A question for Walter

[General Septem]

Is it true that the Jews believe the Messiah will arrive on the day on which not a single act of violence is made between humans?

[Loseirdo]

Is it true that the Jews believe the Messiah will arrive on the day on which not a single act of violence is made between humans?

That would be strange, since I thought the Jews were expecting the Messiah to be a warrior king who would liberate them (from the Romans), which is why they got so pissed off at Jesus for being so nice (while claiming He was the Messiah).

[General Septem]

That would be strange, since I thought the Jews were expecting the Messiah to be a warrior king who would liberate them (from the Romans), which is why they got so pissed off at Jesus for being so nice (while claiming He was the Messiah).

I found it strange too, for the same reason. It was something I heard in Church yesterday so I figured I'd ask.

[WhiteRaven]

according to this site (http://www.jewfaq.org/moshiach.htm)


In general, it is believed that the moshiach will come in a time when he is most needed (because the world is so sinful), or in a time when he is most deserved (because the world is so good).

So evidently some believe that and others believe it will be when every human interaction is a violent one. But I'm curious about Walter's answer, too...

[Walter Weiss]

Is it true that the Jews believe the Messiah will arrive on the day on which not a single act of violence is made between humans?

No one has ever told me that. But I will ask.

[bullfighter]

if the saudies and the u.s and the jews had something to do with 911,there is to many things smoking in the whole thing[one thing i know for sure it was more then ben laden[even if he had anything to do with it]in the way we think

[Walter Weiss]

if the saudies and the u.s and the jews had something to do with 911,there is to many things smoking in the whole thing[one thing i know for sure it was more then ben laden[even if he had anything to do with it]in the way we think


You have to be joking, right?

1. Two planes struck the towers.
2. Both planes were hijacked.
3. Ticket agents identified the hijackers
4. Aviation schools identified the hijackers
5. Bin Laden openly and joyously admitted and detailed his plot for all
6. Bin Laden even said that the results surpassed his expectations
7. There were already arrest warrants for Bin Laden that Clinton declined to serve, and those warrants were for Bin Laden planting bombs that exploded in the basements of the towers previously, resulting in some deaths, but no collapse.
8. Bin Laden joyously and openly admitted and detailed his plot for the bombs
9. The towers fell, and the USA rounded up support, and attacked Afghanistan, purging it's criminal terrorist government to rid the world of scum.
10. You come along and champion the scum that attacked USA
11. You forget that the demorats wanted the war with Afghanistan, and even that communist bitch Hillary personally voted to attack Afghanistan.
12. To attack Afghanistan, we already had sufficient provocation without the towers collapsing, but two Presidents - Demorat and Republican attempted to negotiate away the conflict in the interest of Peace.....yet Afghanistan attacked us again anyway....and openly admitted the attack, and expressed joy over the success of the attack. Still the USA did not run out and attack them...the USA asked for opinions from numerous other countries....and the unanimous opinion was WAR!

You obviously WANT something so bad to be true, you are willing to convince yourself it is true when and to the degree that you even violate your own religious code by giving false witness against George Bush for your own quasi-religio fantasy or conquering the USA through subversion. You have convinced yourself that it is no sin to give false witness against another provided that you hate him first, and hate the political party for which he serves. Just because you hate someone or hate a particular political movement, doesnt mean it is correct and moral and ethical to throw out the rules. You want to conquer that which you hate so badly, that you are willing to engage in any activity to attempt it. This is called terrorism in anyone's book, and you inadvertantly label yourself a terrorist sympathizer in the process, thus destroying your credibility. If you are truly religious, you will recognize your own blasphemy, and consider the fact that in the world of Islam, and / or the Judaeo-Christian world, you may have just sacrificed your own soul in doing it.

You are fit to conquer nothing, for you have not even mastered the art of obedience and dedication to yourself and to basic principles of truth. When you conquer yourself, and remove your tendency to perpetuate falsehoods for your own self gratification, then you will be ready to take some steps toward more enlightenment and increased intellectual powers.

