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Paisleyspeaker
07-02-2006, 03:50 PM
I saw on CNN this morning that across the country schools are banning tag from reccess. They don't think it is safe enough. They are afraid that someones parents will sue. I have an idea, lets just off all the lawyers , and then we can have back the things they have taken away.

Brains_Behind_Operation
07-02-2006, 08:35 PM
Here's a better idea! Let's just make it illegal to make any money from lawsuits with the school. We all know that the people creating these bogus new ideas against schools are nothing more than gold diggers. They should have to sign a waiver at the beginning of each school year leaving the school at no fault for what happens to their children.

~:rolleyes: Maybe we should just forbid the schools from letting the children do ANYTHING that's potentially harmful --- that means that even things like walking, sitting, and sleeping are out of the question, because there is some dumbass somewhere in the world who can and HAS been harmed in each act.

southsidesenior07
07-03-2006, 11:42 AM
~:rolleyes: Maybe we should just forbid the schools from letting the children do ANYTHING that's potentially harmful --- that means that even things like walking, sitting, and sleeping are out of the question, because there is some dumbass somewhere in the world who can and HAS been harmed in each act.

:) a good point... but of course, you know that the Us gvmnt. would always consider banning tag because of one bad incident, but heaven forbid they consider banning something serious where millions get hurt.... guess the US gvmnt. doesn't know how many dumbasses are currently in America.

Paisleyspeaker
07-03-2006, 11:44 AM
What if every jury had the right, if they found for the defendant, to punish the plantiff. Right now they can only levy a verdict against the defendant. Wouldn't it be great if they thought the person bringing the suit was a golddigging moron, they could fine them.. It would be like an asshole tax.

Brains_Behind_Operation
07-03-2006, 03:52 PM
Can't they kinda do that already? Just by raising a counter-claim against the prosecutor for the troubles they have been put through?

Paisleyspeaker
07-03-2006, 07:57 PM
Diffrent states have different versions of it. I think there should be some accross the board standard. And I also think that perjury laws should be more activly enforced then they are. When people lie under oath , they should be punished for it. That would help some or our over litigiousness.

Brains_Behind_Operation
07-03-2006, 11:20 PM
So what happens now if someone is proven to have lied under oath? There must be SOME cricumstances....why else would we even bother to swear them in?

southsidesenior07
07-07-2006, 12:16 PM
it occurred to me a while ago.. something is very wrong with schools in America today. schools are considering banning tag from recess, due to the possibility of lawsuits, but when children have to go to school with no desks, supplies, books, or room for recess, the schools could care less.it seems to me that a parent would be much more inclined to sue about the fact that his/her child sits ont he floor in class and shares a book with 10 other kids as opposed to suing over a cut the kid got at recess. maybe if CNN started raising hell about the state of the school system instead of talking about tag, more would get accomplished, because it's obvious that our schools aren't going to do it by themselves. :cool: just a thought......

Paisleyspeaker
07-07-2006, 12:56 PM
So what happens now if someone is proven to have lied under oath? There must be SOME cricumstances....why else would we even bother to swear them in?

Oh they do have a charge for it, and a sentence as well, the problem is getting a DA to charge someone with it.

Brains_Behind_Operation
07-07-2006, 01:33 PM
it seems to me that a parent would be much more inclined to sue about the fact that his/her child sits ont he floor in class and shares a book with 10 other kids as opposed to suing over a cut the kid got at recess......


Suing isn't going to make things any better. Especially with this problem of being underfunded. It will do just the opposite. The more money we take away from the schools the worse things are going to get for our children. These people are just greedy little vermon who don't care about their child's education, but just want an easy way to make a free buck.

Paisleyspeaker
07-07-2006, 01:37 PM
While I agree with the counterproductiveness of suing schools, a good CNN investigation might help. And it isn't always a matter of not enough funding, but poor management. And again I must lay some blame on parents. How often do these schools who share books have brand new sports equipment? If the school budjets arn't tipping that way, parents and booster clubs will work hard and raise money, but not for books and materials. Makes one wonder why they are really there after all.

Brains_Behind_Operation
07-07-2006, 01:49 PM
How often do these schools who share books have brand new sports equipment?.


As far as I know, not very. Don't try to throw blame around that way. You're just doing some mud slinging. Yes the parents need to take the blame, but we have to point out things that we can do to make things better rather than naming circumstances that are making them worse, especially if these circumstances aren't really happening all that often.

Chigun
07-07-2006, 10:28 PM
The legal system is bunk. I'm starting to hate lawyers.

southsidesenior07
07-09-2006, 09:06 PM
Suing isn't going to make things any better. Especially with this problem of being underfunded. It will do just the opposite. The more money we take away from the schools the worse things are going to get for our children. These people are just greedy little vermon who don't care about their child's education, but just want an easy way to make a free buck.

I agree with you completely. All this legal action and dancing around the truth and lying etc... has made our legal system, when it comes to deciding matters of education at least, absolutely imeffective. This is why big corporations in towns like St. Louis and Chicago and New York can buy up land and create new lawsuits and cause the subsequent schools on their property to be filled with sewage and not filled with supplies. Again, another example of them making "a free buck." Ah the joys of corporations in American and the monopolies they hold on education.

Paisleyspeaker
07-10-2006, 10:53 AM
I agree with you completely. All this legal action and dancing around the truth and lying etc... has made our legal system, when it comes to deciding matters of education at least, absolutely imeffective. This is why big corporations in towns like St. Louis and Chicago and New York can buy up land and create new lawsuits and cause the subsequent schools on their property to be filled with sewage and not filled with supplies. Again, another example of them making "a free buck." Ah the joys of corporations in American and the monopolies they hold on education.


Tell me more. They are buying property, allowing schools to be built on them and then filling the schools with sewage? Your attempt to be brief has left me confused, interested, but confused.

southsidesenior07
07-10-2006, 02:03 PM
Tell me more. They are buying property, allowing schools to be built on them and then filling the schools with sewage? Your attempt to be brief has left me confused, interested, but confused.

I apologize for being brief, but my dad was informing me it was bedtime... (ah the joys of being a teenager!)
The reference I made was to a book called Savage Inequalities by Jonathon Kozol. It talks about circumstances like this in places such as St. Loius, Chicago, Washington DC, New York, and more. It's an excellent book, and I hgihly recommend it, for sheer reading if nothing else. The instance I was using was in East St. Loius (I think.. it's been a few since I read)... Enjoy!

freakazoid
08-26-2006, 12:39 AM
I saw on CNN this morning that across the country schools are banning tag from reccess. They don't think it is safe enough. They are afraid that someones parents will sue. I have an idea, lets just off all the lawyers , and then we can have back the things they have taken away.

Damn good idea, PS. I like your thinking! :)

General Septem
08-26-2006, 11:18 PM
Oh hell, let's ban everything. Of course, letting them talk about women derogatorily is just part of being a teenager, so let them do that, but when it comes to wearing a "The Simpsons" t-shirt, we definitely cannot have such a wholesale corruption of our youth.

Of course, black people calling white people "cracker" is just affirmative action. It would be racist to disallow that. But freedom forbid we should let girls wear perfume.

Hell, we'll never get them to listen, so let the students just sit there in class and do nothing all day. But when it comes time to eat lunch, whoa, not so fast there. What you brought isn't healthy for you. We're going to have to take it away, even though it's none of our business.

Of course, everyone knows people making out in the hallway and having sex in the library's nothing to worry about, but when it comes time for people to speak their mind about the tyranny America's turning into, show no mercy. Whack them in the head a few times. That'll teach them.