Dubya. Our terrorist at home.

[this_is_bullshit]

G. W. Bush, a bastard president, in my opinion, as well as countless others. He claims his war on terror is, & I quote, "God's war" he also claims that God is looking out for him & helping him make the proper decisions. He is against gay & lesbian unions, which is not really his choice, & rallied hard based on these views during last elections, where, as I remember, the people I used to work for, sr. citizens, who owned a lumberyard here in town, voted for Dubya because, & again I quote, "He stands up for our beliefs, he's a christian & is doing what God wants."

Tell me, doesn't this just sound like an election ploy, a campaign, that, if I am correct on this, is the same type of ploy that the hated Bin Laden used to gain control of the masses over yonder?

Basically, we all know that Dubya is the biggest mistake that the US has made twice in the last decade, but doesn't this constitute terrorism on Dubya's part?

He is enlisting our army to go fight a war on terror, which, okay, it's valid & all, but isn't there personal gain there as well? We are fighting to maintain relations with an oil supplier, which, I might add, for those that don't know, Dubya is an oil tycoon, so is all his family & friends.

Whose best interests are at heart here?

[this_is_bullshit]

G. W. Bush, a bastard president, in my opinion, as well as countless others. He claims his war on terror is, & I quote, "God's war" he also claims that God is looking out for him & helping him make the proper decisions. He is against gay & lesbian unions, which is not really his choice, & rallied hard based on these views during last elections, where, as I remember, the people I used to work for, sr. citizens, who owned a lumberyard here in town, voted for Dubya because, & again I quote, "He stands up for our beliefs, he's a christian & is doing what God wants."

Tell me, doesn't this just sound like an election ploy, a campaign, that, if I am correct on this, is the same type of ploy that the hated Bin Laden used to gain control of the masses over yonder?

Basically, we all know that Dubya is the biggest mistake that the US has made twice in the last decade, but doesn't this constitute terrorism on Dubya's part?

He is enlisting our army to go fight a war on terror, which, okay, it's valid & all, but isn't there personal gain there as well? We are fighting to maintain relations with an oil supplier, which, I might add, for those that don't know, Dubya is an oil tycoon, so is all his family & friends.

Whose best interests are at heart here?
Well shit, I post a thought out rant, & everyone passes mine by to post in the HOLY CRAP BUSH SUCK BAWLS N I HATE BUSH CUZ HE HATES N HE DOES STUPID IN OFISS N I WISH HE WOOD JUS GO AWAY!!1111 threads.

See what I get for trying to make a point?

P.S. Bush sucks!

+1

[this_is_bullshit]

Bump.

Maybe I need to post the spam illiterate CRAP that some of you call well thought out posts, as I mentioned in my previous (to this) post.

[Mitya Karamazov]

You cry like women.

[this_is_bullshit]

You cry like women.


Well, atleast I am not a sexist bigot.

I suppose, due to your sentence phrasing, that you are probably one of the many posters that post as I mentioned above, so I can understand why you are offended, it's okay, go ask Mom or Dad for a hug, everything will be all right, just stay in school, do your homework, & learn how to be polite, you may actually have a chance at success in life.

Good luck to you!

P.S. I can't be arsed to go check what other posts you have made, so bite me.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

so you wanna talk about the war? Well, I don't agree with it, but there are many arguments that support it. Terrorism is the one that's being heard by the general public. Bush may have something personal to gain from it, but how often are you going to be able to find an event of such scale without it benefacting the primary instigator in some way?

Another argument is that it has been concluded that the American economy NEEDS a war at least every generation if not every decade to continue to thrive. It's a sickening thought, but I haven't seen any facts that refute it.

There is an argument that if we hadn't done something, they would have. I don't know how true this is, (no WMDs have been found to my knowledge), but that doesn't mean that something wasn't in the works.

All in all, Bush SHOULD have gotten the support from the UN before doing anything. But then it wouldn't look very good to the secret supporters of the Bush Mafia if they had to wait for Mother UN to hold their hand while crossing the ocean to play with the foreign kids.

[RangerMWilhite]

:mad: look for all of us over here, hearing how we arent fighting for america and only for oil is complete bullshit. When you walk into a terrorist's hideout and find women with thier tits cut off bleeding to death, then tell me that we aren't exterminating these people for a good reason. The people that we have been fighting over here are MONSTERS! It would sure be nice to get some fucking support from the people back home to give us some motivation, not seeing pictures of people protesting at our fellow soldier's funerals saying they are going to hell for supporting a country that kills for oil/ homosexual rights etc. If you want to do a good thing, get off your asses and actually support us, because believe it or not, when we get support from home, and not a bunch of ranting media bastards saying how wrong the war is, it gives us at least 5 minutes of peace and a reason to keep fighting. How about you think about that for a damn second!!

