Beat the shit out of your kids!!! Do it right

[microman]

For all those who think you shouldn't beat your kids you have a vagina because beating your kids buids character. There are many methods to make sure ur children listen 2 u because just going Jeffery stop doing that then the little shit keeps messing up the house. But if you fucking crack him in the back of the skull he will stop and think for a sec and realize "OH SHIT LETS NOT DISOBEY MOM/DAD" if it doesn't come to them after the first one then after a couple they will get the message. If u r a marshmallow and can't hit ur kid have ur respective husband/wife/girlfriend/boyfriend hit them so they get the message. Tell the child both of u mean it cause u can't hit ur kid but u have to stay united to disipline. :D

Here are some simple ways to disipline ur kids so they don't end up being a shit head in life.

Go to this site i highly reccomend this site for these steps.:D:D:D

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=beat

[MrJim]

Your poll sucks. Most of the answers are basically the same.

[Montanarchist]

I guess a little slap here and there clears things up, but it really is not a good way to raise children. Fear tactics are ineffective, kids have more to benefit from learning the actual difference between right and wrong.

[ballzack]

Ridiculous poll.

Did you actually mean "BEAT" your children? If so, then a simple yes or no poll would suffice.

NO being the rational answer.

Otherwise, the poll makes little sense.

[hitekredneck]

Ridiculous poll.

Did you actually mean "BEAT" your children? If so, then a simple yes or no poll would suffice.

NO being the rational answer.

Otherwise, the poll makes little sense.

i dunno, zack...i beat my kids on a regular basis, and they seem fine....when they aren't muttering under their breat, or reading some book called :How to succeed in murder" :cool:

[WhiteRaven]

He said beat, BEAT! Not just spank, actually beat them. That's abuse. Furthermore, spanking should only be used in situations where the child does something destructive which they could expect to be hit for. When they refuse to go to bed on a school night just let them stay up, and drag them to school exhausted the next day. In a few days they'll figure out why their eyes are bloodred...

Now if they break your lamp and refuse to clean it up, you can spank them.

[General Septem]

Arbitrary punishments don't work because kids are too smart to actually believe it's a consequence of their actions. Getting grounded is not a consequence of lying, it's a consequence of the PARENT'S decision to ground their ass. Kids KNOW THAT, and it doesn't teach them shit.

Corporal punishment is no different. There are times when a slap across the face drives that "that was extremely stupid of you!" in a little deeper, but by and large a beating by itself isn't going to do anything.

What also doesn't work is saying "you CAN'T do that". Yes they can. They just did. Stop sugarcoating it, grow some balls, and tell your kids to cut it the fuck out. The difference? "You can't do that" is a statement of fact, with no evidence to back it up (quite the contrary since the fact that they did proves it wrong). "Cut it the fuck out" is a command. No evidence or facts required, just don't do it, period. "That was stupid" is also useful if they know they made a mistake.

You don't need to be nice about it when your kid fucks up. Spend quality time with them the rest of the time, but when push comes to shove, don't mince words. Stupid is stupid, none of that "everyone is human" shit. And especially none of that "everyone's special" shit.

[WhiteRaven]

Either spanking or slapping them in the face could be a consequence of lying, If someone lied to me about something important I'd probably smack them, regardless of their age.

[General Septem]

Either spanking or slapping them in the face could be a consequence of lying, If someone lied to me about something important I'd probably smack them, regardless of their age.

A consequence of lying would be something like the possibility that the other person is onto your bullshit. Whether or not they'll hit you for it depends on the person.

But no TV for saying the "f-word"? That's not a consequence. A general rule of thumb is, if it discourages the behavior it's a consequence, if it just makes your kids try harder not to get caught then it's not.

[ballzack]

Beating to me means very hard hitting. To the point of doing damage to flesh and bone. I like to say this about that. If you "beat' your kids whom are 1/2 your size or smaller, or "beat" your dog who can't defend himself, I'd like to have a 400 pound gorilla "beat" you and see how you like it! :D Now that's fair, right?

