God Dammit!!

[Guinness]

I CANT FUCKIN TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!
I work in an auto parts store in southwest florida. i fuckin swear, if one more bastard comes up to my counter asking if i "speak-ee es espanol", im gonna fuckin thow a box of spark plugs at them! welcome to america, NOW FUCKIN SPEAK ENGLISH!!! what is this shit, if we go to fuckin mexico, germany or france, and dont speak spanish, german, or french, we dont get served. but all these border hoppin, ocean swimmin illegal immigrants cant even fuckin learn english? i dont fuckin get it, ANY OTHER NATIONALITY IN THE WORLD THAT COMES HERE, LEARNS ENGLISH FIRST? why the fuck cant they!
:confused: :mad: :confused: :mad:

[freakazoid]

I CANT FUCKIN TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!
I work in an auto parts store in southwest florida. i fuckin swear, if one more bastard comes up to my counter asking if i "speak-ee es espanol", im gonna fuckin thow a box of spark plugs at them! welcome to america, NOW FUCKIN SPEAK ENGLISH!!! what is this shit, if we go to fuckin mexico, germany or france, and dont speak spanish, german, or french, we dont get served. but all these border hoppin, ocean swimmin illegal immigrants cant even fuckin learn english? i dont fuckin get it, ANY OTHER NATIONALITY IN THE WORLD THAT COMES HERE, LEARNS ENGLISH FIRST? why the fuck cant they!
:confused: :mad: :confused: :mad:

Right on!!

[spankin-it]

Damn fucking straight man. If I went to Mexico I would learn spanish. If they come here they should learn english. FUCK

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

I wouldn't put so much effort into learning another language just so I can visit their country. I'd find some way to get by on a vacation without spending 6 weeks totally emersed in an English-Dumbfuckish dictionary just for a week long vacation. However, if these fucks are LIVING in our country, (legally or not) they ought to have learned English beforehand. So the fuck what if we don't exactly have an 'official' language, everyone knows what language the country operates on, and no one expects you to be fluent in any but one language if you live here.

Hell! It's recognized as the worldwide language anyways! If a person speaks two languages there's a damn good chance that ONE of them is English because America is such a huge power, ecconomically and governmentally. If you really want to live here then learn the fucking language. I wouldn't dare moving to another country before becoming fluent in their toungue.

[Guinness]

God Dammit!!

[this_is_bullshit]

Florida... Home of many immigrants. It comes with the territory, if you don't like it, move, otherwise just deal with it, ranting here isn't going to change anything... Hombre.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Florida... Home of many immigrants. It comes with the territory, if you don't like it, move, otherwise just deal with it, ranting here isn't going to change anything... Hombre.

Course it's not changing anthing, but it gives people a place to vent! Just don't read it if you can't handle the mindless ranting... mouissure.

[General Septem]

It should also be noted, however, that America is the only English-speaking country that doesn't use Commonwealth English. Genreally I try and use Commonwealth spellings and pronunciations whenever possible, like "cheque", "licence", and so forth, because I think America has bastardized the real English language.

Who pronounces "missile" like "missal"? Only America. >_>

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

It should also be noted, however, that America is the only English-speaking country that doesn't use Commonwealth English. Genreally I try and use Commonwealth spellings and pronunciations whenever possible, like "cheque", "licence", and so forth, because I think America has bastardized the real English language.

Who pronounces "missile" like "missal"? Only America. >_>

What? I've never used the word "missal", but just looked it up and found that it refers to a roman catholic book. A rather obscure reference. Also, I'm not familiar with this "Common Wealth' English, but it doesn't bother me any to use words with the other spellings of them. I think that it is only being used as a way for those who do use the 'Common Wealth' spelling of the language to snub Americans. Just look at its representation. Its reference to wealth makes it appear that money is the deciding factor of which is better.

[General Septem]

What? I've never used the word "missal", but just looked it up and found that it refers to a roman catholic book. A rather obscure reference.

I was referring to the pronunciation; Americans pronounce it "misil" where as I prefer to call it a "misail".