RMW

[this_is_bullshit]

Haha. That's funny stuff, however, you fail to look at why the war started in the very beginning, dude, do some research, I know some of what goes on over there, I know kids are bombs, kids are killed, & innocents are mutilated, raped & stuff, believe me, I know about it.

Don't get me wrong, I support liberation of people from terrorists (i.e. not Muslims, but terrorists, there IS a difference) & all that, but the true cause of the war is bull, it is about corporate decision making & big oil companies.

Not too mention that we trained Bin Laden & made him angry at us. Let's not forget that.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

:mad: look for all of us over here, hearing how we arent fighting for america and only for oil is complete bullshit. When you walk into a terrorist's hideout and find women with thier tits cut off bleeding to death, then tell me that we aren't exterminating these people for a good reason. The people that we have been fighting over here are MONSTERS! It would sure be nice to get some fucking support from the people back home to give us some motivation, not seeing pictures of people protesting at our fellow soldier's funerals saying they are going to hell for supporting a country that kills for oil/ homosexual rights etc. If you want to do a good thing, get off your asses and actually support us, because believe it or not, when we get support from home, and not a bunch of ranting media bastards saying how wrong the war is, it gives us at least 5 minutes of peace and a reason to keep fighting. How about you think about that for a damn second!!RMW

Actually, I'm doing a term project on a speech given by an Iraqi citizen, who has earned a doctorate and does a very good job of giving the inside opinion on the war. Mind you that he is against the war even though he had some large disagreements with Saddam's ways and has a price on his head because of it. His problem isn't so much with the war as it is with what it's about and how it has been handled. For one, Bush had no right to step in and start this war without at least the SUPPORT of the UN. If the UN disagreed with this war, then what gives America the right to start it? The reasons must not have been nearly as just as we've been led to believe. Civilians have not been treated properly during this war either. Soldiers storm into private houses, looking for specific people and then drag away their women and lock them up as hostages to bargain for the people that they want. From this professor's own dealings with friends and family back home in Iraq, it is quite clear that the Iraqi citizens believe that things are worse off now than they were while Saddam still had power. Even if things will be getting better in the future, we should never have made them worse. Operation Speedy resolution has been anything but.

[Zzyzx]

For one, Bush had no right to step in and start this war without at least the SUPPORT of the UN. If the UN disagreed with this war, then what gives America the right to start it?

Yes, the war was unjustified. Desert Storm II is a nightmare and we won't wake up for decades. Regardless.... the United States or any other country on the planet doesn't need to have permission from anyone to go to war. The UN is just a feel-good, powerless organization whose sole purpose is to make little countries like Norway feel that they have an influence on world events.

If we're going to go to war, we'll do it for our own reasons.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Yes, the war was unjustified. Desert Storm II is a nightmare and we won't wake up for decades. Regardless.... the United States or any other country on the planet doesn't need to have permission from anyone to go to war. The UN is just a feel-good, powerless organization whose sole purpose is to make little countries like Norway feel that they have an influence on world events.

If we're going to go to war, we'll do it for our own reasons.

Our own reasons were horrible! A leading reason was that Iraq's government was so corrupt that it needed us to step in and overthrow it to make it acceptable. If we thought this, then why didn't the other countries in the world agree? That's why the voice of the UN needed to be a major deciding factor on whether or not the war was to be started.

[RangerMWilhite]

O.K. Some of this shit sounds a bit like a conspiracy thoery. We did, i repeat did come for some oil. But it was not the main reason behind it. If you dont remember, these bastards flew fucking airplanes into the world trade tower, which so happened to have my cousin inside. He is dead now because of this. We needed to do this the right way, and we need to stay to make sure a government is formed over there because THATS WHAT PISSED THEM OFF THE FIRST TIME!!! We left them with nothing. And, by the way, when we go driving through Iraq, both the north and south sides support us, and cheer us on while we drive down the roads. The middle part of it, is a little different. We are not allowed to be in an open vehicle if travelling through the middle of the country. I dont care what people say is happening, because until you get over here and see for yourself, you really cant say shit. I support bush (sort of) He is spending alot more money than he should be, which all of us will probably have to pay for in the future. We are here partly for oil (at least im pretty damn sure) but its not the only reason and it is not unjustified. Plus, CNN says that gas is like 3 or 4 dollars now? I'm not sure how that makes sense, but thats a different topic...