Some people use the term "beat" generically and that's why I asked. Beat to some means spanking.

[LedZap]

I don't know.......Hmmm.., You can BEAT YOUR FRIENDS.....You can BEAT YOUR MEAT......But you can't BEAT A BLOWJOB !!!!!!!!!!!!::rolleyes:

[hitekredneck]

what i want to know is how many of you that answered this poll actually have kids? :cool:

[microman]

Beating to me means very hard hitting. To the point of doing damage to flesh and bone. I like to say this about that. If you "beat' your kids whom are 1/2 your size or smaller, or "beat" your dog who can't defend himself, I'd like to have a 400 pound gorilla "beat" you and see how you like it! Now that's fair, right?

Some people use the term "beat" generically and that's why I asked. Beat to some means spanking

I mean it like a slap across the head or a hit on the bum but not like punching them.

[microman]

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ballzak=Beating to me means very hard hitting. To the point of doing damage to flesh and bone. I like to say this about that. If you "beat' your kids whom are 1/2 your size or smaller, or "beat" your dog who can't defend himself, I'd like to have a 400 pound gorilla "beat" you and see how you like it! Now that's fair, right?Some people use the term "beat" generically and that's why I asked. Beat to some means spanking


I mean it like a slap across the head or a hit on the bum but not like punching them.

[hitekredneck]

[[/I]Some people use the term "beat" generically and that's why I asked. Beat to some means spanking


I mean it like a slap across the head or a hit on the bum but not like punching them.

do you have kids?

[Paisleyspeaker]

You know I was thinking the same thing HiTek. Theories about what you would or should do are grand, but nothing is like real experience.

Like Whiteraven's lamp example, so Raven you would have a child picking up pieces of glass ??

Honestly a lot of the people answering this poll would still be considered kids.

I would like to know what the experinces of the other parents are.

I know people that have raised decent kids without ever laying a hand on them. I must admit that we spank, but rarely as a first option. Like most we usually holler, and I use time outs if it doesn't warrant anything more. Some things go straight to a spanking (usually dangerous things where you only want to have to make your point once) You must be consistent though, the same things are always against the rules, and the same routines followed; that way they know what to expect.

I believe that if you are fair, only spank as discipline (not because you are angry) and pay lots of positive attention to kids they will love and forgive you. They will look back and say thank god they loved me enough to give me the dicipline and structure I needed.

[General Septem]

I'm not a parent but I know what didn't work on me.

[MrJim]

My wife used to babysit for parents that believed in the whole new-age positive reinforcement crap. The result were kids that were spoiled, defiant, and an overall pain in the ass. My, what a difference one good ass-whoopin' would have made.

[Paisleyspeaker]

The carrot and the stick. Can't forget the stick. Just the carrot doesn't work.

[hitekredneck]

The carrot and the stick. Can't forget the stick. Just the carrot doesn't work.

that's exactly correct, paisley...what a lot of people can't seem to comprehend is that individual kids need different types of punishment....that last time i spanked my 17 yo daughter was when she was 4...she learned very quickly that dad has hands of steel...my 13 yo boy on the other hand, occassionally needs "physical reinforcement" of the rules...there is no clear line that tells a person what kind of punishment a kids needs, because a spanking might work on one, but not another...another thing people fail to realize is that when you punish your kids, it's vital to explain the choices they made to earn the punishment...and as you said, it takes punishment and reward to teach proper behaviour :cool:

btw, i've already raised 2 kids, and these 2 are the last, thank goodness :D

[conspiracy]

I agree, this poll is possibly the worst I have seen on BS.COM.
First off beating a child is wrong. Spanking for discipline is good. WHY? Good discipline does not end with a spanking. Some children don't respond to spanking. You may have to ground them in an effective manner., EVERY child is different.

[Lowlife]

Most people who are for beating their kids have been beaten themselves in their childhood, which reveals the nature of this abuse in itself explicitly.
They say "it didnt do damage to me". "I deserved it". It is typical for victims of abuse to defend the abuse and the abuser.

