13-2006, 05:06 AM

Nobody

05-03-2006, 03:28 AM

I belive nature will maintain balance, at whatever cost. All the earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamies all indicate that nature is at war, with us. Then you have all the diseases, canser and so forth. With the inevitable climate changes approaching fast we have one hell of a ride before us. Yihah!!

I'm walking on the edge, push me!
Well maybe you should get ready for the nudge. Go find you a bible, with a copyrite date of 1975, or before. ( thats a safe assumption ). Read the book of REVELATIONS. That may help you with your controversy.

vulcan

05-06-2006, 08:05 AM

Hey you dumb fuck, What kind of balance is 4 billion people in one planet, Hello are you there? you are a dumb fuck bubble head.

vulcan

05-06-2006, 08:11 AM

So a fucking bitch goes to a bar get a guy and fuck the whole night and them she gets pregnant goes and flush her vigina and she is not a fucking bitch, and she is ready for the next weekend to go to the same bar and to do all over again. so you are the kind of people thinking in shit like if a "tree fell down in a forest and no one is around to hear the noise the noise never happened" give me a break you must be a stupid liberal I bet you whatever...

Listen people want to believe that society is all bright and shiny but the truth is that they don't want to admit the fact that they are stupid.Yes you all know who I am talking about....we have those couldn't pull out, it was in the moment, or even it broke.We are just lazy asses for thinkin a kid won't be a problem.Bullshit....you want 9 months of pain,but yet there goes the kid being a bastard or the mom being a slut, maybe even, the dad being abusive.If abortion will be a route to go by all means take it.Because I am not a Republican but I want to keep my paychecks.Think about what you want and then let your cock or legs come out.

Thats the TRUTH.357

beelzebub

05-06-2006, 08:43 AM

LordRuin

05-15-2006, 05:24 AM

Nobody

05-15-2006, 10:42 AM

Oh, You speak of the Book of Fools, mr. Nobody Ha! Fitting name! *giggles*
Anyhow, if you, by any chance, were offended, by me calling it, the bible that is, the Book of Fools, I do NOT apologize! Christians, Jews and Muslims may you all die! (as in religiuos groupings, nothing against jews as a people, and they are the lesser evil of the three, as they don't go around forcing their religion on others!)

I'm waking on the edge, push me!
Did you offend me? No. Call it what you will. Those are your words. Force my religious aspects on you? No. If you were locked in a room with a sermon brodcasting 24-7, Thats force. If you elect not to read my reference. Where is the force?

jacktheripper

05-19-2006, 03:54 AM

Hey you dumb fuck, What kind of balance is 4 billion people in one planet, Hello are you there? you are a dumb fuck bubble head.

he is the (@#$$$) ??

Um current world population is about 6.6 billion... Woops whos the "#@#$@$" now ?

But i do agree.. The world is WAY over populated.. Hopefully this birdflue will weed out a few million

If we are lucky (Truely lucky) it will take out 1/2 the world population and things will return to a better ballance world wide.. That and the AID's epademic should ... should make the next 10-50 years verry interesting.

Brains_Behind_Operation

05-19-2006, 05:04 AM

But i do agree.. The world is WAY over populated.. Hopefully this birdflue will weed out a few million

If we are lucky (Truely lucky) it will take out 1/2 the world population and things will return to a better ballance world wide.. That and the AID's epademic should ... should make the next 10-50 years verry interesting.

Yea, but then there won't be any land. Everyone's going to want their own burial plot and balance will never return because we're going to run out of places for both the living and the dead to reside. And them dead fuckers don't plan on moving from their land for at least the next eternity or two.

jacktheripper

05-21-2006, 12:30 AM

Yea, but then there won't be any land. Everyone's going to want their own burial plot and balance will never return because we're going to run out of places for both the living and the dead to reside. And them dead fuckers don't plan on moving from their land for at least the next eternity or two.

Hehe nice little fantisy world you are living in... If the birdflue happens.. There will be MASS graves.. And more then likely mass funeral piers. (IE burn the bodys)

After a big flue epidemic.. there will be PLENTY of room for people to move into

LordRuin

06-07-2006, 05:27 AM

I was speaking in general terms, I did not say that YOU tried to force me or anyone else, only that some, many DO try... THEY SHALL FAIL!!!

