Bush not only the Dumbest Fuck.....

[truth.357]

Now that the elections for the new "presidente" the fuckin democrates have this new guy that says that 9-11 will never happen again and that if he was to move into the office there would never be a threat close to home.... BULLSHIT.I really hope that for our sake...this ass nazi doesn't get elected or we will have another push for this "great" country of ours to be attacked.Only this time war will not start somewhere else....but home.Well if that happens Viva la Mexico.I am going south of the border.Or north to Canada heh.:D
But .....then again with American violence on the rise we won't need the troops to come back.The people in most of our surroundings are already for some shit to happen wiether in the gehtto or the suburbs.You know....maybe we should just send our criminals to fight with all that bent up anger or rage thats BEGGING for blood.What a sight that would be.

[jonilaine]

As soon as war starts over here...you will see me on my front porch...shotgun in hand with a pot on my head. Yes I will go crazy...but dammit I am gonna shoot me some friggin Iraqees! Something about that image just cracks me up!

[Uncle Fox]

I've had the hair vibrating on the back of my neck for several years now, and the interesting part of the equation is that there are A LOT of guns in this country. Unlike some of the places where the "revolting masses" have had to use hayforks and hatchets, we're all pretty heavily armed.

I have a suspicion It could shake out into another Blue/Gray war (if your look at '04 election votes, all the Civil War "slave states" and neutrals voted for "W", the abolition states when for that Democrat whats-is-name). Any thoughts? I have lots of friends in the South who are definitely NOT Bushies, and I think the whole North/South BS may be just another way for the politicians to try to set us against one another. I'd be interested in your thoughts on this, Alabama.

And as for you, Truth .357, you might want to work up a 3rd choice, because if it hits the fan, Mexico won't be any safer than here and Canada won't let you in (Canada's knid of a snooze anyway)

En garde!

[jonilaine]

Candada is just waiting for their friggin chance to shut americans out! I think it is rather funny though. See, Canada is like America's little brother...not as popular but better! I mean think about it...when is the last time you heard something bad about Canada in the news...other than their flag....no offense but it is ugly! Just my opinion though!

[Zzyzx]

You're right, you never hear much bad news from Canada. The US made them what they are today - they'd still be a nation of fur trappers & lumberjacks if it wasn't for their "awful" cousin to the south. O Canada, our home and unofficial 51st state of the Union.

truth.357 - #1: I don't see us being attacked in the classical infantry sense anytime soon. Any fighting that breaks out is going to be started / ended with nuclear weapons (courtesy of Iran, China, or NK) - all life on Earth will cease to exist, so there's no need to worry about hand-to-hand combat on the streets of Denver.

If we were attacked, however, I'd stand my ground until the end, completely regardless of who's in office at the time.

How is "American violence on the rise"?

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

...Any fighting that breaks out is going to be started / ended with nuclear weapons (courtesy of Iran, China, or NK) - all life on Earth will cease to exist, so there's no need to worry about hand-to-hand combat on the streets of Denver.

I swear the summers have been getting hotter and hotter every year, it's all that global warming shit starting to happen. A nuclear winter may be just what the doctor ordered to balance everything out.:D

[Nobody]

Candada is just waiting for their friggin chance to shut americans out! I think it is rather funny though. See, Canada is like America's little brother...not as popular but better! I mean think about it...when is the last time you heard something bad about Canada in the news...other than their flag....no offense but it is ugly! Just my opinion though!
Come on. Everyone knows that CANADA, isn't nothing more than a bunch of UNARMED AMERICANS!

[this_is_bullshit]

Come on. Everyone knows that CANADA, isn't nothing more than a bunch of UNARMED AMERICANS!


Nah, they are smart, they don't start or get into wars, hence, they have no need for a real military of sorts.

Notice I said smart, as they don't put idiots into office that start this war crap.

Some may argue & say the terrorists started this, but it is truly our own fault, otherwise they would have attacked Canada by now as well.

[this_is_bullshit]

I swear the summers have been getting hotter and hotter every year, it's all that global warming shit starting to happen. A nuclear winter may be just what the doctor ordered to balance everything out.:D


Yea, sure, so we can all die. Yea, that solves everything.

Glad you seem to be using sarcasm as well.

[Nobody]

Nah, they are smart, they don't start or get into wars, hence, they have no need for a real military of sorts.