Also, I'm not familiar with this "Common Wealth' English, but it doesn't bother me any to use words with the other spellings of them. I think that it is only being used as a way for those who do use the 'Common Wealth' spelling of the language to snub Americans. Just look at its representation. Its reference to wealth makes it appear that money is the deciding factor of which is better.

Actually, commonwealth is just the standard English language, used by the "Commonwealth of Nations", such as Britain, Australia, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_English

Most likely, "Commonwealth" is a reference to the fact that the United Kingdom used to be Socialist.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

I was referring to the pronunciation; Americans pronounce it "misil" where as I prefer to call it a "misail".



Actually, commonwealth is just the standard English language, used by the "Commonwealth of Nations", such as Britain, Australia, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_English

Most likely, "Commonwealth" is a reference to the fact that the United Kingdom used to be Socialist.

And there's nothing wrong with America having its own pronnciation/spelling of things. Every region ends up spelling and pronouncing words a bit differently. When the country of origin disputes this change, then the change loses credibility, simply because of geographic differences.

[Guinness]

just to add to the mindless ranting some more about the english language(which wasnt the whole reason i started this thread), why do minnesotians(or whatever they like to be called) call it pop, and i call it soda?'
lets stick to the thread. SPEAK ENGLISH, WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT FORM IT IS!!

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

why do minnesotians(or whatever they like to be called) call it pop, and i call it soda?'

We call it pop because it sounds better than soda. I remember the first time I heard someone ask for a soda....I had NO idea what he wanted because we've ALWAYS called it pop! It's what I grew up hearing it called. Then you get someone from Texas walking in and asking for a coke. So you give him one and the bastard complains that he wanted 7-up! And you think that we're bad here in Minnesota....

[willfuckyourmind]

"Hablamos solamente Ingles
en esta pais."


"Los que no saben
hablar el Ingles
se pueden retirar
en el carajo
donde virais."


The American government
should post that
in every establishment
instead of the damned
kowtowing...
"Se habla Espanol aqui."


That hello shithead posting
translates to:
"We only speak English
in this country."


"Those who cannot
speak English
may return
to the hellhole
from which they came from."


As for the Commonwealth language
which is the one true English there is...
oh, but what flavor of such fine cuisine.
Now compare that to the junk crap
of the English version blacks and latinos dish out
where every three words are interspersed with:
"ya know wat ahm sayin'?"


And to think that there is not a damn thing
they are saying at all, except all that gibberish
of being unable to express themselves in the least.


Now, as for this bullshitting Website...
now this is a different animal altogether.
I am really quite very surprised!
Never mind the lousy grammar
or that some of the fellows misspell
and whatever else... but the gist
of the conversation is there.

[Paisleyspeaker]

Sorry Guinness, the pedant strikes again..

Commonwealth or common wealth means exactally that. At one point in time , it was held that certain things were givin by God to all men, that no one should own them. This included the land, air, and waters. These things were held as commons. Kings and their vassal lords were considered merely caretakers. The same could be held for a mother language, something that would be in the commons for her colonies something shared not owned. Both the US and Austrailia have developed their own colloqualisms and dialects.
If you go to the southwest spanish is starting to sneak in. Contrary to common belief, Spanish is well on it's way to becoming the most widely spoken language in the world. Having know people from all over the world, it is suprising how liguistically impaired Americans are. Most people speak 2 or 3 languages. Here we live in a mixing pot with opportunity to learn bits of many languages, and most of us barely speak our own.

Eschew Obsfucation, elucidate upon what I ponificate.
merde, ces't la vie.
darme cabesa, por favor
ich nee san chi go rook seech hatch kuu juu
moshe, moshe
oucht ya bie
is das lika shotzie
dos vedanya
(this was mostly spelled phonetically and therefore probably incorrectly)

[Dan The Man]

i say if they cant speek it!!!