Paisleyspeaker

06-07-2006, 11:06 AM

So who did you knock-up truth357? That argument sounds a little personal. I grew up in the very Blue northeast, and used to be on the fence on this issue, but then I got pregnant myself. I started to get nausous right afer conception, so at seven weeks and 1 day I find myself at a hospital having an ultrasound, and with the push of a button the technician let me hear my daughters heartbeat. Seven weeks I heard that thump thump, and I was no longer on the fence. It didn't matter how many cells she was, she was alive. Self awareness doesn't come into it, you could start taking out some adults if that were the standard.

General Septem

06-07-2006, 12:43 PM

Self awareness doesn't come into it, you could start taking out some adults if that were the standard.

Exactly. Same with intelligence. Hell, your daughter at 7 weeks was probably already smarter than Bush :D

Brains_Behind_Operation

06-07-2006, 03:09 PM

Exactly. Same with intelligence. Hell, your daughter at 7 weeks was probably already smarter than Bush :D

That's setting the bar pretty low. I've got dead skin cells, and often leave turds that are smarter than Bush.... :rolleyes:

photojones

07-15-2006, 02:38 AM

in response to your responses:

you've called someone a "fucking faggot", and told people there's a place for them in hell.

guess what?

there's a place for you too, you intolerant little bitch. fuck you, and the fucking kids you should have aborted. i hope they turn out to be fucking faggots.

Nairbowsu

07-15-2006, 05:21 AM

General Septem

07-15-2006, 08:19 AM

hey you stupid pro life bastards. your christian? you read the bible. it says that the soul of the child does not enter its body UNTIL birth. thats right fuckers. UNTIL. when its born the breath life (or the soul) enters the body, you fucking retards, and by the way, your fucking retarded if you beleive in god anyway.

Um no, it doesn't say that. According to the Catholic Church, the soul is introduced at conception. Either way it doesn't really matter as pro-life is not just Christian.

TheAvenger

07-15-2006, 09:34 PM

Abortion is wrong. Killing, in general, is wrong. Killing ANY living being is WRONG.
Sometimes, we apparently forget that.
Live and let live.

beelzebub

07-17-2006, 05:43 PM

.....Killing ANY living being is WRONG. Sometimes, we apparently forget that.Live and let live.

You fucking salad and french fries are living beings.

DO THIS: Dont eat anything ever again.

DUMBASS

Brains_Behind_Operation

07-18-2006, 02:01 AM

Even though Bubba posted his position poorly, and misunderstood just what TheAvenger was getting at, I have to agree with him here. TheAvenger obviously meant any "living being" in the understanding that a "living being" was one with some form of brain. Still, I believe that animals are put here for us to eat. We are carnivorous by nature, that is the way things are intended to be. Still, killing any human is wrong, and the riding debate is when can we call it a human? I stand strong that this is at conception.

Brains_Behind_Operation

07-18-2006, 02:01 AM

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melanie

07-18-2006, 04:01 AM

agree. killing a human being is wrong. adoption is another option for mothers who don't want their babies..

marrm4453

08-04-2006, 08:48 PM

If you think abortion is the way to go, do what you want because you're grown and nobody wants to tell you what to do with your life. But just know this, if you're grown enough to open your legs,you're grown enough to take care of it. There's only one condition that i think abortion is o.k, only if you get raped, and you don't want to live with that memory. But other than that abortion shouldn't be an option.

General Septem

08-04-2006, 08:51 PM

Actually, rape is one of the most bullshit reasons to get an abortion there is. Actually, that's wrong, they're all equally bullshit.

marrm4453

08-04-2006, 09:04 PM

This option doesn't actually apply to everybody. because i know bitches that sleep around and then have abortions back to back. not everbody has the same issue. i know this one bitch, she was like,hhhhmmm, at lest two months pregnant the first time i saw her. like 3 months later, i saw her again, i said to her " what happened? because i thought she had a miscarriage. she told me she got rid of it, because she was tired of throwing up and being sick. in the back of mind i'm saying to myself," you fucking bitch".There's people out there that can't have kids,and you can and your'e throwing yours away.

freakazoid

08-06-2006, 02:40 PM

You fucking salad and french fries are living beings.

DO THIS: Dont eat anything ever again.

DUMBASS

beelzebub, I sometimes wonder when I am on the forum here, if you are capable of saying anything intelligent at all. I really do wonder.

beelzebub

08-07-2006, 11:06 AM

beelzebub, I sometimes wonder when I am on the forum here, if you are capable of saying anything intelligent at all. I really do wonder.

I was responding to
:Abortion is wrong. Killing, in general, is wrong. Killing ANY living being is WRONG.Sometimes, we apparently forget that. Live and let live."

