Barbara Kingsolver

[beelzebub]

I loved "Poisonwood Bible". Her rendition of life in Africa is often factual, sometimes exaggerated. Overall I thought the religious allusions to be hilarious and sad but true.

I had trouble following "Pigs in Heaven" & "The Bean Trees"

Comments?

[vulcan]

Hey Belzy, I wonder if you believe in God, in our Christ. If you enjoyed Poisonwood Bible, I wonder if you dont asked yourself what's going to happen when that biochemical reaction that we call life, stop in you whats going to happen?. Do you believe in a soul in an inmortal soul. A sould that may go in presence of God and be in communion the Lord for ever, do you ever think in Paradise? Do you believe in going to "the other side" and meet people like your family or friends or Christ himself? Or your life is only thinking in guys and having short affairs with your students in that University of yours? I dont know but you are very sad person if you do. The always stupid, vulcan.

[beelzebub]

Hey... The always stupid, vulcan.

You are very stupid.

[General Septem]

Overall I thought the religious allusions to be hilarious and sad but true.
Oh, probably another arrogant Atheist bitch with a lot of misguided ideas about religion then.

I find it kind of funny and I find it kind of sad (haha no that was not intentional) that you people claim to be smart, yet you say "oh, Christians believe this" or "oh, Christians believe that", and it's all a bunch of bullshit. But when someone who is actually in a position to say what Christians really believe, you just spout off about how smart you are, rather than trying to prove your bullshit assertion.

[beelzebub]

Oh, probably another arrogant Atheist bitch with a lot of misguided ideas about religion then.

I find it kind of funny and I find it kind of sad (haha no that was not intentional) that you people claim to be smart, yet you say "oh, Christians believe this" or "oh, Christians believe that", and it's all a bunch of bullshit. But when someone who is actually in a position to say what Christians really believe, you just spout off about how smart you are, rather than trying to prove your bullshit assertion.


Jeeze... bad day GS?

[General Septem]

Jeeze... bad day GS?
No, but ignorant assertions like the one you made tend to get on my nerves.

[beelzebub]

No, but ignorant assertions like the one you made tend to get on my nerves.

Have you read the Poisionwood Bible? Do you know what I am talking about?

The Poisonwood Bible is a story told by the wife and four daughters of Nathan Price, a fierce, evangelical Baptist who takes his family and mission to the Belgian Congo in 1959. They carry with them everything they believe they will need from home, but soon find that all of it--from garden seeds to Scripture--is calamitously transformed on African soil. What follows is a suspenseful epic of one family's tragic undoing and remarkable reconstruction over the course of three decades in postcolonial Africa.

[General Septem]

Have you read the Poisionwood Bible? Do you know what I am talking about?

"Overall I thought the religious allusions to be hilarious and sad but true."

Based on your opinion of religion, I know exactly what comments like this tend to mean. If you'd like to try and prove me wrong, you can explain exactly what you meant; I will admit I'm assuming something based on probably 95% odds.

[beelzebub]

"Overall I thought the religious allusions to be hilarious and sad but true."

Based on your opinion of religion, I know exactly what comments like this tend to mean. If you'd like to try and prove me wrong, you can explain exactly what you meant; I will admit I'm assuming something based on probably 95% odds.


Wow... so you fired off a arrogant and ignorant posting. Gee,... how typical.

Thats really sad GS. You need to think before you start writing crap.

[General Septem]

Wow... so you fired off a arrogant and ignorant posting. Gee,... how typical.

Thats really sad GS. You need to think before you start writing crap.

Yeah, but since you aren't trying to correct me, I can assume that my assertion was correct. Otherwise, no doubt you'd be explaining exactly what you meant by that statement. You know what you meant, and you know I know what you meant.

[beelzebub]

Yeah, but since you aren't trying to correct me, I can assume that my assertion was correct. Otherwise, no doubt you'd be explaining exactly what you meant by that statement. You know what you meant, and you know I know what you meant.

No, you are wrong. I just dont see the point in debating. This forum is about the literature. I would prefer discussing that with someone who has actually read the book.

[General Septem]

No, you are wrong. I just dont see the point in debating.
I won't debate with you. Alright, let me put it this way.

What exactly were these religious allusions, and what did you find funny/sad/true about them?

[beelzebub]

I won't debate with you. Alright, let me put it this way.