Until that time, please think about what it is you are saying and doing. I do not hate you....I do not dislike you....but I do find what you are doing to be reprehensible. In most religious circles, Judgement for such acts belongs to GOD, YAWEH, ALLAH or by whatever name you call your GOD this week. I will tell you that I am worried as to what that judgement will be for you in the end.

I wish you good fortune....but I dont think you will find much of it on the path you have chosen.

[bullfighter]

You have to be joking, right?

1. Two planes struck the towers.
2. Both planes were hijacked.
3. Ticket agents identified the hijackers
4. Aviation schools identified the hijackers
5. Bin Laden openly and joyously admitted and detailed his plot for all
6. Bin Laden even said that the results surpassed his expectations
7. There were already arrest warrants for Bin Laden that Clinton declined to serve, and those warrants were for Bin Laden planting bombs that exploded in the basements of the towers previously, resulting in some deaths, but no collapse.
8. Bin Laden joyously and openly admitted and detailed his plot for the bombs
9. The towers fell, and the USA rounded up support, and attacked Afghanistan, purging it's criminal terrorist government to rid the world of scum.
10. You come along and champion the scum that attacked USA
11. You forget that the demorats wanted the war with Afghanistan, and even that communist bitch Hillary personally voted to attack Afghanistan.
12. To attack Afghanistan, we already had sufficient provocation without the towers collapsing, but two Presidents - Demorat and Republican attempted to negotiate away the conflict in the interest of Peace.....yet Afghanistan attacked us again anyway....and openly admitted the attack, and expressed joy over the success of the attack. Still the USA did not run out and attack them...the USA asked for opinions from numerous other countries....and the unanimous opinion was WAR!

You obviously WANT something so bad to be true, you are willing to convince yourself it is true when and to the degree that you even violate your own religious code by giving false witness against George Bush for your own quasi-religio fantasy or conquering the USA through subversion. You have convinced yourself that it is no sin to give false witness against another provided that you hate him first, and hate the political party for which he serves. Just because you hate someone or hate a particular political movement, doesnt mean it is correct and moral and ethical to throw out the rules. You want to conquer that which you hate so badly, that you are willing to engage in any activity to attempt it. This is called terrorism in anyone's book, and you inadvertantly label yourself a terrorist sympathizer in the process, thus destroying your credibility. If you are truly religious, you will recognize your own blasphemy, and consider the fact that in the world of Islam, and / or the Judaeo-Christian world, you may have just sacrificed your own soul in doing it.

You are fit to conquer nothing, for you have not even mastered the art of obedience and dedication to yourself and to basic principles of truth. When you conquer yourself, and remove your tendency to perpetuate falsehoods for your own self gratification, then you will be ready to take some steps toward more enlightenment and increased intellectual powers.

Until that time, please think about what it is you are saying and doing. I do not hate you....I do not dislike you....but I do find what you are doing to be reprehensible. In most religious circles, Judgement for such acts belongs to GOD, YAWEH, ALLAH or by whatever name you call your GOD this week. I will tell you that I am worried as to what that judgement will be for you in the end.

I wish you good fortune....but I dont think you will find much of it on the path you have chosen.

all i said was i would not be surprised if the sadies and jews had something to do with it ,and that bin never did in the way we think,.and i never heard him talk responcibility for it in any way ,can you till me where and when he did this..i am not saying he had nothing to do with it ,just not in the way we may tink..i don't give credit to the enemy,i just not to fast to say who the enemy is.......you may forget ....but i can till you 1000 times ,i am not making this up WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HIT NEW YORK,WALL STREET........TO CREATE A WAR WITH THE MUSLIMS...one year four months before it happened...do not disc this with some bullshit answer.....so as i seen things happen from lie to lie ,i can say i wonder who had something to do with it..........i will read your post more ,i just want you to see where i am comming from....not fuced in the head,not protecting them that kill..my big issue was the killing of woman and children that we are a part of...i don't care who is right or left here

[bullfighter]

You have to be joking, right?