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

O.K. Some of this shit sounds a bit like a conspiracy thoery. We did, i repeat did come for some oil. But it was not the main reason behind it. If you dont remember, these bastards flew fucking airplanes into the world trade tower, which so happened to have my cousin inside. He is dead now because of this.

Saddam and Iraq aren't the ones who took credit for the world trade center. Suppsedly Osama Bin Laden is the one to blame for this. I believe that he is from Afganistan. And even so, this may not be the real truth. It could all be some fucked up Bush conspiracy. There is another thread on this site that sends you to a video that sums up the entire conspiracy, pretty convincingly too.

[this_is_bullshit]

Saddam and Iraq aren't the ones who took credit for the world trade center. Suppsedly Osama Bin Laden is the one to blame for this. I believe that he is from Afganistan. And even so, this may not be the real truth. It could all be some fucked up Bush conspiracy. There is another thread on this site that sends you to a video that sums up the entire conspiracy, pretty convincingly too.


I can't be arsed to look, link plzx!

[RangerMWilhite]

we're in afghanistan too dipshit... both of them said they want us destroyed. Next Iran, then Korea, then someone else... We all need to realize is that this is our final fight, nuclear war is just around the corner. At least i think. And i would rather do it to help these people be free. A Prime minister has been elected and he is working towards a national government. That is where we screwed up last time. Now there can be at least a little balance and order. One problem i do have however, is that some of our ALLIES actually do this shit too (kill women and children, torture prisoners, etc.), and i dont see why we cant fix that, but fuck it, im not high enough in command to do anything about it. Not only that, but i remember when everyone was backing the war... Its original approval rating was like 93%... Look, all im saying is, once you make a decision, stick with it. Stop flip flopping around dammit. Our next president will more than likely be democratic anyway... Just hopefully not Hillary...

The less people with nukes, the better. And the diff. b/w us having nukes and iran having nukes is that they are crazy enough to use them. Not that i think we should have them either. I personally think none of them should exist. The president of iran thinks that when he starts a nuclear war, a prophet will come down from heaven and save him and all muslims. Most the muslims i talk to over here think that hes crazy too, but fear uprising against him, because they'll be killed. And when i said china secretly hates us, do you understand now. They are giving aid to iran, who said they would bomb us, right after they bomb israel. When i get back, i would like to start a family, not worry about uclear fall-out. And if i dont get back, at least i know i died trying. You have to see it from different points of view, and i see yours, and thats what i used to believe, until i got here. And i dont hate any of you, hell i'll even invite you to my birthday party... Come to Iraq, my 21st birthday is on the 20th. There will be plenty of MRE's and water. lol

[RangerMWilhite]

Our own reasons were horrible! A leading reason was that Iraq's government was so corrupt that it needed us to step in and overthrow it to make it acceptable. If we thought this, then why didn't the other countries in the world agree? That's why the voice of the UN needed to be a major deciding factor on whether or not the war was to be started.


Alot of countries try to be more POLITICALLY CORRECT than to be CORRECT. There is a difference, and its what is wrong with our country today. On both sides. Democrats and republicans are so scared they wont get reelected because of certain things they wont do anything about the subject becasue they dont want to piss anyone off... They need to start pointing out solutions to the problems, not just the problems, everyone can see that... Plus, the UN consist of five countries that are more "powerful" than the other countries in it: US, UK, France, Russia, and China. If and ONE of the countries opposes, then it does not go through. personally, i think it was the french.

"The british officers coats are red, so in case they got shot, the soldiers under them would not se the blood and friek out... Guess what color the French officers pants are??? Brown..."

[this_is_bullshit]

we're in afghanistan too dipshit... both of them said they want us destroyed. Next Iran, then Korea, then someone else... We all need to realize is that this is our final fight, nuclear war is just around the corner. At least i think. And i would rather do it to help these people be free. A Prime minister has been elected and he is working towards a national government. That is where we screwed up last time. Now there can be at least a little balance and order. One problem i do have however, is that some of our ALLIES actually do this shit too (kill women and children, torture prisoners, etc.), and i dont see why we cant fix that, but fuck it, im not high enough in command to do anything about it. Not only that, but i remember when everyone was backing the war... Its original approval rating was like 93%... Look, all im saying is, once you make a decision, stick with it. Stop flip flopping around dammit. Our next president will more than likely be democratic anyway... Just hopefully not Hillary...



Ya tell that to our president, el fucko the tard shit.