Notice I said smart, as they don't put idiots into office that start this war crap.

Some may argue & say the terrorists started this, but it is truly our own fault, otherwise they would have attacked Canada by now as well.
You have to understand what CANADAS gun laws are, to appreciate this

[jonilaine]

True...Canadians don't start shit like we do! If you don't start none they won't be none! I love using a black-scent...because I am sooo friggin white...it is just hilarious!
Anyways...this is the end of everything...I don't want anybody to say anything after this...unless you are agreeing with me! Other wise I will rip out your testicles through your eyeballs!!!

----Canada rules...and America sucks...but America is better...even though Canada is peacefull...although they are all a bunch of ugly asses...America the beautiful?...you think they were talkin about the country...hell no...they were talking about all the fine ass we have here...so...we should all shut the hell up and shoot the Canadians....down with them!!

Oh yeah...by the way..I am an asshole and if you take anything I say seriously then you should probably go fuck yourself...I WONT apologize!

[hkdbadreligion]

I read something on a "Patriotic" bookmark that said something in Latin then translated it in English. It said, "The truth will make you free." Sound a little familiar? On the gates of the concentration camps during WWII they said, "Arbeit Macht Frei" which in English is "work will make you free". We're jews locked in the concentration camp known as America.

[jonilaine]

Hey...How many Senior members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?


.....1...which is a coincidence because it only takes one to change the subject and post in the wrong damn thread!!

I don't give a shit about Germans...and their WWII...I'm an American and I'm a TOOL!!! I eat babies and shit dump trucks!! WOOT! :)

[hkdbadreligion]

halt die schnauze, dummer Jude.

[jonilaine]

Yeah...your a dip...shit that is! Stick one in your nose! A big one mind you! I specifically said to NOT F'n post after that post that I made...you are disobeying me and I am getting freaking ANGRY!!!!

[Nobody]

True...Canadians don't start shit like we do! If you don't start none they won't be none! I love using a black-scent...because I am sooo friggin white...it is just hilarious!
Anyways...this is the end of everything...I don't want anybody to say anything after this...unless you are agreeing with me! Other wise I will rip out your testicles through your eyeballs!!!

----Canada rules...and America sucks...but America is better...even though Canada is peacefull...although they are all a bunch of ugly asses...America the beautiful?...you think they were talkin about the country...hell no...they were talking about all the fine ass we have here...so...we should all shut the hell up and shoot the Canadians....down with them!!

Oh yeah...by the way..I am an asshole and if you take anything I say seriously then you should probably go fuck yourself...I WONT apologize!
Wouldn't it be easier to just slit their bag and run their leg thruogh it?

[jonilaine]

Possibly...it would be more fun..but that is considered torture and no one likes a whiney, tortured Canadian in court. It is just one of those things that you try to avoid. Like Terry Shivo...did you see that veggie? If I was her husband I would have pulled the damn plug too...but I am getting off subject and people are probably taking me serious again...god I hate people who take me serious...down with them!!:mad:

[jonilaine]

halt die schnauze, dummer Jude.

Oh and what the fuck is this guy talking about..someone kill him before I piss my pants from all of the stupidness!:cool:

[Zzyzx]

We're jews locked in the concentration camp known as America.

Goddamnit, loons like you just piss me the hell off. Your little thesis statement got my attention - now you need to back it up.

I'm listening. Suggestion: try to come up with something that hasn't been vomited by some liberal, hippie douche a million times.

[jonilaine]

Okay... A) I am not a liberal....B) I admire hippies and their stand that they took...even if it wasn't very moral. C) You take shit very seriously and you should probably get laid.

Now since you don't know anything about me...and can't create a very good argument against me..I am going to help you out:

I am a female and VERY proud of it..however I don't like to discriminate against anyone or anything so I pretty much have an assholish comment for everything. I try not to get too involved in politics because my blood pressure gets high...so I make fun of things. I am a womanizer even though I am a woman...I hate on conservatives...even though most of those I love are conservatives...I hate on liberals...even though most of my beliefs are liberal..(I consider myself independent...however voting independant would be like sticking a plunger up my ass)...I am not a flip flopper...I am funny! I don't like your username and I don't like you throwing in foreign language in your posts...oh and I hate commies!

All in all I think your ideas are pretty cool...I just bash everything...so quit getting all fucking anxious to 'put me in my place' because believe me...I already have!

