A tribute to real feminists.

[General Septem]

I'm not talking about the hairy femme bull-dykes who want to be called "womyn", hate men, think they can do whatever the hell they want, etc. I'm tlaking about the real feminists, like Susan B. Anthony. You may or may not know this, but she was very actively pro-life. She tried to advance women as women, embracing the differences between men and women and bringing out the woman's finest traits - most of which are maternal instincts. She was against abortion because she knew that even if a man would violently rape a woman and impregnate her against her will, that a woman can rise higher than that, not perpetuating the violence. She knew that having a child concieved by rape is the ultimate display of not only getting over the rape, but turning it around and shoving it right back in the rapist's face.

So here's to Susan B. Anthony, Feminists for Life, and others like them - I'm sorry these hairy bull-dyke "feminists" had to ruin your name.

[Archangel]

So here's to Susan B. Anthony, Feminists for Life, and others like them - I'm sorry these hairy bull-dyke "feminists" had to ruin your name.

FUCK YOU!!! Most people dismis feminist but they have excelled womems rights in ways you will never understand and believe me, being 'prolife' illiminates you from ever being a feminist. It is Susan B (incidentally does her inicial stand for bullshit?) Anthony that has ruined LIFE for many opressed woman. They should have stuck a cock on her womanhood and called her George Bush jr!

[General Septem]

FUCK YOU!!! Most people dismis feminist but they have excelled womems rights in ways you will never understand and believe me, being 'prolife' illiminates you from ever being a feminist. It is Susan B (incidentally does her inicial stand for bullshit?) Anthony that has ruined LIFE for many opressed woman. They should have stuck a cock on her womanhood and called her George Bush jr!

Well I see you're obviously not credible in the least.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

being 'prolife' illiminates you from ever being a feminist.

So you're saying that a defining trait of feminists is the lust for killing other humans? That's definately not a feature of yourself that you should be proud of.

[Nobody]

FUCK YOU!!! Most people dismis feminist but they have excelled womems rights in ways you will never understand and believe me, being 'prolife' illiminates you from ever being a feminist. It is Susan B (incidentally does her inicial stand for bullshit?) Anthony that has ruined LIFE for many opressed woman. They should have stuck a cock on her womanhood and called her George Bush jr!
That could be possible. Take a look at Janet Reno. They've done an excellent job at disquising who she use to be.....................The missing 'Jimmy Hoffa'

[Dan The Man]

feminist are bout as bad as tree huggerz,i think thier all full o' shit...If womEn are so got damn special then why were we, 'men' here first?

[Paisleyspeaker]

Real feminists don't hate men. Real feminists shave their legs, not because they have to , but because they want to, if your proud of being a woman, why would you want to look like a man. Yes a woman should have control over her reproductive system. But a real woman takes responsibility for herself. You don't have to have sex, we in this country can get birthcontrol (although we do pay more than we should). As a mother I often resent the implication of some in the pro-choice movement that being pregnant is something that is to be avoided, that it lessens a woman. As a woman I resent the idea that I have to have the option of murdering my offspring because I can't control getting pregnant. Sorry to put it so bluntly, but that is what it is. Rather than invoke religion I will simply say at only seven weeks pregnant, I heard my daughters heartbeat. She was alive, as alive as she is today at three years.
As a woman I also belive that those caustic idiots that stand outside of clinics are wasteing their passions and making the pro-life movements look like hateful zealots. How about instead of pelting tormented women with fetuses, you help communities provide birth control. Or offer help, pregnancy testing, adoption referals and help with the nessescities for women who choose to keep a suprise baby.
Archangel a feminist can be pro-life. I am proud to be a woman, like I said I have a daughter. I will hold her to a high standard. I will consider her intelligent enough to control her fertility, I will teach her about her options and the importance of consistency. I consider myself pro-life and pro-woman. I refuse to believe that we are so frivilous that we cant' control our fertility. And in the unfortuate cercumstance of rape, or when an unknowable dire health issues, most pro-life individuals see the need for an option. We shouldn't aim low just because we are women. Yes generations before us have fought hard to find their place in the work force. To level the playing field so we can too. A while all that happened the things that were traditionaly women's work became discounted. We wanted to do something else so bad , we shit on the importance of what we already did. Yes we now have freedoms, but not without cost. It used to be repectable to enoy and excell at caring for and nurturing your family. Now I feel like a throwback, and can feel the woman my age shaking their heads like they feel sorry for me. Yes I am a house wife and I am tired of making excuses for it. I have found nothing as fufilling as being a mother.

[Paisleyspeaker]

Dan the man,
You started out life as a female, everyone does. Your "manhood" didn't develop until your mother was almost three months pregnant.
If woman aren't so special why is everything man does not dircectly related to basic survival or religion done for the benefit ot or to attract women? Women were created because men needed them.

[silvery moon]

Whether man or woman came first is like the chicken and the egg. We just don't know. Though it is true that everybody's a woman for three months. First comes X, then comes Y or X

"She was against abortion because she knew that even if a man would violently rape a woman and impregnate her against her will, that a woman can rise higher than that, not perpetuating the violence. She knew that having a child concieved by rape is the ultimate display of not only getting over the rape, but turning it around and shoving it right back in the rapist's face"

Not all women think like Susan B. Anthony. To her, keeping a child when being raped, is like shoving it right back in the rapist's face. But others may disagree and take it differently.
I think a woman should definately be able to have an abortion if she's raped.