1. Two planes struck the towers.
2. Both planes were hijacked.
3. Ticket agents identified the hijackers
4. Aviation schools identified the hijackers
5. Bin Laden openly and joyously admitted and detailed his plot for all
6. Bin Laden even said that the results surpassed his expectations
7. There were already arrest warrants for Bin Laden that Clinton declined to serve, and those warrants were for Bin Laden planting bombs that exploded in the basements of the towers previously, resulting in some deaths, but no collapse.
8. Bin Laden joyously and openly admitted and detailed his plot for the bombs
9. The towers fell, and the USA rounded up support, and attacked Afghanistan, purging it's criminal terrorist government to rid the world of scum.
10. You come along and champion the scum that attacked USA
11. You forget that the demorats wanted the war with Afghanistan, and even that communist bitch Hillary personally voted to attack Afghanistan.
12. To attack Afghanistan, we already had sufficient provocation without the towers collapsing, but two Presidents - Demorat and Republican attempted to negotiate away the conflict in the interest of Peace.....yet Afghanistan attacked us again anyway....and openly admitted the attack, and expressed joy over the success of the attack. Still the USA did not run out and attack them...the USA asked for opinions from numerous other countries....and the unanimous opinion was WAR!

You obviously WANT something so bad to be true, you are willing to convince yourself it is true when and to the degree that you even violate your own religious code by giving false witness against George Bush for your own quasi-religio fantasy or conquering the USA through subversion. You have convinced yourself that it is no sin to give false witness against another provided that you hate him first, and hate the political party for which he serves. Just because you hate someone or hate a particular political movement, doesnt mean it is correct and moral and ethical to throw out the rules. You want to conquer that which you hate so badly, that you are willing to engage in any activity to attempt it. This is called terrorism in anyone's book, and you inadvertantly label yourself a terrorist sympathizer in the process, thus destroying your credibility. If you are truly religious, you will recognize your own blasphemy, and consider the fact that in the world of Islam, and / or the Judaeo-Christian world, you may have just sacrificed your own soul in doing it.

You are fit to conquer nothing, for you have not even mastered the art of obedience and dedication to yourself and to basic principles of truth. When you conquer yourself, and remove your tendency to perpetuate falsehoods for your own self gratification, then you will be ready to take some steps toward more enlightenment and increased intellectual powers.

Until that time, please think about what it is you are saying and doing. I do not hate you....I do not dislike you....but I do find what you are doing to be reprehensible. In most religious circles, Judgement for such acts belongs to GOD, YAWEH, ALLAH or by whatever name you call your GOD this week. I will tell you that I am worried as to what that judgement will be for you in the end.

I wish you good fortune....but I dont think you will find much of it on the path you have chosen.

i am seeing things not so simple,all what you said ,has been to convienent to create the belief we are suppose to have...i think there may be more to the truth then that,thats all...and for the most part to much death has come of it

[bullfighter]

i am seeing things not so simple,all what you said ,has been to convienent to create the belief we are suppose to have...i think there may be more to the truth then that,thats all...and for the most part to much death has come of it

who back bush to go into irac...sure we were to go after bin in afgan. why was the mission so convenitly changed to fight the tilliban and occupy afgan.why did canada so convenitly change there mission.to keep that area in check while us went into irac.....i have seen what you saw,it is not that simple..why is it so hard for you to believe there might be anougther agenda here....YOU ARE TIRED OF REPLYING TO ME THAT IS FINE ,I AM TIRED OF IT ALSO...I JUST SEE MORE AND MORE PROOF THAT THERE IS MORE THEN WHAT IS ON THE SURFICE.....I DO NOT HELP THE ENEMY ,I DO NOT UPHOLD THE TERROIST,OR THINK TO PROTECT THE EVIL ..I HAVE A OPEN MIND TO WHAT I HAVE SEEN.....

[WhiteRaven]

Whether the intent was good or ill, Iraq will fare far better in America's hands.

[decipleofdarkness]

Cuntrees doent hav hans stooped.