[Zzyzx]

You're "proud" of yourself? Well, gee-whiz! You may be a little too proud - enough that you go on little tirades touting your independence and fail to see the humor in the whole situation.

Besides, who the hell are you talking to? My last post was directed at hkdbadreligion.

[hkdbadreligion]

Was she talking to me or you?

[jonilaine]

Okay how about this...HKDBADFUCKINGRELIGION...there...now that we all know who the hell who I am talking to...You, my friend, are a huge douche.


Now..the other guy...hippies aren't so bad...now...it is over...


NEXT TOPIC! damn!

[hkdbadreligion]

Beware... It's that time of the month.....

[jonilaine]

No..no actually it isn't..you asshole...in fact if you would like to know...I don't have periods anymore...yeah that's right...I had cancer...can't have kids. They surgically removed my junk...

I just get a little pissed whenever you guys think it is 'that time of the month' It's like it's suppose to be a big insult or something...what a douche!

[sharplee]

i hope no one gets elected. it doesn't matter who we vote for. they will put into office whoever they want. this system is broken. our constitution is good, but is not followed. hell, the soviets based their constitution on ours. the system is a dragon that must be slain. no deals can be reached. the dragon doesn't just give up its gold.

s

[jonilaine]

Okay...A. It does matter who we vote for..I a firm believer in that. I mean yeah..the people of our government suck...but they're people...our government rocks...I would much rather live here than London or China or The Middle East.
B. I'm not sure how you went from politics to dragons but your metaphor and its transistion sucks!

[hkdbadreligion]

They removed your junk? Ok then, she's pissy cuz she aint gettin laid.

[jonilaine]

They removed your junk? Ok then, she's pissy cuz she aint gettin laid.

Yes my junk...and yes I'm pissy because I'm not getting laid...I mean with geniuses like you around...taking all the babes...I mean...There is sooo much competition when your around...God man...how did you get so suave?

[hkdbadreligion]

I was born suave. Well... there's always prostitution.

[jonilaine]

I was born suave. Well... there's always prostitution.

yeah yeah yeah...nice one!

[hkdbadreligion]

...I know.

[sharplee]

"they're people" - technically. they count on folks to be naiive. your vote does not count, and the new computerized voting systems guarantee that. our country is at a crossroads, as is the entire world. one road leads to total slavery not the "almost total" slavery of today. the other road leads to? something different. that's for sure. something different is far better than the other alternative.

i'm not one of those people who claims that the us fedgov is looking for any excuse to declare martial law. they don't have to. these guys are much more sophisticated than they were in the 30's. they learn and grow just like any other organization. they've got us in a box, but the box has horizons painted on the inside, and a dvd player and 500 channels of cable.

s


Okay...A. It does matter who we vote for..I a firm believer in that. I mean yeah..the people of our government suck...but they're people...our government rocks...I would much rather live here than London or China or The Middle East.
B. I'm not sure how you went from politics to dragons but your metaphor and its transistion sucks!

[jonilaine]

"they're people" - technically. they count on folks to be naiive. your vote does not count, and the new computerized voting systems guarantee that. our country is at a crossroads, as is the entire world. one road leads to total slavery not the "almost total" slavery of today. the other road leads to? something different. that's for sure. something different is far better than the other alternative.

i'm not one of those people who claims that the us fedgov is looking for any excuse to declare martial law. they don't have to. these guys are much more sophisticated than they were in the 30's. they learn and grow just like any other organization. they've got us in a box, but the box has horizons painted on the inside, and a dvd player and 500 channels of cable.

s


Let's see are you in college?

[Paisleyspeaker]

Yeah, Bush is a dumb ass. And he started the damn war, because if he were bombing terrorists , our troops wouldn't be destroying the archological treasures of anchient Babylon, but really flaring the tempers of the Islamic world and bombing Saudi Arabia. The 9/11 guys were Saudi. And I can't wait until the next election. I can't wait for the basically decent Republican base to kick these Neocons out of office. I would love to see a Dem. in office again, but really they are not organized enough to pull it off. They have been handed enough ammo to blow the Neo-cons out of the water. But they keep dropping it on their feet. Abu-graib, Abramov, NSA and our privacy, No WMD, leaking CIA operatives names for political reasons. If a democrat did any of those things the republican would have him out by now.

