what would the composers write?

[hitekredneck]

our new bs artist brought this up, and i thought it would make a fine poll...question is, what type of music would the great composers like bach, tchaikovsky, beethoven etc write if they were alive today?
i really don't have a clue, i only hope it wouldn't be rap :D

edit:
btw eruption, didn't mean to steal your thunder ;)

[Eruption]

It cant be rap because rap doesnt contain all of the elements of music. It has beat and rhythem, sometimes melody, never harmony and never timbre -- therefore cannot actually be classified music. They can't write classical because it wouldn't be classical if they wrote it today, now would it? It would be instrumental :p

Most instrumental pieces today are shit, with the exception of the Superman March, which rocks face in its musical glory. I've been playing trombone, piano, and guitar all of my life and I'm convinced that modern metal influences, such as As I Lay Dying, Children Of Bodom, Dream Theater, Steve Vai, The Showdown, Misery Signals, Norma Jean, and the like would be more what most classical composers would write.

The music is complex and fast paced, its adrennaline pumping, excited, and fun to listen to. It takes years to master and a tremendous understanding of music theory to write, especially melodic death/goth metal and math metal.

Those are my reasons, its my opinion, I'm sticking to it.

[hitekredneck]

It cant be rap because rap doesnt contain all of the elements of music. It has beat and rhythem, sometimes melody, never harmony and never timbre -- therefore cannot actually be classified music. They can't write classical because it wouldn't be classical if they wrote it today, now would it? It would be instrumental :p

Most instrumental pieces today are shit, with the exception of the Superman March, which rocks face in its musical glory. I've been playing trombone, piano, and guitar all of my life and I'm convinced that modern metal influences, such as As I Lay Dying, Children Of Bodom, Dream Theater, Steve Vai, The Showdown, Misery Signals, Norma Jean, and the like would be more what most classical composers would write.

The music is complex and fast paced, its adrennaline pumping, excited, and fun to listen to. It takes years to master and a tremendous understanding of music theory to write, especially melodic death/goth metal and math metal.

Those are my reasons, its my opinion, I'm sticking to it.

not to be showing my curmudgonry, but wtf is math metal?:confused:

[Eruption]

Norma Jean, The Chariot, Ion Dissonance, The Minor Times, things like that. Music writen without a key or time signature, or with a key or time signature that changes so often its hard to keep track. Instead of writing music within a key or time signature that stays consistent throughout the song, you write music in phrases and mathamentical patterns: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7:1,2,:1,2,3,4:,1--,3,4,5:1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9:1,2:1:1:1:1,2,3

Where each number represents a beat in a measure, each measure has a different number of beats and is an irregular time.

The best example is Norma Jean's "Oh God The Aftermath!" Album. Norma Jean is the original Math Metal.

Oh, also: An extremely ridiculous use of Dissonant key tonalities. A lot of "hardcore" is mistaken for math metal because of its irregular tempos (such as Underoath's "Define The Great Line" album).

Dissonance: If you're into music theory you know what it is, but I'll explain: Notes from the A Flat scale played in a song or phrase with an A Major melody, so that the melody and counter melody are off key from each other resulting in a shrill "scraping" sort of harmonious sound. Most composers resolve a dissonant harmony into a true harmony. Usually used towards the end of phrases in classical and instrumental music, but in the modern metal scene is used intermittently and randomly throughout the music.

[hitekredneck]

Norma Jean, The Chariot, Ion Dissonance, The Minor Times, things like that. Music writen without a key or time signature, or with a key or time signature that changes so often its hard to keep track. Instead of writing music within a key or time signature that stays consistent throughout the song, you write music in phrases and mathamentical patterns: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7:1,2,:1,2,3,4:,1--,3,4,5:1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9:1,2:1:1:1:1,2,3

Where each number represents a beat in a measure, each measure has a different number of beats and is an irregular time.

The best example is Norma Jean's "Oh God The Aftermath!" Album. Norma Jean is the original Math Metal.

Oh, also: An extremely ridiculous use of Dissonant key tonalities. A lot of "hardcore" is mistaken for math metal because of its irregular tempos (such as Underoath's "Define The Great Line" album).

Dissonance: If you're into music theory you know what it is, but I'll explain: Notes from the A Flat scale played in a song or phrase with an A Major melody, so that the melody and counter melody are off key from each other resulting in a shrill "scraping" sort of harmonious sound. Most composers resolve a dissonant harmony into a true harmony. Usually used towards the end of phrases in classical and instrumental music, but in the modern metal scene is used intermittently and randomly throughout the music.

i get it...kind of like the way rush changes the measures in a lot of their music...they don't have the distonal qualities you describe...guess i'm just too much of a redneck to get it :D

[Eruption]

i get it...kind of like the way rush changes the measures in a lot of their music...they don't have the distonal qualities you describe...guess i'm just too much of a redneck to get it :D

You should meet my friend Clae, brilliant musician.... but he writes songs about huntin and mud slingin and HOT DAMN!!! lmao

[TheSpectacularSecularist]

If they lived today and not back then we wouldn't have a classical genré so... Stick with classical.

[Loseirdo]

i get it...kind of like the way rush changes the measures in a lot of their music...they don't have the distonal qualities you describe...guess i'm just too much of a redneck to get it :D

I haven't been paying attention to the discussion, but Rush kicks ass. :D

[General Septem]

I voted metal, stick with classical, movie soundtracks, and lounge lizard style. I was specifically thinking of Mozart when I chose the latter. :D

Bach, Wagner, Beethoven, and the like would be hardcore metal though. It would be pretty fucking sweet metal, too. I've got to check out that math metal though.

Ravel? I don't know how to classify him. Out of the list, he'd probably do movie soundtracks, for weird, abstract movies about space and fatalism and stuff. Ravel is one of my favorites. Nobody sounds quite like he did.

[TheSpectacularSecularist]

I would like to see Grieg writing "In the hall of the mountain king" in metal thou :D

[MrJim]

Beethoven's deafness would give him a nice advantage as a metal guitarist... he could rock out as hard as he wanted without getting a headache!

[hitekredneck]

what ya'll are saying makes a lot of sense...but i think that every one of the greats you've mentioned would tap more than one field, if ya know what i mean...i believe that it would give us some great new(?) music....:D