[Walter Weiss]

all i said was i would not be surprised if the sadies and jews had something to do with it ,and that bin never did in the way we think,.and i never heard him talk responcibility for it in any way ,can you till me where and when he did this..i am not saying he had nothing to do with it ,just not in the way we may tink..i don't give credit to the enemy,i just not to fast to say who the enemy is.......you may forget ....but i can till you 1000 times ,i am not making this up WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HIT NEW YORK,WALL STREET........TO CREATE A WAR WITH THE MUSLIMS...one year four months before it happened...do not disc this with some bullshit answer.....so as i seen things happen from lie to lie ,i can say i wonder who had something to do with it..........i will read your post more ,i just want you to see where i am comming from....not fuced in the head,not protecting them that kill..my big issue was the killing of woman and children that we are a part of...i don't care who is right or left here

BooBoo....is this just another sick joke? Bin Laden was televised....taking responsibility for the attack. He even said it was prophesied that he would be the man that brought the towers down! He even said "expectations were exceeded" in that the attack was more successful than he imagined it would have been. Millions of people watched him. He was on radio. He was on television. It was well publicized. Even a bunch of Christian bible thumpers screeching about some sort of bible code said they found in the "code" in biblical writings coded verse on the man who would bring the towers down.

The Saudis? Give me a break! USA is the top oil customer for the Saudi. The Saudi wants nothing to happen to that arrangement. When Bin Laden took credit for the towers, his own family (Bin Laden is a Saudi...not an Afghani...he merely made himself a sort of King of Afghanistan) denouced his act, and disowned him. Bin Laden was an Engineer, and owner of a large construction company! He knew how to drop those towers, once he studied the structures. His family sent him away long before the towers, because he had an unhealthy interest in terrorism!

Prior knowledge of the attack? Let me tell you about prior knowledge. We get alerts daily of plots to attack things in this country, and on it's bases abroad. We get alerts of planned attacks on Wall Street every single day....thousands....and we often think it will be the stock exchange via computer virus. Many of these attack threats are made to cause terror. We even get threats on the milk, on the beef, on the corn, on bottled water. We get threats on the municipal water supply, threats on the ocean. Threats on power plants. IT IS WHY we maintain fighter planes on alert status around the country, and we maintain troops that can be air-lifted. It is why we have swat teams, cops, guards, agents, etc, etc, etc. It is so easy for a bunch of demorat scum that want to gain control of the USA government to exploit these thousands of threats that come in. Litterally thousands of them! For that matter, when Bin Laden set off bombs in the basements of the towers, arrest warrants were issued for him. CIA and FBI had several opportunities to have him arrested, and Clinton said NO! NO! NO! for personal reasons that Clinton had! Bin Laden was allowed to go free to offend once again! Eight people died outright in the bombing. Later, in the airplane attacks on the towers, many, many, more would die.

No matter what gets attacked, you will have a bunch of Hillary types that will exploit it to try to blame a Republican for it. It is the Demorats that spit on soldiers. It is the demorats that burn American flags. It was a Demorat...later elected Sendator....that defecated on the Whitehouse lawn, and then used an American flag to cleanse himself. It is the demorats that follow communism. It is the demorats that started WW-1, Korea, Vietnam, Jugoslavian wars. It is the demorats that organized anarchy in the streets of this country that resulted in many losing their lives in reckless anarchy. It is the demorat that operates under this fale veil of Peace. It is the demorat that started slavery. It was the demorat that broke this country in half and started a confederate government, and started a war that threatened to end the USA forever. It is the demorat that exploited minorities in ghettos for big block votes. It is the demorat under whose watch organized crime flourished in this country. It was at the command of the demorat that the world's top terrorist - that already murdered innocent citizens in a bombing attack on the towers - was allowed to go free from the arrest warrants. It was a demorat that very quickly pointed the finger at Bush and falsely accused him of organizing the attack, in order to minimize the guilt the demorat had in allowing the criminal to go free to re-offend once again! It was a demorat that refused to arrest Noriega, and stop the flow of cocaine into this country. It was a demorat that refused to stop the flow of drugs into USA out of Mexico and Columbia.