[Nobody]

Yeah, Bush is a dumb ass. And he started the damn war, because if he were bombing terrorists , our troops wouldn't be destroying the archological treasures of anchient Babylon, but really flaring the tempers of the Islamic world and bombing Saudi Arabia. The 9/11 guys were Saudi. And I can't wait until the next election. I can't wait for the basically decent Republican base to kick these Neocons out of office. I would love to see a Dem. in office again, but really they are not organized enough to pull it off. They have been handed enough ammo to blow the Neo-cons out of the water. But they keep dropping it on their feet. Abu-graib, Abramov, NSA and our privacy, No WMD, leaking CIA operatives names for political reasons. If a democrat did any of those things the republican would have him out by now.
I believe the 'Commander in Chief ' is the trigger man,designed to create another "Vietnam", for the same reason L.B.J., allowed Vietnam to continue for 10 years. Bush is from an oil empire, and so was Johnson. In the Vietnam era, evry oil well in the country was producing at full capicity. Besides fuel to power the military, they produced an over abundance of jelled gasolene, called " napolm ", that was dropped from planes on top of everything living below. Thats pretty barbaric. Today however, we don't have the same #'s of ships sitting in their bays, we don't have the planes and helicopters ,the same amount of tanks, and supply vehicles, (that all relied on oil products), in the Persian Gulf region ,that they had in Vietnam. So President George, dosen't want to be looked upon as being a barbarian, so we use just enough equipment to look intimidating, and while supplying our allies with fuel and oil supplies, adds up to hundreds of thousands of gallons of oil per month. But when the gov. is giving us its propaganda speech about how high the cost per barrell is, I see it as Bushes way to line his, and his kinds pockets, the same way Johnson did, in ten years, as to Bushes so far, short term war. 6 months ago, there was an Arabian Schiek, interviewed on the British news agency. He could not understand how the price of oil could be so high in the U.S. when most of the additives it takes to refine oil into fuel comes from the U.S. Why does diesel fuel cost more than gas, when it takes less to refine it? Why does propane cost as much as natural gas, when propane is man made? I'm a regestered republican, and this next election I'll have changed to Independant party. I believe the dems. and repubs. sleep in the same bed. A week and a half ago, the senators,( both parties) voted to keep our borders open. If we're at war with "terriorism", why would we not want to keep track of who comes into this country? Those who are in power now, ( Every one in D.C.), need to be voted out. Bring in all new people, regardless of which way an individual votes, maybe the politicians will get the message.

[Paisleyspeaker]

Bush isn't just making money on the oil. He and his father own stock in the companies that make the weapons and vehicles they're using over there. For everyone that gets blown up and replaced they make money. Wonder why the vehicles are'nt being properly armored? He is literally making money on our soldiers dying. Michael Moore's Farinheit 911 goes into it further. And I completely aggree with you about the price of oil. They knew going into this war that it would raise the price of oil dramitcally. When his daddy went in it jumped the price of oil from about 13 a barrel to 40 a barrel. The very fact that they lied and knew they were lying points to an alterior motive. And it deon't take much looking to find one.

[Nobody]

Bush isn't just making money on the oil. He and his father own stock in the companies that make the weapons and vehicles they're using over there. For everyone that gets blown up and replaced they make money. Wonder why the vehicles are'nt being properly armored? He is literally making money on our soldiers dying. Michael Moore's Farinheit 911 goes into it further. And I completely aggree with you about the price of oil. They knew going into this war that it would raise the price of oil dramitcally. When his daddy went in it jumped the price of oil from about 13 a barrel to 40 a barrel. The very fact that they lied and knew they were lying points to an alterior motive. And it deon't take much looking to find one.
George Sr., should be charged with 'Insider Trading'. After all, wasn't he once, the head of the C.I.A.? And who would be better informed of the armaments of the military! Dosen't that constitute the same thing Martha Stewart was charged with? Slick Willie is the one that opened the door for blatant lying, with his first, and formost. " Yes I smoked pot, but I didn't inhale" What is the significance of what it is to 'inhale' if you'd never done it? That statement, opened a new path for politions to follow. If in dought, lie your ass off. Clinton did,and it got him elected, Al Gore tried it ( I invented the internet), and people thought he was too far in left field, to even consider him being a candidate. So here comes John Kerry. The first thing he proposes is to bring back our boys from Iraq. But the oil lobbysts, are standing there willing to line congress's pockets to keep them there. The lobbysts are the ones we really need to eradacate first.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Slick Willie is the one that opened the door for blatant lying, with his first, and formost. " Yes I smoked pot, but I didn't inhale" What is the significance of what it is to 'inhale' if you'd never done it? That statement, opened a new path for politions to follow.