Send em BACK!!! ;)

[hkdbadreligion]

...Racist.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

It's not a racial viewpoint. A person should be expected to speak the language of the country that they live in, regardless of if they're black, white, or miscellaneous. I agree with him, we shouldn't have even allowed them to enter the country until they can prove that they are able to communicate with its residents.

[hkdbadreligion]

I disagree. We wouldnt be here if it werent for immigration. Once we give them time, they'll learn the language.

[General Septem]

Good point. At the very least, their children will learn English because they'll have grown up in it. The best way to learn English is to participate in society.

However, nobody should be expected to be able to understand Farsi just because someone came into their store and can't speak English. It's the responsibility of the non-English speaker to find a way to communicate in such a way that the English speaker can understand.

[Paisleyspeaker]

Few immegrants really expect you to speak their language. Spanish is the most commonly spoken language int he world, if not buy now, then soon. Truth is we would all benifit by habloing a piquito espanol. I haved lived in Arizona and now live in Florida and illegals are a common fixture. If you want to be mad at them, I can give you a list of great reasons, but that they speak their native language is a stupid reason. If if frustrates your to put up with it for 5 minutes, imagine living that way. Still, anyone here illegally sould be deported. I for one don't want to pay for people who think so lowly of our laws.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

I for one don't want to pay for people who think so lowly of our laws.

Try renting to and living with them.....you start paying even more!

[Paisleyspeaker]

I live in Florida, my landlord just loves renting to them. They pack the place with about 18 guys, and roll through the neighborhood really slow in their trucks playing shitty mexican music really loud. My husband is a carpenter, and the builders don't pay their labor shit, because these guys will work for dirt. Who are they going to bitch to. We know the agruments.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

That sounds pretty bad, but I mean actually living WITH them. My first year with my house I rented out one of the rooms to a Mexican, so I lived in the same small house with him for almost a year. He never cared to help out around the house or respect any rules that didn't make his life easier, plus he found every way to dodge paying rent and things disapeared from the house or 'MYSTERIOUSLY' broke constantly. Being my first time doing this stuff, I had no idea where I needed to draw the line and didn't finally boot him out until about ten months into the year long contract. By then he still owed me over two grand, and I've done everything that I can to get my money from him, but it seems like the law is taking his side now that he's working two jobs, in some addict program and has his first little bastard child well on the way.

[Paisleyspeaker]

Ouch. You need a good book on Landlord Tenant law, check the refrence section of your public library. They make a couple of good ones. A good written lease makes it easier to get them out, have a clause that lets you automatically terminate. And since it's shared space, you can use the system too , two words- restraining order.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

That wasn't the problem, I had the termination clause in there the whole time. I just didn't know when enough was enough. He kept on promising that the money was right around the corner, and I have this flaw in my brain which causes me to naturally trust everyone. It was just a matter of how long I was going to let my trusting nature stay in the way of my gut intuition. A restraining order would do me no good where I'm at right now.

[Paisleyspeaker]

It is really hard when you want to believe people. You might be able to help yourself there buy not giving yourself the choice, could you put into the lease that it is automatically if X# of months rent are missed consecutivly or a debt of a certain amount is inccured? And how did you end up with this responsibility?

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

I think that I'd rather deal with it on a case by case basis. One reason that I let him stay for so long was that I didn't need the money yet, it was accruing interest while he didn't pay, and every month more money was owed. If I had kicked him out I would have had to find someone to take his place, and I wasn't sure if that would work. I saw it as just extra money that would be mine eventually, but I was too naive to realize that I was never going to be able to collect because he never intended to pay, and the law seems to always be on the side of those who are breaking it.

I gave this responsibility to myself. I purchased a house close to campus and started renting out rooms as a source of income. I had money that would earn interest in the house plus renting it paid for current bills coming to the house, and my college needs. It just seems that luck appears to be on my side less often than it is on my side. Luck favors the foolish, and I'm no fool.