Those items I cited were living beings. Are you so stupid you dont know that? I think that TheAdvenger needs to refine his/her statement and not be so broad.

Freak - fuck off!

Brains_Behind_Operation

08-07-2006, 07:52 PM

Sounds to me like he's saying that he is incapable of saying anything intelligent at all. :D

beelzebub

08-07-2006, 09:10 PM

Sounds to me like he's saying that he is incapable of saying anything intelligent at all. :D

You would know? You use supercilious arguments to validate your positions. You try to undermine you opponent’s position with insignificant characteristics to strengthen your case. Both tactics do not achieve your goals yet you laude them as accomplishments. Overall you are boorish and ignorant.

Ape-Shit

08-07-2006, 09:54 PM

I wounder, just how long would the lines be at the Abortion Clinic's, if Men were able to become pregnant? Nothing is never done without a reason and who's to say what is the reason?

Brains_Behind_Operation

08-07-2006, 10:12 PM

You would know? You use supercilious arguments to validate your positions. You try to undermine you opponent’s position with insignificant characteristics to strengthen your case. Both tactics do not achieve your goals yet you laude them as accomplishments. Overall you are boorish and ignorant.

You really like to keep on reaffirming the point! :D

beelzebub

08-08-2006, 08:14 AM

You really like to keep on reaffirming the point! :D

so do you.

Brains_Behind_Operation

08-08-2006, 11:07 AM

:rolleyes:

Ape-Shit

08-12-2006, 09:45 AM

Sexual Intellectual!

(for those who don't know - Fucking know-it-all)

beelzebub

08-14-2006, 07:58 PM

I totally understand and can even empathize with these so called "pro-lifers" when it comes to the fetus. What I cannot understand is this:

So let’s say abortion is made illegal. A woman has an unplanned pregnancy. She wants an abortion and will not be deterred.
Do we then imprison her for nine months and force her to deliver the child?
Do we let her go and have an alley abortion where her life is in jeopardy? (of course then putting her into jail for murder).

Which choice would you life loving people prefer?

Brains_Behind_Operation

08-14-2006, 10:44 PM

I understand where you're comming from, and I've contemplated the question before. The fact is that this type of thing will happen much less frequently than the legal abortions that are happening now, so more lives are being saved. There are consequences for every choice that we make, and you can only blame the person who made the choice for the consequences of it. The woman is taking her own chances by trying this back-alley aborion, and needs to know what she is risking by doing so. I would not imprison the woman for nine months, but possibly put a legal eye on her actions if she is considering an abortion. There should be a large penalty, (probably slightly less severe than the penalty for a murder), for any woman who does have an illegal abortion, not to teach her a lesson so much as to deter others who are considering the act.

General Septem

08-15-2006, 07:20 AM

So let’s say abortion is made illegal. A woman has an unplanned pregnancy. She wants an abortion and will not be deterred.
Do we then imprison her for nine months and force her to deliver the child?
Do we let her go and have an alley abortion where her life is in jeopardy? (of course then putting her into jail for murder).

That's where my neo-anarchism comes in. I don't know if a "neo"-anarchism actually exists but in my case, it's more or less the belief that:

1. Not everything should be so arbitrary.
2. Not everything can be legislated away.
3. The people need to take some responsibility for the determination of what's good and bad for society.
4. A true anarchism would never work because people are too selfish to be trusted to act in the general good of society.

Among certain other things. As you can see, the second clause here probably applies. I think abortion is one of those things that can't be legislated away. But that hasn't stopped our democracy from making other things illegal, for example drugs and marijuana.

So that brings us to the problem of, if we don't make it illegal, and if that wouldn't make a difference anyway, what do you do? You have to get at the core of society, which is the people. And the answer to that is education. Teach them the facts about unborn babies and that while their own body may be affected, the fetus's body is not their body and they can't simply kill him/her.

While we're at it, we might even figure out a way to remove the child and allow them to grow in artificial wombs. And when that hapens, there'd be no excuse or rationalization for getting an abortion.

Brains_Behind_Operation

08-15-2006, 06:17 PM

While we're at it, we might even figure out a way to remove the child and allow them to grow in artificial wombs. And when that hapens, there'd be no excuse or rationalization for getting an abortion.

Well, I can think of one excuse that comes to mind which will inevitably come up against this artificial womb solution. That excuse is cost. There is no way that a procedure like this will be cheaper than any abortion. This will be a good enough reson for MANY women to avoid the artificial womb in favor of the cheaper choice of abortion.

