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LedZap
03-17-2008, 04:55 PM
Dropping Gas Prices


THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' GAS FOR ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET GAS BACK DOWN TO $1.30 PER GALLON.


This was sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this summer, take time to read this please.

Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea.
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
It's worth your consideration. Join the resistance!!!!



I hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer, and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down?

We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas.

It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read on and join with us!



By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $2.00 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $3.19 for regular unleaded in my town.

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace..not sellers.

With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action.

The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.

How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas.
But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.

If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices.
If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 3 00) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers.
If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!

If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all!

(If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. But I am . so trust me on this one.

How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days !!!

I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you!
Acting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

Keep it going!!!

MrJim
03-17-2008, 06:19 PM
I've heard it before. It wouldn't work, and actually, it would make things worse.

The price of gas is determined by investors, not Exxon. By targeting one major oil/gas producer, all that would happen is more oil taken off the market, causing prices to spike further at remaining stations. If you haven't noticed, some of the smaller stations have been shutting down because they can't afford the product when people are buying less of it due to the prices.

I have no idea why these proposals target Exxon, and no idea why me. It would do nothing to help us.

conspiracy
03-17-2008, 07:23 PM
I've always heard that if you got all the people in China to jump up and down at once it would cause a massive tsunami that could wipe out the entire western US. They've never been able to get all the people in a communist country to do the same thing at once to see if it would work.

Point is, no one will NOT buy gas. They can't , it would also mean everyone would not have to go to work a day and no one can afford that. For gas prices to drop it would take more refineries to increase supply. The problem is there is only aloud to be so many refineries thanks to some federal law that has existed for some time.

If people would stop buying gas though , I believe prices would drop some. Don't expect too much though , Big Oil is loving their record profits.

WhiteRaven
03-17-2008, 07:29 PM
Someone should start their own gas company and sell gas cheaper. Everyone will then buy from them, causing other companies to sell cheaper. Only functional solution, but I think there are some differences as to how gas companies work...

General Septem
03-18-2008, 05:49 AM
They've been trying to do this since 1.75 was considered high. Now it's almost double that.

hitekredneck
03-18-2008, 08:55 AM
Someone should start their own gas company and sell gas cheaper. Everyone will then buy from them, causing other companies to sell cheaper. Only functional solution, but I think there are some differences as to how gas companies work...

this is part of the problem....you see, many people have tried to get refineries started, but have too many problems and hoops to jump through to get em going....between the environmentalists, the government, and regular citizens unwilling to allow a refinery near their proximities, it's damned near impossible

England Expects
03-18-2008, 01:32 PM
They've been trying to do this since 1.75 was considered high. Now it's almost double that.

$3 a gallon IS cheap.

Its a fact is that if it was double that, you'd still pay it, because fuel is a necessity, not a luxury.

hitek gets sick of me telling him how expensive fuel is here, but it proves my point. I passed a station today and saw diesel at £1.17 for a litre. Now, £1=$2 and 1 gallon is very roughly 4 litres so that make it $9.36 a gallon here. Has it had an effect on demand? Not at all.

The days of cheap fuel are over. If we dont pay it, the Chinese and the Indians will.

Supply and demand. Dont you just love capitalism.

General Septem
03-18-2008, 02:13 PM
Supply and demand. Dont you just love capitalism.

I do love capitalism, because the high gas prices will eventually lead to more efficient and cheaper methods of transportation, like hydrogen and nuclear. I hear those rear-end collisions really kill nuclear cars. I can picture a bunch of kids on a field trip in a thousand years, "this was all caused by the power plant, right?" "No, Johnny, some dipshit was talking on his cell phone." Regardless of that, there'd be little incentive for anyone to invest in cleaner and more efficient energy sources if there was no money in it. Nobody has ever done anything to appease the tree-huggers. Nobody really cares about them, because even with green cars available they're still going to walk anyway.

TheSpectacularSecularist
03-18-2008, 02:26 PM
Well, hopefully things will be better soon. :)

MrJim
03-18-2008, 02:54 PM
For gas prices to drop it would take more refineries to increase supply. The problem is there is only aloud to be so many refineries thanks to some federal law that has existed for some time.

If people would stop buying gas though , I believe prices would drop some. Don't expect too much though , Big Oil is loving their record profits.

Here's what I don't understand.... Iran hasn't any refining capacity to speak of, so they have to export their oil to refineries, then import the gas. How then are they paying pocket change per gallon? I mean, the subsidies help, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense.


Someone should start their own gas company and sell gas cheaper. Everyone will then buy from them, causing other companies to sell cheaper. Only functional solution, but I think there are some differences as to how gas companies work...

Good idea. GREAT idea in fact. Too bad it would be illegal.

Best hope for competition lies in alternative fuels... but it would take so long, it's hard to tell if it would be any more economical.


this is part of the problem....you see, many people have tried to get refineries started, but have too many problems and hoops to jump through to get em going....between the environmentalists, the government, and regular citizens unwilling to allow a refinery near their proximities, it's damned near impossible

Just shoot 'em.


$3 a gallon IS cheap.

