Why Muslims are Morons

[bchm]

OK - now that I've blow off my head of STEAM off over all of the anguish and emotional suffering that I’ve been through since 9/11 - I can hopefully settle into a more constructive approach to this issue. Let me say for the record that I don't hate Muslims! As a Christian - I am not supposed to hate anyone. As Christians, we are taught to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ - and He teaches us to love our fellow man - even our enemies! What an incredible ideology! That is a very hard ideology to live up to and though I’ve slipped and fallen, I have gotten back up determined to walk in the path of Jesus. Forgive me Jesus, for the sentiments of hatred that I have expressed against my Muslim brothers – for in my heart I truly know that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.

I’m sure that there are many, many peace-loving Muslims in the world who don’t subscribe to the hate dogma laid down by bin Laden and his crew – but one really has to wonder where in heck are all of the good Muslims? Why have we not heard from them? Where is there collective and massive condemnation of the Islamic extremists? Why do they not get equal time on Al-Jassir TV (pardon me if I misspelled that – but you know exactly who I’ve referring to) and openly state their case against all of the radical extremists? Why are they not telling the rest of the Muslim world that the radical extremist clerics are all FRAUDS and LIARS – and that they are NOT genuine spokesmen for Islam? The silence of the good Muslims is not only deafening, but even worse, it sends out the wrong message to the rest of the world that through all of their silence, they are quietly condoning the atrocities that are being carried out by the radicals and their followers. It is never too late to speak up and now more than ever, it is absolutely imperative that the good Muslims of the world come forward – en masse - to openly renounce Osama bin Laden and every single one of his followers – including all of the radical clerics and all of the Muslim extremists. They also need to make it abundantly clear to all would be suicide bombers that it is absolutely not the will of God that they sacrifice their own lives in the process of massacring other people for a cause that is not holy or justified in any way shape or form. They need to be told that they are being fed LIES by radicals who are not real Muslims but only would-be Muslims living under their own set of false rules and teachings. The would-be suicide bombers also must clearly be told, by all of the good Muslims of the world, that they will never go to heaven for carrying out acts of suicide bombing. They must come to know that there are absolutely no Heavenly rewards for destroying the body that God gave to them and killing others in the process as well.

In order for Islam to survive as a legitimate faith, it is absolutely imperative for the good Muslims of the world to come forward and unite with one another – and to speak out loudly in a powerful collective voice – and to tell the world that none of the men who hijacked the planes on 9/11 have made it to heaven – and that for their horrible acts, they may never enter into Heaven for all eternity. They must also tell the world that Osama bin Laden is a FRAUD as well as all of the clerics who follow his false teachings. They must clearly tell the world that Osama bin Laden and all of the radical clerics are not Muslims and that their teachings are a violation of the teachings of Islam. A large-scale wholesale condemnation by all of the good Muslims of the world of the radical Muslim extremists is absolutely imperative and long overdue. In my heart, I have to believe that the good Muslims in the world far outnumber the bad Muslims. It is already well past the time for the good Muslims to come forward and to speak their conscience to the world Loud and Clear. But at the same time, it is never too late. I firmly believe that the wholesale condemnation by the good Muslims of the world of suicide bombing will do far more to eliminate these horrible events than all of the bullets and bombs fired by the military forces fighting to counter terrorism all around the world. This is yet another situation where the pen – and the voice can be far mightier than the sword. And if all of the good Muslims of the world will come forward and condemn the radical extremists Muslims and all of their teachings and directives, then military actions around the world could be dramatically scaled back – saving thousands of lives and billions of dollars. And more importantly, there will be less hatred in the world for Muslims and more tolerance and acceptance of them. The bad Muslims of the world have created the problem and it is up to the good Muslims of the world to take the upper hand to resolve the problem and until that happens, there will unfortunately be more and more hatred expressed against Muslims. I am guilty of such hatred, but that hatred comes out of the losses that I have suffered because of the radical Muslims. As a Christian, I apologize to all Muslims for my previous posts on this forum and ask your understanding and forgiveness. And I also ask God to forgive me as well. I resign myself to following the teachings of Jesus Christ – for after meditation following my last post, it is the will of Jesus Christ that directed me to write this follow up letter. I want to wish peace, love and happiness to all of my brothers and sisters of the world – from every race, creed and color – from every nation, country, state, city and neighborhood all across the globe – I want all of you to know that I love each and every one of you - the good as well as the bad – I love all of you as brothers and sisters in Christ and I will pray for all of you. Let us not forget that each and every one of us will only be here on earth for a relatively short time, and that God is waiting for our return. Let us all vow here in this life never to follow the teachings of those who teach hatred but rather, to follow the leadership of those who teach LOVE.