Last I heard, politicians have been lieing, or twisting the truth, for as long as they word politician has existed! That's what gets them into office!!! The ability to make us skeptical enough to think that they could have meant something different. Even though we know for damned certain what they're really thinking!

[Nobody]

Last I heard, politicians have been lieing, or twisting the truth, for as long as they word politician has existed! That's what gets them into office!!! The ability to make us skeptical enough to think that they could have meant something different. Even though we know for damned certain what they're really thinking!
Through things my grandad new personally about Harry Truman.I know what my grandad said was true. If it wasn't for the fact that Einstein sent Franklin Roosevelt a letter on how to stop the war, (WWII), he wouldn't have gotten credit for making the public believe, he pushed for the developement of the A- Bomb. A little white lie. People today believe that. The point I was making was the 'in your face lie' that Bill Clinton told the people, the young voters that smoked pot, and the old people that didn't know the difference, could only believe was true, because he admitted to doing it. Thats the reference I was referring to. And unless you 've followed any certain party, to know what they've done in the past, you, or any one else cant possibly know what they're thinking. Otherwise, why vote for anyone?

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

And unless you 've followed any certain party, to know what they've done in the past, you, or any one else cant possibly know what they're thinking. Otherwise, why vote for anyone?

Whether or not we know what they're thinking doesn't stop us from being CERTAIN that we know what they're thinking. And you vote for one party because it's better than the other. Everyone knows that it's better to choose the lesser of two evils than to let them decide for themselves.

[Paisleyspeaker]

All politicians lie. We really don't give them that much of a choice. Our nation has a lot of viewpoints on a lot of topics, and our befiefs come in a lot of combinations. Yet they want to get all of our votes. The result is that they spew a mixture of creative middle of the road staments and white lies. And this goes for Rep. as well as Dems. If you were old enough you would remember the venom Reagan and Bush Sr. blasted at one another almost right up to their combined nomination. Then they were buddies. And the same with Clintons didn't inhale statement. Again societies bias pushed behavior. If he told the truth (which he could have) young people would have thought him cool (Except for you young republicans) and older people would have held it against him (an act of pure hypocrasy for the others in his generation who experimented in college then let it go).
There are times that the Dems and Reps are like coke and diet coke. Republicans stand fo rman oppressing man and the Democrates vice versa. But the two big parties have such control that they elbow out the smaller parties like the Greens, and also independant canidates Out spending them , and pushing them out of the debates. George Washington in his final days as president warned against a two party system. He was right. Now, with the money making machines of the parties behind them, the average man stands no chance running for a high office unless he whores himself to corperate america.
The lobbyist are just the fetid icing on the rotten cake. What has come out about Abramov is just the tip of the iceberg. Most of the country believes politicians are corrupt. And if that many people believe it, and somebody creates an American Idol type tv show about it, things will change.:p

[Nobody]