Of course it does damage. It either increases your proneness to solve conflicts violently or it instills tremendous fear in you. Both are not good companions in life. Most of the fuck-ups out there who beat the shit out of people and use violence daily grew up around people who beat the shit out of them.

It is abuse that is being passed on and whats even sicker is, that people "applaud" it.

[microman]

When i mean beat ur kids i mean hit them like spanking not like punch them in the face but a little physical disipline is good and i did not rly get hit as a child but a feel it is a method for some things im saying this so 'm no longer misunderstood as a supporter of abuse.

[General Septem]

Most people who are for beating their kids have been beaten themselves in their childhood, which reveals the nature of this abuse in itself explicitly.
They say "it didnt do damage to me". "I deserved it". It is typical for victims of abuse to defend the abuse and the abuser.

I was never beaten, and there were certainly times I needed it.

[hitekredneck]

ok, i still haven't seen an answer to my question, so i'll ask it directly...to lowlife and microman, do either of you have children?...you both have strong opinions on this issue, but if you don't have kids, bubba ain't neither of you qualified to debate the topic, regardless of your position :cool:

[Lowlife]

I hear you and no i dont have kids. But i know people who have been beaten badly and as a result use violence themselves.
Im not talking so much about spanking, i am referring to beating.
My Ex GF got beaten the shit out of her by her Mom (i am talking about laying on the floor having her ribs and nose broken). She became a very scared and manipulative person not being able to go heads up with me about problems, cause she always expected a beating (which never happened of course).
Scientists in Harvard have found out, that people who got beaten in their childhood are four times as prone to use violence themselves, as people who havent been beaten.
http://mcleanhospital.org/PublicAffairs/20001214_child_abuse.htm

I have been spanked by my Mom for no apparent reason sometimes (she has psychological issues). She only stopped when i was big enough and i told her i would spank her back if she would ever lay her hands on me again. For me spanking didnt work. It would just make me more mad. Explaining things in a common sensed way was always the better way. But everyone is different.

And as a man, concerning this issue i would say, that every man who beats someone weaker then him is a straightout coward.

[hitekredneck]

I hear you and no i dont have kids. But i know people who have been beaten badly and as a result use violence themselves.
Im not talking so much about spanking, i am referring to beating.
My Ex GF got beaten the shit out of her by her Mom (i am talking about laying on the floor having her ribs and nose broken). She became a very scared and manipulative person not being able to go heads up with me about problems, cause she always expected a beating (which never happened of course).
Scientists in Harvard have found out, that people who got beaten in their childhood are four times as prone to use violence themselves, as people who havent been beaten.
http://mcleanhospital.org/PublicAffairs/20001214_child_abuse.htm

I have been spanked by my Mom for no apparent reason sometimes (she has psychological issues). She only stopped when i was big enough and i told her i would spank her back if she would ever lay her hands on me again. For me spanking didnt work. It would just make me more mad. Explaining things in a common sensed way was always the better way. But everyone is different.

And as a man, concerning this issue i would say, that every man who beats someone weaker then him is a straightout coward.

i can understand your point...there's a distinct difference between punishment and abuse...i see no problem with spankings, and have had my mouth slapped on several occassions when i misspoke about something or someone..i'm fine, to coin a phrase...

[microman]

For me no i don't have kids but i have babysat and i have lived close to children all my life that haven't been beat and have been beat. (beat just means disiplined) I've seen how they have come out now and the kids that were not beat some of them turned out ok depending on how they were taken care of though if they had some form of disipline like grounding or a little less physical method they turned out ok but they also didn't turn out to be as street smart as they should have cause the parents didn't show them sometimes u gotta take one for urself if u do something bad. The Parents fault to for kinda keeping them secluded a little. But the ones that were disiplined feel some light form now is good because when the get hit it shows that in life when u do something bad u have real consecquences in physical terms too.