[General Septem]

Dan the man,
You started out life as a female, everyone does. Your "manhood" didn't develop until your mother was almost three months pregnant.
Femininity has to do with whether or not one has a penis? I always thought it had to do with the chromosomes, and they're determined at fertilization.

Actually the vulva doesn't develop until right around when the penis does in males. Before then it's just a flap of skin.

[Paisleyspeaker]

true that all sexual organs delevelop at the same rate. Research into the genetics has brought forward a hypothesis. That there are really six "genders" three for each physical sex. The girly, neutral, and manly versions of each. And they have also put forward that there is a male brain and female brain. That each use diffrent parts in a diffrent fashion.

[General Septem]

true that all sexual organs delevelop at the same rate. Research into the genetics has brought forward a hypothesis. That there are really six "genders" three for each physical sex. The girly, neutral, and manly versions of each. And they have also put forward that there is a male brain and female brain. That each use diffrent parts in a diffrent fashion.

See? And a lot of feminists - the crazy ones - would accuse you of being hateful for saying there's any difference at all. :D

[Paisleyspeaker]

I think that there is a generational diffrence in feminists.

One cannot forget the suffragettes that fought for over a hundred years for women's right to vote.
Then there is the generation we know best Gloria Stienam, Betty Fridan and their ilk. They were angry, and it is hard for us to imagine why , because we don't live in the world they did. I know I didn't and most of you are younger than me. We think it's no big deal, we have that luxury because of the work they did. When the womans movment started there was no charge for marialal rape. W oman had no legal right to say no to her husband. For many generations tha abuse of women was a perfectly legal part of the system. Thats where the "rule of thumb" comes from. It was legal to beat your wife with a stick, as long as it was no thicker round than your thumb. Without the ability to hold a job, there was no way out of a marriage. And not marrying was not as easy opition. Birth control when it became widely available was fought tooth and nail against. It was a stuggle, no one ever gives up power easily, they had to be angry. I am just confused at some of the things they were angry at.

[beelzebub]

Whether man or woman came first is like the chicken and the egg. We just don't know. Though it is true that everybody's a woman for three months. First comes X, then comes Y or X

The introduction of diecious organisms came about from the development of sexual reproduction. The first sexually reproducing organisms were hermaphrodites (monecious) through time organisms that were one of the two sexes (dioecious) developed.

Therefore we do know who came first... the hermaphrodite! In other words both sexes arose simultaneously as a result of the development of sexual reproduction.

The development of sexual organs as an indication of sexual preeminence is an absurd idea. From the very moment of conception the developing zygote is either male or female because the sperm gave either an X or a Y to the egg (which only can have an X from the mother). In the male the Y chromosome doesn't "Turn On" until later which causes maturation of the male genitals.

This means that we are not women first and then turn into males. We are males first that have "female-like" genitals that later develop into male genitals (unless you are BBO or GS in which case there is minimal growth & devlopment)

[silvery moon]

The first thing I'm gonna do tomorrow is slap my biology teacher ^^
Gheghe, no, but really, thanks for clearing that out for me

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

We are males first that have "female-like" genitals that later develop into male genitals (unless you are BBO or GS)


That's right, because we are so awesomely advanced, physically and mentally that we were always men....straight from conception!

[Paisleyspeaker]

Definitioin of conciet
Brains behind the operation floating upstream on his back, with a hrd on screaming "open Drawbridge"

I bet next you'll say you can last for more than 4 minutes too.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Definitioin of conciet
Brains behind the operation floating upstream on his back, with a hrd on screaming "open Drawbridge"

I bet next you'll say you can last for more than 4 minutes too.

Calm down and take a midol....I was just taking advantage of Bubba's insult and turning it into a compliment. I don't understand why he feels the need to insult GS and myself every chance he gets, but I try to make the best of it.

[Paisleyspeaker]

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[Brains_Behind_Operation]

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[Paisleyspeaker]

I'm sure you do

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Sire, you do me

[Paisleyspeaker]

Is that a...? are you...? ;)

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

No, I don't think so anyways.....it was just an anagram of what you had said. Things were not making much sense, so I decided to keep the trend going

[Paisleyspeaker]

I did'nt look for an anagram. And isn't wasn't making much sense to me either. If they were an anagram where did you get the I from? Didn't mean to get too mean back there, just there is this little devil in me, that when she sees any level of puffery, gets out her pin. I had a stressful day and jabbed a little too hard.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

If they were an anagram where did you get the I from?


Go back and read your post just before it. You'll find that the first letter is an 'I'.

[Paisleyspeaker]

no silly the I in ite she. and the s for that matter.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

That wasn't an anagram. In that post I was just adding to the gibberish by turning your He into a She and then decided to add a letter to your Te in the same mathematical fashion.

~S is one away from the T beginning in the word ahead of it, so the I is equally one away from the H beginning in the word following~

Probably didn't make much sense to you....but that's the way that my mind was working at the time. :rolleyes: And works most of the time :D

[Paisleyspeaker]

It wasn't gibberish, but me forgetting the whole world doesn't know all my in jokes. In my house te he is the blonde laugh, instead of haha, a stupid little laugh of te he. But like I said that is an in joke.

[General Septem]

It wasn't gibberish, but me forgetting the whole world doesn't know all my in jokes. In my house te he is the blonde laugh, instead of haha, a stupid little laugh of te he. But like I said that is an in joke.
So by "te he", you were alluding to your misinterpretation of BBO's post?

[Paisleyspeaker]

Yes :)
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[Ausinus]

Real feminists are like Simone de Beauvior and Germaine Greer.