All politicians lie. We really don't give them that much of a choice. Our nation has a lot of viewpoints on a lot of topics, and our befiefs come in a lot of combinations. Yet they want to get all of our votes. The result is that they spew a mixture of creative middle of the road staments and white lies. And this goes for Rep. as well as Dems. If you were old enough you would remember the venom Reagan and Bush Sr. blasted at one another almost right up to their combined nomination. Then they were buddies. And the same with Clintons didn't inhale statement. Again societies bias pushed behavior. If he told the truth (which he could have) young people would have thought him cool (Except for you young republicans) and older people would have held it against him (an act of pure hypocrasy for the others in his generation who experimented in college then let it go).
There are times that the Dems and Reps are like coke and diet coke. Republicans stand fo rman oppressing man and the Democrates vice versa. But the two big parties have such control that they elbow out the smaller parties like the Greens, and also independant canidates Out spending them , and pushing them out of the debates. George Washington in his final days as president warned against a two party system. He was right. Now, with the money making machines of the parties behind them, the average man stands no chance running for a high office unless he whores himself to corperate america.
The lobbyist are just the fetid icing on the rotten cake. What has come out about Abramov is just the tip of the iceberg. Most of the country believes politicians are corrupt. And if that many people believe it, and somebody creates an American Idol type tv show about it, things will change.:p
Ohhh, but they do have a choice. they choose to lie, to the benifit of themselves, at the cost of winning an election? If these people aren't up to date, on the issues, and events of the day,that they have to lie about a question on any given issue, why would any body consider a vote towards these candates in the first place? To vote for the lesser of two evils, is still, voting for evil. In minnesota, Jessy Ventura, ran aganst the odds of defeating the dems. and reps. And won. The out going govener tried to explain away how the states' deficit was so high, and it could not be brought down in a decade or more. As Govenor Jessy, He eliminated that entire deficit, in one term, and left office , only to prove he could manage the state, and fix its money problem. The lobbyst are the main problem, not so much as to influence a presidential candadate, but to those who may become one some time later. Get rid of those vultures. A reality show? That could be scary! what if some young girl, ( old enough to vote),voted for some one because she thought he had sexy eyes, or some middle aged woman liked the sound of his voice, or whatever their attributes are. Thats what reality t.v. is going to offer, whether its a male or female. If Miss Hilliary was to run in the next election. Would she get your vote? If so why? I can tell you why not to, based on what she tried to do to the people of the state of N.Y., after she became a N.Y. state senator.

[Paisleyspeaker]

I wasn't trying to say that a tv show would improve anything, just that if your really wanted the americans to care about it, that's where you need to put it. Give everyone a stylist and put it in prime time. It's sad how little people understand about our government and how it works. They don't know how it is supposed to work , or how it really does. We are too caught up with Brad and Angelina , and what every one is wearing. With which SVU to drive, and where to get the cool new ringtone for your cell.
MArtha Stewart is polishing the brass on the Titanic man, it's all going down.

[Paisleyspeaker]

The idea of Hilary vs Condaleeza like some have put forward scares me enough to look into Candian citizenship. Neither is what I would want for president, I kinda like Elizabeth Dole, but don't think she would ever run. But do tell me about the evils of Hilary.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

There you have it! A woman saying that it's a bad idea to vote for any woman president!

[Paisleyspeaker]

I didn't say it was a bad idea to vote for any woman president, just either or those women.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Until we find a candidate that you can agree with, you're shooting down the notion of a woman president by rejecting the only possibilities that there are :D

[Paisleyspeaker]

But I can't help it. They suck.:D

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

They suck.:D


Probably how they've been getting their names on the polls. :D :p :D

[Paisleyspeaker]

so the one who swallows wins?

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Well it's a lot less disgusting that seeing it drip down her face.....

[sharplee]

All politicians lie. We really don't give them that much of a choice. Our nation has a lot of viewpoints on a lot of topics, and our befiefs come in a lot of combinations. Yet they want to get all of our votes. The result is that they spew a mixture of creative middle of the road staments and white lies. And this goes for Rep. as well as Dems.

There are times that the Dems and Reps are like coke and diet coke. Republicans stand fo rman oppressing man and the Democrates vice versa. But the two big parties have such control that they elbow out the smaller parties like the Greens, and also independant canidates Out spending them , and pushing them out of the debates.

:p

the problem with our country (and the world at large), is that there is no choice. the parties that are successful are bought and paid for. along with their individual politicians. it's a scam, and quite clever apparently. people are so hung up on abortion, immigration, and jessica's law that they can't see the forest for the trees. and "the forest" is one unified assholish front that will make each and every one of us slaves. perfect slaves. much better than the slaves we are now. everything we use and need, from toilet paper to the "food" the conglomerates shit out is regulated. every action you take, every thought you have, has been approved or disapproved by the fedgov. now our voting machines are computerized. fixing votes has always been the norm. now it is so much easier. anyone who votes using a computerized voting machine has been fooled. nothing will come from such a vote. whoever wins was the predetermined choice.

the moral of this story: watch, listen, and know when and when not to jump ship.

s

[sharplee]

Let's see are you in college?

what a witty comeback. in reality, your reply is of no value, and wrong, by the way. stay lost in your own maze. that's your prerogative.

s

[General Septem]

what a witty comeback. in reality, your reply is of no value, and wrong, by the way. stay lost in your own maze. that's your prerogative.

s
Yeah, totally. I would never assume by your writing skills that you've even been through high school, let alone college.