[Mouche]

I wouldn't put so much effort into learning another language just so I can visit their country. I'd find some way to get by on a vacation without spending 6 weeks totally emersed in an English-Dumbfuckish dictionary just for a week long vacation. However, if these fucks are LIVING in our country, (legally or not) they ought to have learned English beforehand. So the fuck what if we don't exactly have an 'official' language, everyone knows what language the country operates on, and no one expects you to be fluent in any but one language if you live here.

Hell! It's recognized as the worldwide language anyways! If a person speaks two languages there's a damn good chance that ONE of them is English because America is such a huge power, ecconomically and governmentally. If you really want to live here then learn the fucking language. I wouldn't dare moving to another country before becoming fluent in their toungue.


don't get me wrong, but I've never met an American here in Europe who wouldn't immediately have started speaking his own language. Your LUCK we speak it cause you don't seem to be giving a damn about other languages.

sincerely yours...

[General Septem]

don't get me wrong, but I've never met an American here in Europe who wouldn't immediately have started speaking his own language. Your LUCK we speak it cause you don't seem to be giving a damn about other languages.

sincerely yours...
He has a point. Here we are bitching about Mexicans coming here and expecting us to speak their language, but at the same time we Americans are one of the worst as far as speaking other languages. You go to Europe and almost everyone there speaks English in addition to their native language. Most Americans quickly forget the year of whatever random language they took in high school by the time they're in college.

In fact when I went to Italy with my mom, everywhere we went, they all spoke English, and we didn't even walk into places and expect them to understand us. One time we just walked into a place and before we even said anything the cashier asked if we speak English. My mom would try and speak Italian but a lot of the time she'd just end up saying English words with a fake accent and adding a vowel at the end. :D

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Exactly why we don't need to learn a different language. Not saying that we shouldn't. But learning a different language in order to visit another country is a waste of time since most people speak English anyways. If I lived in a country that had a different primary language I would have made certain to learn it before moving there. EVERYONE would 'immediately' start speaking their own language if it were an option, there's nothing wrong with that. But if you can't speak the primary language of the country then you have no right to burden everyone you come in contact with by living there.

[tommygun]

I think he's talking about Americans being some of the worst in the world for living in a country, say Italy, and still speaking English. Actually living there...

Could be wrong..

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

If that's the case I think that the country has every right to kick them out. No reason to force others to speak a language that isn't native to the country they live in, it just creates more problems. We have a large issue with that sort of thing here though just because America is such a great place to live that also supports and encourages people getting away with that shit all the time.

[tommygun]

Mmmmm, but why should you be able to stop them from coming in? I mean everyone had to travel there in the first place didn't they? Europeans came and stole the indians land, and they sure didn't speak their language... I think people have to be a bit more understand of the plight of some immigrants.

[beelzebub]

Mmmmm, but why should you be able to stop them from coming in? I mean everyone had to travel there in the first place didn't they? Europeans came and stole the indians land, and they sure didn't speak their language... I think people have to be a bit more understand of the plight of some immigrants.

AND FUCKING WHAT! Just because there was an open door policy before doesn't mean we need to do that now!

FUCK IMMIGRANTS! They have no rights! We decide how many will enter and who cannot stay!

[tommygun]

Well I'm glad that its not you who decides that you sorry excuse for a human being. I'm not even going to bother arguing with you, someone of your intelligencee clearly has nothing productive to add.

[hkdbadreligion]

That sounds pretty bad, but I mean actually living WITH them. My first year with my house I rented out one of the rooms to a Mexican, so I lived in the same small house with him for almost a year. He never cared to help out around the house or respect any rules that didn't make his life easier, plus he found every way to dodge paying rent and things disapeared from the house or 'MYSTERIOUSLY' broke constantly. Being my first time doing this stuff, I had no idea where I needed to draw the line and didn't finally boot him out until about ten months into the year long contract. By then he still owed me over two grand, and I've done everything that I can to get my money from him, but it seems like the law is taking his side now that he's working two jobs, in some addict program and has his first little bastard child well on the way.
HE owes YOU money. Whack his ass. Fuck who's side the law takes. Damn spec gyped you.