[micro4]

You lying bastard! You have not babysat for anyone! I should know im your freakin brother!
I can honestly say beating your kids works (BEATING not abuse!) microman was a horrible child! as a 4 year old in less then 3 days he ripped wall paper off the walls, poured bleach on all the clothes in the laundry room, and filled the bathtub (with water in it) with toilet paper. We are talking about 12 freakin rolls here! could u honestly not beat a child after all this!
The fact of the matter is young children are like animals! They only respond to pain and pleasure... so rather then letting them electrocute themselves smack them!

[LedZap]

You lying bastard! You have not babysat for anyone! I should know im your freakin brother!
I can honestly say beating your kids works (BEATING not abuse!) microman was a horrible child! as a 4 year old in less then 3 days he ripped wall paper off the walls, poured bleach on all the clothes in the laundry room, and filled the bathtub (with water in it) with toilet paper. We are talking about 12 freakin rolls here! could u honestly not beat a child after all this!
The fact of the matter is young children are like animals! They only respond to pain and pleasure... so rather then letting them electrocute themselves smack them!

Good job Microman!

[microman]

Good job Microman!

Thanks I did my best!!!:D

[Carrot]

I have only been hit tiwce, in anger (not a come here and bend over my knee style), by my Mum (Bless her).

Htting IMO should never be a planned or regular event, If you bring up your child well enough then 'I'm dissapointed in you' or a 'how DARE you!' should be enough most ofthe time.

[hitekredneck]

I have only been hit tiwce, in anger (not a come here and bend over my knee style), by my Mum (Bless her).

Htting IMO should never be a planned or regular event, If you bring up your child well enough then 'I'm dissapointed in you' or a 'how DARE you!' should be enough most ofthe time.

ok, last time i'm gonna sound off on this subject...i'm a father, have 5 kids (that i know of) and can tell you that what works for discipline with one child doesn't necessarily work with another...some kids do well with grounding and time out...others can't seem to get the idea without physical attention...too many people attempt to raise their kids according to books, which is asinine because each and every child learns in differing manner...

[keppler614]

For all those who think you shouldn't beat your kids you have a vagina because beating your kids buids character. There are many methods to make sure ur children listen 2 u because just going Jeffery stop doing that then the little shit keeps messing up the house. But if you fucking crack him in the back of the skull he will stop and think for a sec and realize "OH SHIT LETS NOT DISOBEY MOM/DAD" if it doesn't come to them after the first one then after a couple they will get the message. If u r a marshmallow and can't hit ur kid have ur respective husband/wife/girlfriend/boyfriend hit them so they get the message. Tell the child both of u mean it cause u can't hit ur kid but u have to stay united to disipline. :D

Here are some simple ways to disipline ur kids so they don't end up being a shit head in life.

Go to this site i highly reccomend this site for these steps.:D:D:D


Wow - this has got to be one of the worst I have seen here at bullshit. I really HOPE you just mis-worded here and are not REALLY that fucking sadistic and evil. "beating" your children, or ANYONE is a BAD idea!!! wow...

I am almost speechless... If someone is so mentally bankrupt that they cannot figgure out ANY other way to dicipline a child other than brute force, they are truly in need of professional help.. I am not saying that a simple spanking (hand on ass, 3 or 4 smacks) is out of line! but BEATINGS?

Again, as i have said before, kids arent stupid! actually this tactic (for some children) is getting off light... But if you are a sly parent who knows your child - you may discover that taking away the computer for a week is WAY WAY more "painfull" ..

But - I do not have children, so it is not my place to dictate to you how to raise a child.. I admit i have no fucking clue what is involved - but for christ sake - beating your children??? - that just seems wrong to me.

[LedZap]

Yes you're right , beating kids is wrong. Now beating your meat............:D

[ballzack]

ok, last time i'm gonna sound off on this subject...i'm a father, have 5 kids (that i know of) and can tell you that what works for discipline with one child doesn't necessarily work with another...some kids do well with grounding and time out...others can't seem to get the idea without physical attention...too many people attempt to raise their kids according to books, which is asinine because each and every child learns in differing manner...