[Paisleyspeaker]

Ranger Dude,
Sweetie I have'nt seen someone so right and so wrong all at once in a long time. You are right that we have to finish the job now that we are there, our bailout right after the soviets in Afganistan is what fueled the fires against us there. But my friend, Bush should never have put you in Iraq. We had options availble that didn't involve our soilders losing their lives. I do support our troops, I have friends and family over in the sandbox, and thats why I feel I need to question whats going on. We need a damn good reason, a better one than we had, to risk you guys. A volunteer army depends on you trusting us. If we were reacting honestly to the attacks on 9/11 (sorry about your cousin, a friend of mine was in tower 2, but escaped) we would be at odds with Saudi Arabia , thats were Bin Laden is from, and most the men on the planes as well. Your intentions may be true but those of the people who sent you there aren't what they are saying on the news. Read the Neoconservative manifesto Plan for a New America and talk to me again. There are a group of rich bastards who want to use our armed forces for economic gain ( theirs not the USA"s) and W and his cronies are all neo-cons. Yeah I know , but I am not talking about secret meetings in shadowy halls. These and other groups exist, and usually eventually fail, because they overestimate their influence and power.

[dekrantenjongen]

I am new here.
It seems as if noone has yet heard of the FACT that the government of the USA was behind the 911 so called terrorist's attacks.

So many purely technical facts have been laid out in such a way that one can clearly see that this is the ultimate act of Terror, yet on it's own population.

This only to have a reason to invade Afghanistan and Irak.

All fucking lies lies lies lies lies.

please google on "911 lies"

[dekrantenjongen]

RMW,
jezus christ, who's the fucking dipshit. You are a blind, stupid indoctrinated asshole. It's people like you who gets the whole fucking world into war. Leave us the fuck out!

"Bladiebla...bullshit.....nuclear war around the corner." . You sound like a fucking government agent trying to scare peoople into voting for power seeking bastards like Bush.

Since the 2nd WW all of your asshole brothers were afraid of and reacting to "a nuclear threat". Then other assholes in the 80ies said that actually this warhead building competition actually kept peace, since no one shot one fucking missile off.

You think Iran will shoot one missile? You dumb fuck. Your bastard president will just flattten all of Iran with several missiles.

BIN LADEN FIRST REACTION TO 911 WAS: I DID NOT DO IT! HE NEVER TOOK CREDIT FOR IT!!!!!! (he would have taken credit for it if it was his work).

Your war is unjust. Accept it and move on from there. I guess it will be very exhausting and unsettling to realize that all of your life and your parents' lives have stuck to the rules of the leaders who are fucking with ya today!!!!!!!

Jeeeezus man, I am so sick and tired of this ignorant American bull shit.
:mad:
The problem is that you live on stolen land and lost all connection to your civilized roots in Europe.:eek:

Please give me some american soldiers to make a pile of rotting flesh around my bullets....
oh yeah...and to the soldiers from my own country that loose their lives in this 'war': "serves ya fuckin' right, assholes".

[freakazoid]

I am new here.
It seems as if noone has yet heard of the FACT that the government of the USA was behind the 911 so called terrorist's attacks.

So many purely technical facts have been laid out in such a way that one can clearly see that this is the ultimate act of Terror, yet on it's own population.

This only to have a reason to invade Afghanistan and Irak.

All fucking lies lies lies lies lies.

please google on "911 lies"
RE: "It seems as if noone has yet heard of the FACT that the government of the USA was behind the 911 so called terrorist's attacks."

Prove it. Prove your so-called "FACT."

[dekrantenjongen]

watch "loose change 911". Replay if you're too stupid.

[General Septem]

LC911 isn't the best video out there. It's good for getting one's mind open, but the real discussions are in these videos:

http://www.universalseed.org/main.asp

I'd reccomend the David Ray Griffin videos.

[freakazoid]

watch "loose change 911". Replay if you're too stupid.
I have watched it, it's bullshit. Now you watch...

-Screw Loose Change-

Part one, two and three...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1506026976066602012&q=loose+change&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1704985757029288892&q=loose+change&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8331615143873106815&q=loose+change&hl=en


Enjoy!

PS, Oh yeah; replay if you're too stupid.

[assholius]

The 9/11 terrorists were muslim fundies(and possibly some mercanaries that didn't know they were "martyring" themselves). Saddam was a secular dictator,the only reason he even tolerated religion was because he knew he couldn't wipe it out.

Bush has had a hard on for Iraq from the get go,remember "axis of evil"?

A lot of people seem to forget,the first Gulf War never completely ended.The US Air Force continued to fly sorties over Iraq,Saddam was never allowed to control his own airspace after that.Iraq was not a threat to us.

That this smirking piece of shit used his own debacle of a war as a campaign platform,and was reelected is mind boggling to me.


I hope W lives to be 110,so when the kids born today are old enough to ask why we have to support a country that hates us,he can tell them why this was so important