What exactly were these religious allusions, and what did you find funny/sad/true about them?

The story is about missonaries going to Africa. They are totally ignorant of the environment, the culture, and how live in their new world. They are narrow in their beliefs and see everything the natives do as backwards or sinfull. This has been the problem of countless issues with other religons. There are many allusions which critique the role missionaries are the "Great White Hope".

[General Septem]

See, you could've just said that to begin with. >_>

[beelzebub]

See, you could've just said that to begin with. >_>

Fuck you GS! Ignorant ass.

[General Septem]

Fuck you GS! Ignorant ass.

That's one thing I'll give you, you always make me laugh :D

[beelzebub]

That's one thing I'll give you, you always make me laugh :D

Unfortunately its one sided. You make me sad.

I would hope people such as yourself (intelligent and questioning) would find more out of this than playing petty games and refusing to listen to logic.

[General Septem]

Unfortunately its one sided. You make me sad.

I would hope people such as yourself (intelligent and questioning) would find more out of this than playing petty games and refusing to listen to logic.
Since when am I intelligent? :mad:

Er, I mean, what logic have I refused to listen to? :D

[beelzebub]

Since when am I intelligent? :mad: :D

Dont be silly. You are intelligent and anyone can see that in your postings! HOWEVER you lack experience and common sense (not implying that I am the guru of either). Anyone can see that in your postings!



Er, I mean, what logic have I refused to listen to? :D

Er,.. me and what I have said.

[General Septem]

Dont be silly. You are intelligent and anyone can see that in your postings! HOWEVER you lack experience and common sense (not implying that I am the guru of either). Anyone can see that in your postings!

I know, I was joking. Obviously I'm intelligent. :D


Er,.. me and what I have said.

List examples. There've been times I've listened to your logic. Other times I simply don't find it logical.

[Ape-Shit]

:D [quote=General Septem]Yeah, but since you aren't trying to correct me, I can assume that my assertion was correct. QUOTE]

I can correct you General!

Ha, Ha...!http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[General Septem]

I don't need to make an "ASS" out of "U". Your inability to properly quote people proves that point adequately.

[REPTILE]

LOL! Nice one General. :cool:

[REPTILE]

Apart from this nice little rank fest here, Many missionaries are understanding to other cultures. The experience is often mutual to both natives and the missionaries. They learn from eachother, and often times friendships blossom out of such things. You see, not all is bad :)

[beelzebub]

Apart from this nice little rank fest here, Many missionaries are understanding to other cultures. The experience is often mutual to both natives and the missionaries. They learn from eachother, and often times friendships blossom out of such things. You see, not all is bad :)

Not from my experience. I have had EXTENSIVE experience with these people. Most of the missonaries I have worked/interacted with are either jaded or bitter. Many are VERY nast to the host country nationals.

Some are not ............. but we are talking about the majority.

I should add that many are religously conceited.

[REPTILE]

Cant argue with you there I guess. I have heard of instances where the missionaries do more bad than good. Why they cant get along with other ppl is beyond me. But its nice to know that at least SOME of them actually help (I say that because I know of someone who has done such work and the enjoy what they do and who they meet.)

[ballzack]

Nothing speaks more, IMHO, then finding out what others are reading.

Interesting thread.

I read just about anything on the NY Times Bestseller list.

Love anything Political, Analytical, or Historical. All the "Cals"
I'm a NON-FICTION fan, but loved Fiction when I was younger.

I used to fly a lot for a living. Read more then. Now I mostly drive to my locations, and books on tape don't work for me.

[Paisleyspeaker]

The Poisonwood Bible is as amazing book. One I have read more than once (both before and after becoming a mother, I found it did change the experience. Those who have read it will understand. )
It touches on more themes than just missionaries and religion. It speaks about racism, greed and the relationships between men and women.

[General Septem]

Goddamn, this must be one old thread. :D

[Paisleyspeaker]

positivly anchient. But I hadn't seen it yet.:D

[beelzebub]

The Poisonwood Bible is as amazing book. One I have read more than once (both before and after becoming a mother, I found it did change the experience. Those who have read it will understand. )
It touches on more themes than just missionaries and religion. It speaks about racism, greed and the relationships between men and women.


Wow you like the PWB TOO! I knew we were one of a kind!

Your right... this is an ancient thread.