That's profound and on-target IMO. I am NOT a parent, so I can not give any advice or opinion. I will only say that in our society within the last 30 years, children are given too much leeway in my opinion. I was in a restaurant a few years ago and two hellions on wheels (5 year oldish boys) were allowed to run around screaming and yelling and bothering other patrons and, yes, using foul language. The parents simply smiled and said "Boys will be boys".

Yea, right. My father would have pulled me out of there by my hair, and removed his belt before we got to the car. The thought of that kept me in line and well-behaved as a child. I sat and behaved simply because he scared the shit out of me.

I believe that children need to be taught "CONSEQUENCES" for their actions at the earliest possible age. Act like wild animals at a restaurant? There WILL be consequences. Grow up and shoot someone in the head because he cut you off in traffic? There WILL be consequences. IMO, that's what's missing, but as I stated, I'm not a parent, so I am only offering a humble opinion.

[hotandready1958]

For all those who think you shouldn't beat your kids you have a vagina because beating your kids buids character. There are many methods to make sure ur children listen 2 u because just going Jeffery stop doing that then the little shit keeps messing up the house. But if you fucking crack him in the back of the skull he will stop and think for a sec and realize "OH SHIT LETS NOT DISOBEY MOM/DAD" if it doesn't come to them after the first one then after a couple they will get the message. If u r a marshmallow and can't hit ur kid have ur respective husband/wife/girlfriend/boyfriend hit them so they get the message. Tell the child both of u mean it cause u can't hit ur kid but u have to stay united to disipline. :D

Here are some simple ways to disipline ur kids so they don't end up being a shit head in life.

Go to this site i highly reccomend this site for these steps.:D:D:D

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=beat you are a sick fuck hitting your kid it is wrong and you could really hurt them you are bigger and older you have to show them right from wrong and that dose not mean beat them some one should call dss on you how would you like it if some one that was bigger then you bet you

[hotandready1958]

He said beat, BEAT! Not just spank, actually beat them. That's abuse. Furthermore, spanking should only be used in situations where the child does something destructive which they could expect to be hit for. When they refuse to go to bed on a school night just let them stay up, and drag them to school exhausted the next day. In a few days they'll figure out why their eyes are bloodred...

Now if they break your lamp and refuse to clean it up, you can spank them.
yes your right if they will not go to bed then they will be tired and they will learn fast that when its bed time it bed and when they breake some thing then well they did the crime they have to do the time

[microman]

yes your right if they will not go to bed then they will be tired and they will learn fast that when its bed time it bed and when they breake some thing then well they did the crime they have to do the time

Look here if you would read the whole forum that would show that such an act I would never beat children into a bloody pulp I might like slap or spank but thats for more extreme occasions than just not doing their chores. So before you have the nerve to judge me because I said something in a slight offensive matter. I realize I even stated that wrong but I apologize later and clarify to everyone so don't ever state that with out all the facts buddy.

[microman]

Wow - this has got to be one of the worst I have seen here at bullshit. I really HOPE you just mis-worded here and are not REALLY that fucking sadistic and evil. "beating" your children, or ANYONE is a BAD idea!!! wow...

I am almost speechless... If someone is so mentally bankrupt that they cannot figgure out ANY other way to dicipline a child other than brute force, they are truly in need of professional help.. I am not saying that a simple spanking (hand on ass, 3 or 4 smacks) is out of line! but BEATINGS?

Again, as i have said before, kids arent stupid! actually this tactic (for some children) is getting off light... But if you are a sly parent who knows your child - you may discover that taking away the computer for a week is WAY WAY more "painfull" ..

But - I do not have children, so it is not my place to dictate to you how to raise a child.. I admit i have no fucking clue what is involved - but for christ sake - beating your children??? - that just seems wrong to me.

Ok look i will restate this so people can get the gist look I did not fucking beating your children till they go to the hospital. I miss stated the thread because when I posted I just thought about people that use the stupid new-age method of never scarring your child with words or just a spank. So I ranted and it blew up in my face so I would appreciate it if we could all stop the subject if you see I am a pretty decent guy read some other forums.