[Nobody]

the problem with our country (and the world at large), is that there is no choice. the parties that are successful are bought and paid for. along with their individual politicians. it's a scam, and quite clever apparently. people are so hung up on abortion, immigration, and jessica's law that they can't see the forest for the trees. and "the forest" is one unified assholish front that will make each and every one of us slaves. perfect slaves. much better than the slaves we are now. everything we use and need, from toilet paper to the "food" the conglomerates shit out is regulated. every action you take, every thought you have, has been approved or disapproved by the fedgov. now our voting machines are computerized. fixing votes has always been the norm. now it is so much easier. anyone who votes using a computerized voting machine has been fooled. nothing will come from such a vote. whoever wins was the predetermined choice.

the moral of this story: watch, listen, and know when and when not to jump ship.

s
I disagree with your statement, that there is no choice. If this were true, then the Dems. would not be trying to eleminate the electorial vote, on the basis that Kerry would have won the election, if all votes counted, were from the total population count, which is now what the Democrates, have on their political agenda. As the scam issue goes, A president from the 40's allowed his entourage, to go out to the cemetarys to find names on head stones, that were still registered voters, and actually had votes cast, on the deceased behalf. George Sr., is another example. His propaganda speech was; " Read My Lipps. No New Taxes! ". We didn't get any NEW taxes, he just increased the old ones. He snow-balled everyone, that voted him in office. you obviously have enough insight to see whats going on in the political world, to see what is going to happen , and with issues that are happining now.. The food products you buy, I agree, are regulated.. The things that you buy, that you can't eat,( toilet paper, toasters, couches,washing machines), are not regulated, at least not now.. The food products in the Amish and Menninite communities, are not regulated. Those items, are harvested off the farms, the town itself, is the host of.. Our thoughts? Yes. They are being suppressed.. Alex Jones web site, for instanse.. One of the internet carriers, will not allow you to wiew his site, through their web pages. I can't find Larry Nichols site, on any of them.(Larry Nichols, has the dirt on every politition thats still breathing, via, the U.S. gov.), and the very computer voting machines you speak of.. Which are things I see as things to come.

[Nobody]

The idea of Hilary vs Condaleeza like some have put forward scares me enough to look into Candian citizenship. Neither is what I would want for president, I kinda like Elizabeth Dole, but don't think she would ever run. But do tell me about the evils of Hilary.
I wouldn't worry about ether of them. Even if they run. They have to test the water.. You don't need to go to Canada. They have well kept homes, and industry in desolate areas, and none are leaving their country,(people, or industry). They are proud people. But, they still have the same types of crime that the rest of the north american continant has.. You live in a sate that has self protection gun laws. Fla. should be nicknamed "The Shoot First State". Stay home. The people of Canada, have issues too. One of them is the American public trying to become Canadian citizens.. Elizabeth Dole! She got her job (chasing Bob's apron strings), as Transportation Secretary, due to outstanding favors, owed to Bob Dole, while he was speaker of the house. And now there is another string she's holding on to. After Bob's inability to secure the position of the President of the U.S., he became the first to secure a position in the first Viagra commercial. And that was a true fact.. ( now this is funny to me, I'm doing that drinking thing, so bear with me), how would it be right to bring Lizzy to public office under these circumstances? What about the media? there'll be questions! MEDIA>; Lizzy! We realize you must be tired of all this fucking around! But what was it like when Bob took his first hit of viagra? LIZZY>; It was like he had a baby's arm, holding a big red apple. MEDIA>;Did Bob's comercial have any effect on your neighbors? LIZZY>; Yes. Our neighbors SAM and SARAH, which they never got along together. Poor SAM died from a viagra over dose. MEDIA>; How do you die from a viagra overdose? LIZZY>; I'm not shure, but the coroner ruled it a suicied, he said he had hard evidense, that SAM beat himself to death. So now , back to the Doles. Leave those people alone. They're having fun. MISScreant Hillary. After she took the position of N.Y. state law maker, she proposed a bill to seek extra taxes for N.Y. state residents that used their own cerdit cards, for purchases out of the state of N.Y. But at the tax payers expense, there would have to be a new agency of the state to momitor every ones credit card purchases. All of this with out a clause that an individual was on buisness, or on vacation. I heard a report, listed from the F.B.I., about Hillary's involvement with the Simbionese Liberated Army. Which by our gov. in the 60's was considered a TERROIST group. So now she wants to be in charge of what she despises. YOU and ME.