When the demorat camp - as we know it today - ceases to be what it is today....only then will World Peace be much easier. It is time for a change, and it is time to use the military to end the reign of the tyrants that thrive on murder and terrorism, because innocents are being oppressed, and the world will suffer threats of nuclear bombs in a terrorist hand!

[WhiteRaven]

Hasn't anyone ever told you not to run away from your problems, Bullfighter? You have to face problems, If you are hunting and a predator attacks you, running is pointless, shooting the predator will kill it. Terrorists aren't really predators, but the same rule applies. You have to shoot them.

[bullfighter]

Hasn't anyone ever told you not to run away from your problems, Bullfighter? You have to face problems, If you are hunting and a predator attacks you, running is pointless, shooting the predator will kill it. Terrorists aren't really predators, but the same rule applies. You have to shoot them.

TILL ME TO WHO'S ADVANTAGE WOULD BE A GREAT WAR WITH THE MULINS,PLEASE NO SMART ASS ANSWERS....WHO IS SCARED OF THE IRAC,IRAN ,AFGAN.SERRIA AREA...I AM NOT LOOKING FOR JUSTIFICATION HERE,ONLY WHO WOULD BENIFIT FROM THIS AREA BEING CONTROLED........PLEASE DO NOT SAY THAT I AM A TERROIST SYMPATHIZER BECAUSE I SEE THINGS DIFFERENT THEN YOU....THIS GOUVERMENT HAS THE RIGTH TO CALL PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY CIVILIAN TERROIST IF THEY PROTEST AND SOME ONE ADGITATES THEM TO VIOLIENCE..THERE IS COVER UPS AFTER COVER UPS GOING ON..I JUST SEE A CRIMINAL ELEMENT IN HIGH PLACES THAT IS IN MANY FORMS OF GOUVERMENT ALL AROUND THE WORLD....BY THE WAY WHO IS HUNTING YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO BE SO AFRAID...DON'T GIVE ME THE 911 CRAP THAT WAS YEARS AGO

[WhiteRaven]

No one is hunting me now, that I know of... But there is no guarantee that 911 will never happen again, and even if it doesn't, there will be other attacks.

No government can avoid becoming corrupt forever, corruption is a fact of life.

[Walter Weiss]

Hasn't anyone ever told you not to run away from your problems, Bullfighter? You have to face problems, If you are hunting and a predator attacks you, running is pointless, shooting the predator will kill it. Terrorists aren't really predators, but the same rule applies. You have to shoot them.

I salute you....you have said so much in so few words! Brevity has always been a big problem for me in writing!!!

[Walter Weiss]

TILL ME TO WHO'S ADVANTAGE WOULD BE A GREAT WAR WITH THE MULINS,PLEASE NO SMART ASS ANSWERS....WHO IS SCARED OF THE IRAC,IRAN ,AFGAN.SERRIA AREA...I AM NOT LOOKING FOR JUSTIFICATION HERE,ONLY WHO WOULD BENIFIT FROM THIS AREA BEING CONTROLED........PLEASE DO NOT SAY THAT I AM A TERROIST SYMPATHIZER BECAUSE I SEE THINGS DIFFERENT THEN YOU....THIS GOUVERMENT HAS THE RIGTH TO CALL PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY CIVILIAN TERROIST IF THEY PROTEST AND SOME ONE ADGITATES THEM TO VIOLIENCE..THERE IS COVER UPS AFTER COVER UPS GOING ON..I JUST SEE A CRIMINAL ELEMENT IN HIGH PLACES THAT IS IN MANY FORMS OF GOUVERMENT ALL AROUND THE WORLD....BY THE WAY WHO IS HUNTING YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO BE SO AFRAID...DON'T GIVE ME THE 911 CRAP THAT WAS YEARS AGO


The entire world will benefit from a war with a tyranical terrorist entity. This is not a war against Muslims for being Muslims! This is a war against oppressors radical enough to inflict death on the innocent masses to make a simple political statement. We now find ourselves in an age of advanced technology that can be applied to weapons to make them powerful enough to destroy entire Cities in the blink of an eye. This sort of technology is falling into the hands of the idiot terrorist groups who hide behind excuses that they create from Quranic surrah and verse....this war is nothing more than that. If you have a problem with this war, then dont fight in it. Dont expect us to sit idly by and allow you to denounce our efforts to provide a safe environment for all to live in, and an environment in which the common man and woman have a right to nominate and vote their government into being, and to remove it when it is corrupt. If you are so against that, then there is nothing else left for you to be in this world but a terrorist sympathizer! Your sympathy belongs with the innocent masses....not with the terrorists!