General Septem

08-15-2006, 06:23 PM

Well, I can think of one excuse that comes to mind which will inevitably come up against this artificial womb solution. That excuse is cost. There is no way that a procedure like this will be cheaper than any abortion. This will be a good enough reson for MANY women to avoid the artificial womb in favor of the cheaper choice of abortion.

Perhaps the government or some services could offer financing for such things. I'm sure there'd be at least one pro-life organization dedicated to it.

Brains_Behind_Operation

08-15-2006, 06:45 PM

It's a nice idea, but it's pointless until we can create an acceptable artificial womb. Until then, we need to do something else to save the lives of these unborn human beings.

beelzebub

08-16-2006, 07:09 PM

It's a nice idea, but it's pointless until we can create an acceptable artificial womb. Until then, we need to do something else to save the lives of these unborn human beings.

I agree with BBO's analysis. You live too much in the future.

beelzebub

08-16-2006, 07:14 PM

That's wher ... bla bla bla ... abortion.

Why not just answer the question with the conditions I have described?
The situation is totally plausible and I am interested in the outcome.
Describing your beliefs and providing an uncertain response is akin to politicians.

So what is it? Which choice would you life loving people prefer?

Here is my example again:
So let’s say abortion is made illegal. A woman has an unplanned pregnancy. She wants an abortion and will not be deterred.
Do we then imprison her for nine months and force her to deliver the child?
Do we let her go and have an alley abortion where her life is in jeopardy? (of course then putting her into jail for murder).

General Septem

08-16-2006, 07:25 PM

I agree with BBO's analysis. You live too much in the future.

I was merely offering a solution to the abortion problem, because you're right, it can't be easily legislated away.

General Septem

08-16-2006, 07:33 PM

RE: Why not just answer the question with the conditions I have described?
The situation is totally plausible and I am interested in the outcome.
Describing your beliefs and providing an uncertain response is akin to politicians.

I misunderstood your question.

We do the same thing we'd do to anyone who is going to murder someone else. We keep them in custody until we are assured of the safety of society. If she does murder her baby, we treat her the same way as we treat other murderers. Simple.

Brains_Behind_Operation

08-16-2006, 07:49 PM

So what is it? Which choice would you life loving people prefer?

I stand akin to my previous reply, which leaves the answer somewhere in between the two options that you have provided. Yes, abortion is still murder, but it will not be accepted as equal to murder by the general society, so to make things better we need, at least at first, to treat abortion as a crime SIMILAR to murder but less severe.

beelzebub

08-16-2006, 08:11 PM

I stand akin to my previous reply, which leaves the answer somewhere in between the two options that you have provided.

So... in-between my two options? They are: allowing a back alley abortion and imprisonment? I do not understand what could be in-between these two options.

Yes, abortion is still murder, but it will not be accepted as equal to murder by the general society, so to make things better we need, at least at first, to treat abortion as a crime SIMILAR to murder but less severe.

Are you speaking for the general society? I am quite sure that the majority prefer to keep abortion legal.

Similar to murder but less severe... you mean like "Negligent homicide" or "Justifiable homicide" or "Infanticide"?

Whatever the name, that’s not what I asked! I am asking WHAT PUNATIVE ACTION will you take?

Brains_Behind_Operation

08-16-2006, 09:04 PM

So... in-between my two options? They are: allowing a back alley abortion and imprisonment? I do not understand what could be in-between these two options.... I am asking WHAT PUNATIVE ACTION will you take?

In between the two options would be something along the lines of a parole set on the person who is considering abortion. Have a legal eye on them (as I said in my initial reply), so that they will at least find it more difficult to have an abortion. As far as punishment after they go through with it anyways, I'd have to look at the things that they think they are avoiding by having the aborion. Money appears to be one of these, so one penalty I would make is a fine that is greater than the average extra cost a person incurs to having the abortion. Another thing that they are avoiding is the nine months of humiliation of being pregnant, so I'd give them at least that much time in prison. Another penalty would be to remove her from ever being able to adopt a child, since she never let anyone else adopt the child in herself. These are penalties that have just quickly come to mind now, there probably are more that should apply. Please let me know other reasons for having an illegal abortion so that I can focus and come up with some more ideas of how to punish a person for the act.

rawsugar

08-23-2006, 04:10 PM

Anyone who uses the kind of derogatory language used by many of the participants in this thread does not deserve the time more rational participants have put into well reasoned responses. I have a lot I would like to say to some of the posts I have read but frankly, I don't think you deserve a proper response.
Abi