Its a fact is that if it was double that, you'd still pay it, because fuel is a necessity, not a luxury.

hitek gets sick of me telling him how expensive fuel is here, but it proves my point. I passed a station today and saw diesel at £1.17 for a litre. Now, £1=$2 and 1 gallon is very roughly 4 litres so that make it $9.36 a gallon here. Has it had an effect on demand? Not at all.

Can't really make that comparison, since your gas (and everything else) is taxed the hell out of to provide for government programs... here it provides virtually nothing for consumers except a pain in the ass.

Fuel may be a necessity, but excessive amounts of fuel is a luxury. People may be willing to cut where they can.

£1=$1.57 btw.

General Septem
03-18-2008, 03:10 PM
Can't really make that comparison, since your gas (and everything else) is taxed the hell out of to provide for government programs... here it provides virtually nothing for consumers except a pain in the ass.

Good point, EE is using gas prices to discredit capitalism, but it's his own socialist system that's driving them up over across the pond.

England Expects
03-18-2008, 04:11 PM
Good point, EE is using gas prices to discredit capitalism, but it's his own socialist system that's driving them up over across the pond.

Not really general. I'm just pointing out that capitalism isn't perfect. If you want the freedom that the market gives you, you can be at the mercy of greedy oil companies who dont give a rats ass if you have to choose between filling your car and feeding your kids.

Jim, £1 at todays rate buys $2.00705, according to the BBC. The idea that we dont mind paying $9 a gallon because we get the money back in government programmes is wrong.

General Septem
03-18-2008, 04:14 PM
If you want the freedom that the market gives you, you can be at the mercy of greedy oil companies who dont give a rats ass if you have to choose between filling your car and feeding your kids.

That's fair enough, because the market also gives me the freedom to be as rich as I want to be, so that I can do both. Companies will be greedy anyway. It's nice when the government takes care of everything for you, but you forget how to take care of yourself.

freakazoid
03-18-2008, 09:29 PM
Not really general. I'm just pointing out that capitalism isn't perfect. If you want the freedom that the market gives you, you can be at the mercy of greedy oil companies who dont give a rats ass if you have to choose between filling your car and feeding your kids.

Jim, £1 at todays rate buys $2.00705, according to the BBC. The idea that we dont mind paying $9 a gallon because we get the money back in government programmes is wrong.

RE" If you want the freedom that the market gives you, you can be at the mercy of greedy oil companies who dont give a rats ass if you have to choose between filling your car and feeding your kids."

MY GOD!!! What a load of commie CRAP!! Bitch, bitch, bitch!!

MrJim
03-19-2008, 12:06 AM
Not really general. I'm just pointing out that capitalism isn't perfect. If you want the freedom that the market gives you, you can be at the mercy of greedy oil companies who dont give a rats ass if you have to choose between filling your car and feeding your kids.

Jim, £1 at todays rate buys $2.00705, according to the BBC.

We are not at the mercy oil 'greedy oil companies' so much as we're at the mercy of these guys:

http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/

Okay, I had a brain fart... I'm used to talking about Euros, forgot you're pounds. My bad.

"The 15-nation euro traded at $1.5715, down from $1.5731 late Monday. But prior to the Fed's decision to cut interest rates, the euro was trading $1.5792"

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/18/markets/dollar_fed/index.htm


The idea that we dont mind paying $9 a gallon because we get the money back in government programmes is wrong.

Why? If you pay $9 for gas and receive $2.60 in gas + $6.40 in tax-sponsored benefits (health care, education, public transit, etc), then you have received the same return on your money as we do here. So making a statement like '$3 is cheap compared to over here' is a moot point. $3.00 in the U.S. is too high. $9.00 in the U.K. is too high. Everything's too damn high.

England Expects
03-19-2008, 02:08 AM
I agree everything is too high. I just think it's gonna get much higher and we'll all still keep paying because we have too.

Freakkk, everything to you is commie crap. Just fuck off to a small, nazi corner and die you fuckwit.

conspiracy
03-19-2008, 08:11 PM
I agree everything is too high. I just think it's gonna get much higher and we'll all still keep paying because we have too.

Freakkk, everything to you is commie crap. Just fuck off to a small, nazi corner and die you fuckwit.

ENGLAND. I just noticed your FDR quotes. I like them. I also agree with them. What made you use them?

decipleofdarkness
03-20-2008, 02:46 AM
juzt maik yur one damm gaz stoopedhedz.

England Expects
03-20-2008, 03:41 AM
For a while now I've been changing my avatar/signature to show someone that I respect and the smart things they've said.

I dont remember how I came across those quotes to be honest, but it seems to me that FDR knew what he was talking about.

General Septem
03-20-2008, 07:56 PM
What I would support is buying gas from companies that don't import oil from the ragheads. There's a Sunoco right up the street from where I live and I rarely buy gas anywhere else. It's cheapest and they don't buy oil from the Saudis.

General Septem
03-20-2008, 08:11 PM
Apparently the price of "petrol" is even higher in London, my girlfriend is visiting there and says it's over $10.

England Expects
03-21-2008, 03:42 AM
Apparently the price of "petrol" is even higher in London, my girlfriend is visiting there and says it's over $10.

I'm not surprised by that at all General.