[bullfighter]

I salute you....you have said so much in so few words! Brevity has always been a big problem for me in writing!!!

SO WHY IS IT SO HARD TO SEE bigger plans at play HERE then what we the people get TO HEAR,we have always been lied to.when it comes to food ,chemical harm in the work place.....the corperate interest has always won in safty ect.untill the cost was to much.then they changed ,not because the interest of the man but BECAUSE OF the cost...[but they pretended it was in the interest of the man first]this i know ,not think to know........SO AGAIN RAVEN THIS IS TRUE WHAT YOU SAY..AND DEEPER THEN WW WANTS TO BELIEVE.but sooner or later even him can not deniy the truth here

[bullfighter]

The entire world will benefit from a war with a tyranical terrorist entity. This is not a war against Muslims for being Muslims! This is a war against oppressors radical enough to inflict death on the innocent masses to make a simple political statement. We now find ourselves in an age of advanced technology that can be applied to weapons to make them powerful enough to destroy entire Cities in the blink of an eye. This sort of technology is falling into the hands of the idiot terrorist groups who hide behind excuses that they create from Quranic surrah and verse....this war is nothing more than that. If you have a problem with this war, then dont fight in it. Dont expect us to sit idly by and allow you to denounce our efforts to provide a safe environment for all to live in, and an environment in which the common man and woman have a right to nominate and vote their government into being, and to remove it when it is corrupt. If you are so against that, then there is nothing else left for you to be in this world but a terrorist sympathizer! Your sympathy belongs with the innocent masses....not with the terrorists!



DO YOU REMEMBER HOW BUSH GOT ELECTED,TWICE IN A CLOSE WEIRD WINS..THEN THINGS WENT INTO THIS GREAT ACTION.that had warning about..i do not care who did the wrong thing here,there was two dogs fighting and brought much death to innocent peoples.....do you not get what i say...i personaly dont believe the reasons this thing has happen..i do not care who the fuck is wrong...to many woman and children dying over bullshit[that is what we should be stopping .not who is wrong and blame them for the killing they do ,and blame them for the killing we do...it is fucked and we normal people should stand against that.MY SYMPATHY IS WITH THE INNOCENT MASSES ON BOTH SIDES...so what if i do not beleive the reasons

[Walter Weiss]

SO WHY IS IT SO HARD TO SEE bigger plans at play HERE then what we the people get TO HEAR,we have always been lied to.when it comes to food ,chemical harm in the work place.....the corperate interest has always won in safty ect.untill the cost was to much.then they changed ,not because the interest of the man but BECAUSE OF the cost...[but they pretended it was in the interest of the man first]this i know ,not think to know........SO AGAIN RAVEN THIS IS TRUE WHAT YOU SAY..AND DEEPER THEN WW WANTS TO BELIEVE.but sooner or later even him can not deniy the truth here

Look, your Mother Ship is not here yet. OK? Just be patient, someone will arrive to take you home.

Lokk....no one has kept you out of the law courts to file your grievances in. No one has kept you from contacting a New Reporter to talk about your vast knowledge of the great lies you feel are loose in the world. No one has stopped you from voting. No one has stopped you from seeking political office. No one has stopped you from seeking hire education with which to earn your fortune if you want one. No one has stopped you from anything.....except fondling kids and selling dope. You are free to shout your beliefs from the highest mountain if you can climb high enough. You keep mentioning higher powers at work, yet while you sit around and screw around waiting for your higher powers, people are getting destroyed by terrorism. We are tired of the terrorists so we intend to destroy the terrorists. The last time I looked around and saw things, any terrorist that was in a jail cell was very limited in his ability to kill innocent people at a bus stop or airport terminal. The last time I looked around and saw things, dead terrorists were not able to do anything at all but rot and stink. They were no longer a threat. While you sit on your ass praying, people are being murdered. If you want to do something, then support the effort to stop the terrorists from murdering people. I cant put it any simpler than that.