[Nobody]

I think that I'd rather deal with it on a case by case basis. One reason that I let him stay for so long was that I didn't need the money yet, it was accruing interest while he didn't pay, and every month more money was owed. If I had kicked him out I would have had to find someone to take his place, and I wasn't sure if that would work. I saw it as just extra money that would be mine eventually, but I was too naive to realize that I was never going to be able to collect because he never intended to pay, and the law seems to always be on the side of those who are breaking it.

I gave this responsibility to myself. I purchased a house close to campus and started renting out rooms as a source of income. I had money that would earn interest in the house plus renting it paid for current bills coming to the house, and my college needs. It just seems that luck appears to be on my side less often than it is on my side. Luck favors the foolish, and I'm no fool.
Pedophile!. You're so full of 'BULLSHIT' ,or you're a GODDAMN liar! So.-Which is it?

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Whacking him certainly isn't going to make me feel any better. I want my money, and there is no way to get it until he earns it and then dies. Right now the fucker doesn't have a penny worth of equity to his name. I doubt that he will for a VERY long time...

[Nobody]

Well I'm glad that its not you who decides that you sorry excuse for a human being. I'm not even going to bother arguing with you, someone of your intelligencee clearly has nothing productive to add.
. I can understand how you could think you and yours, could come and dictate to ours. All the trash you fucking people made, is inferior to the garbage the Chineese has been sending to the U.S., before the 90's.And as it turned out, it was crap, just like your offerning. Take your FUCKING ASS down where you think it's sooooo great! You Godamn Miscreant!!!

[tommygun]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[rawsugar]

what is this shit, if we go to fuckin mexico, germany or france, and dont speak spanish, german, or french, we dont get served.

I do! I think most other countries are pretty good at speaking English to be honest, especially the european countries you mentioned. Not too sure about Mexico as I've never been. It's because other nationalities are so good at speaking English, that English speaking countries have such a low percentage of nationals who can speak more than one language. I for one know that I never concentrated very much in French at school, because I didn't see that point of it as most French people speak reasonable English. Maybe they decide not to serve you because you are a boorish, ignorant, racist and opinionated American? It's a shame they allow people like you to travel, because you give a very bad impression of your country. Unfortunate, as most of the Americans I have met are polite, intellegent and openmided individuals.

Abi

[rawsugar]

I think that it is only being used as a way for those who do use the 'Common Wealth' spelling of the language to snub Americans.

How dare people use the spellings that have existed longer than your country!

[Ape-Shit]

I was in Amsterdam, Netherlands at a youth hostile where there were thirteen (13) people sitting at the bar. Each person were from a different country, but to my amazement, they all spoke English.

Most Americans while in a foreign country still think that they are at home in the USA and don't realize that they are in fact the foreigner.

Also, most Americans only speak english. Please note that I said most.

[freakazoid]

Sorry Guinness, the pedant strikes again..

Commonwealth or common wealth means exactally that. At one point in time , it was held that certain things were givin by God to all men, that no one should own them. This included the land, air, and waters. These things were held as commons. Kings and their vassal lords were considered merely caretakers. The same could be held for a mother language, something that would be in the commons for her colonies something shared not owned. Both the US and Austrailia have developed their own colloqualisms and dialects.
If you go to the southwest spanish is starting to sneak in. Contrary to common belief, Spanish is well on it's way to becoming the most widely spoken language in the world. Having know people from all over the world, it is suprising how liguistically impaired Americans are. Most people speak 2 or 3 languages. Here we live in a mixing pot with opportunity to learn bits of many languages, and most of us barely speak our own.

Eschew Obsfucation, elucidate upon what I ponificate.
merde, ces't la vie.
darme cabesa, por favor
ich nee san chi go rook seech hatch kuu juu
moshe, moshe
oucht ya bie
is das lika shotzie
dos vedanya
(this was mostly spelled phonetically and therefore probably incorrectly)

Hey Paisley...wha sa matta you, chu don't read you private messages, mon? :D Chu got ones from me.