[tommygun]

hahahahaha

[beatniks-and-politics]

replying to first page......pffft we dont get into wars? we always somehow become a part of the usa's bullshit wars. We end up on the target list for terrorist orginizations because the United states is a monster of a country who will start a war with ANYONE who they arent ali's with. in order to keep on the safe side, being so close to the U.S, we have to join in their bullshit wars to keep them happy, so they dont obliterate us.

[something]

replying to first page......pffft we dont get into wars? we always somehow become a part of the usa's bullshit wars. We end up on the target list for terrorist orginizations because the United states is a monster of a country who will start a war with ANYONE who they arent ali's with. in order to keep on the safe side, being so close to the U.S, we have to join in their bullshit wars to keep them happy, so they dont obliterate us.

I wonder if Netherlands is a part of NATO? Oh, now I see, yes it is:D no wait; FUCK:mad: or is it good? Let's see, I don't want to, but maybe we need it? no whata fuck who would war with us:p hmm maybe a few... WHATA HELL IS IT?? GOOD? BAD?:confused:

[beatniks-and-politics]

I wonder if Netherlands is a part of NATO? Oh, now I see, yes it is:D no wait; FUCK:mad: or is it good? Let's see, I don't want to, but maybe we need it? no whata fuck who would war with us:p hmm maybe a few... WHATA HELL IS IT?? GOOD? BAD?:confused:

both...I dont really think there are many people who want to go to war with the Netherlands though..and if you arent a part of NATO you dont owe anyone commitment to the ridiculous wars they started [for little reason] so I think its a good thing to NOT be a part of NATO.

[something]

both...I dont really think there are many people who want to go to war with the Netherlands though..and if you arent a part of NATO you dont owe anyone commitment to the ridiculous wars they started [for little reason] so I think its a good thing to NOT be a part of NATO.

Ok. But I do think americas power in the world is going to be reduced in the future.

[beatniks-and-politics]

Ok. But I do think americas power in the world is going to be reduced in the future.

I think so aswell...Japan or China are going to take over. They are so much more advanced than North America.

[something]

I think so aswell...Japan or China are going to take over. They are so much more advanced than North America.

Deffernitly. And some countries in South America is working hard to get America out of their countries, and Europe works more and more as one country, and the day will come when Netherlands just is one state in the United States of Europe :D

[beatniks-and-politics]

Deffernitly. And some countries in South America is working hard to get America out of their countries, and Europe works more and more as one country, and the day will come when Netherlands just is one state in the United States of Europe :D

Thats amazing. I actually didnt know they were working to unite. Such change could be amazing :D

[something]

Thats amazing. I actually didnt know they were working to unite. Such change could be amazing :D

Well, I don't think that's directly the thought, but we have the same laws, the same kind of money, don't need pass to cross borders and so on. So, I do think we are going to be unite, but we're talking like 90 years from now.

[beatniks-and-politics]

Well, I don't think that's directly the thought, but we have the same laws, the same kind of money, don't need pass to cross borders and so on. So, I do think we are going to be unite, but we're talking like 90 years from now.

Oh, well I hope it ends up happening, even if it is a long time from now. Somebody needs to shoot down the Bush empire.

[something]

Oh, well I hope it ends up happening, even if it is a long time from now. Somebody needs to shoot down the Bush empire.

Even if it wont be europe, you bet it'll be china. There economy groves quicker than any other economy on the pplanet, and the hundreds of billions of money as the american government has to pay(there's a word for that, but I don't know it) will sooner or later take them down.

[beatniks-and-politics]

Even if it wont be europe, you bet it'll be china. There economy groves quicker than any other economy on the pplanet, and the hundreds of billions of money as the american government has to pay(there's a word for that, but I don't know it) will sooner or later take them down.

I sure as hell hopes so [even though hell isnt sure..] I think you are thinking of their debt? They pay a Trillion dollars a year on firearms! its obscene!
China is certainley the most developed country out there, with all the things they create and actually put into use.

[something]

I sure as hell hopes so [even though hell isnt sure..] I think you are thinking of their debt? They pay a Trillion dollars a year on firearms! its obscene!
China is certainley the most developed country out there, with all the things they create and actually put into use.

Debt yeah that's it! You're right, it isn't sure, but it is a very possible scenario :D