[bullfighter]

Look, your Mother Ship is not here yet. OK? Just be patient, someone will arrive to take you home.

Lokk....no one has kept you out of the law courts to file your grievances in. No one has kept you from contacting a New Reporter to talk about your vast knowledge of the great lies you feel are loose in the world. No one has stopped you from voting. No one has stopped you from seeking political office. No one has stopped you from seeking hire education with which to earn your fortune if you want one. No one has stopped you from anything.....except fondling kids and selling dope. You are free to shout your beliefs from the highest mountain if you can climb high enough. You keep mentioning higher powers at work, yet while you sit around and screw around waiting for your higher powers, people are getting destroyed by terrorism. We are tired of the terrorists so we intend to destroy the terrorists. The last time I looked around and saw things, any terrorist that was in a jail cell was very limited in his ability to kill innocent people at a bus stop or airport terminal. The last time I looked around and saw things, dead terrorists were not able to do anything at all but rot and stink. They were no longer a threat. While you sit on your ass praying, people are being murdered. If you want to do something, then support the effort to stop the terrorists from murdering people. I cant put it any simpler than that.
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you must have a great contempt for people like me,that fogs your mind
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i have been job steward on many many big jobs.i have shut down plants,been threaten.had my family theaten with knife to there throat..i have taken things to great limits over asbestes..i seen the gouvernment not do anything for seven years from point i showed absolutly proof of the danger..i see many people dying right now everymonth from this killer,and many other things..you do not now what i have stood up for ,you do not not the threats i had to take to better a place for workers...against a fucking gouverment that new the harm..and still do in some areas,but the coorperate clowns in high places have bigger lawyers and meat grinders...get your head out of bushs ass and wake up to coruption in high places...

[Walter Weiss]

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you must have a great contempt for people like me,that fogs your mind
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i have been job steward on many many big jobs.i have shut down plants,been threaten.had my family theaten with knife to there throat..i have taken things to great limits over asbestes..i seen the gouvernment not do anything for seven years from point i showed absolutly proof of the danger..i see many people dying right now everymonth from this killer,and many other things..you do not now what i have stood up for ,you do not not the threats i had to take to better a place for workers...against a fucking gouverment that new the harm..and still do in some areas,but the coorperate clowns in high places have bigger lawyers and meat grinders...get your head out of bushs ass and wake up to coruption in high places...

Again, I dont see what any of this has to do with the support you give terrorists. So if we can prove the terrorists were all for asbestos, only then would you stop supporting them? Having a "bigger lawyer" is usually not the difference between success and failure in a lawsuit. It is whether or not the person collecting critical evidence and running the interviews to secure testimony had any effective skills in doing so. Lacking in that area is what provides the meat for the grinders. Often people want to be heroes in lawsuits, and they charge in and start collecting things, only to find out later that they have compromised the case twenty ways to one. The best advice I can give you is leave the lawyering to the lawyers, and maybe your success would have been different. Normally when a union shop steward has a knife to his throat, the root of the problem is most often found in the lack of certain skills required to be an effective communicator. No one was right to do that to you....but since you were half of the problem, it is reasonable to suspect that you might be responsible for some of the contributing factors that lead up to the physical conflicts in the work place. The post office killings showed everyone what can happen when the wrong people are handling sensitive issues with large groups of employess.

In any case...I dont see anything here to indicate that you were denied access to the police or the law courts, or to commissioners, congressmen or senators, or special investigators and inspectors. I dont see anything here to warrant your supporting terrorists, or a valid reason for you to hate the United States of America. What I see from here at this point in time is a tendency to blame all of your personal troubles on the government. Most of the officials of the United States Government probably never even knew you were a Union Steward.....so why blame them for your misfortune? Why blame the country? You are the perfect demorat!