[REPTILE]

*Quote: bchm - "All Muslims need to be Educated so that they can see that they are following a "religion" that was founded by a freak named Mohamed"

I agree that Mohamed was not a prophet, nor a good person to begin with. However, I also believe that you stereotyping Muslims as bomb wielding lunatics is wrong aswell.

*Quote: bchm - "Then hopefully, upon your enlightenment you will Dump Islam - and go out and find yourselves a REAL religion - one that doesn't breed insane sick followers who believe that they will be rewarded in "heaven" for carrying out horrible acts of hatred, terrorism and mass murder on other human beings!"

Terrorists are not muslims to begin with, they dont even follow the religions core beliefs of peace. Don't hate all islamic ppl because of what some assholes do. They're human beings like you and me. As for studying their religion, perhaps that wouldn't be such a bad thing, i mean not be an asshole, but in Christianity our prophet (Jesus) set the ultimate example of what being a truly good person is. And he never threatened ppl in order to make them believe in God. But either way its wrong to hate others, so don't label all Muslims as evil.

[freakazoid]

*Quote: bchm - "All Muslims need to be Educated so that they can see that they are following a "religion" that was founded by a freak named Mohamed"

I agree that Mohamed was not a prophet, nor a good person to begin with. However, I also believe that you stereotyping Muslims as bomb wielding lunatics is wrong aswell.

*Quote: bchm - "Then hopefully, upon your enlightenment you will Dump Islam - and go out and find yourselves a REAL religion - one that doesn't breed insane sick followers who believe that they will be rewarded in "heaven" for carrying out horrible acts of hatred, terrorism and mass murder on other human beings!"

Terrorists are not muslims to begin with, they dont even follow the religions core beliefs of peace. Don't hate all islamic ppl because of what some assholes do. They're human beings like you and me. As for studying their religion, perhaps that wouldn't be such a bad thing, i mean not be an asshole, but in Christianity our prophet (Jesus) set the ultimate example of what being a truly good person is. And he never threatened ppl in order to make them believe in God. But either way its wrong to hate others, so don't label all Muslims as evil.

There may be some stereotyping, that is true, but they have, generally speaking, brought it on themselves. I have yet to hear any muslim organization come out strongly against the terrorism of their islamic leaders and those involved in the terrorism. No islamic organization has made clear and strong denunciations of terrorism. A few individuals may have, but as a world wide religion, it is lacking any leadership that stands against the terror policies of groups like Al-Qaeda. Until that happens, such stereotyping (somewhat deserved) will continue.

[bchm]

OK - now that I've blow off my head of STEAM off over all of the anguish and emotional suffering that I’ve been through since 9/11 - I can hopefully settle into a more constructive approach to this issue. Let me say for the record that I don't hate Muslims! As a Christian - I am not supposed to hate anyone. As Christians, we are taught to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ - and He teaches us to love our fellow man - even our enemies! What an incredible ideology! That is a very hard ideology to live up to and though I’ve slipped and fallen, I have gotten back up determined to walk in the path of Jesus. Forgive me Jesus, for the sentiments of hatred that I have expressed against my Muslim brothers – for in my heart I truly know that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.

I’m sure that there are many, many peace-loving Muslims in the world who don’t subscribe to the hate dogma laid down by bin Laden and his crew – but one really has to wonder where in heck are all of the good Muslims? Why have we not heard from them? Where is there collective and massive condemnation of the Islamic extremists? Why do they not get equal time on Al-Jassir TV (pardon me if I misspelled that – but you know exactly who I’ve referring to) and openly state their case against all of the radical extremists? Why are they not telling the rest of the Muslim world that the radical extremist clerics are all FRAUDS and LIARS – and that they are NOT genuine spokesmen for Islam? The silence of the good Muslims is not only deafening, but even worse, it sends out the wrong message to the rest of the world that through all of their silence, they are quietly condoning the atrocities that are being carried out by the radicals and their followers. It is never too late to speak up and now more than ever, it is absolutely imperative that the good Muslims of the world come forward – en masse - to openly renounce Osama bin Laden and every single one of his followers – including all of the radical clerics and all of the Muslim extremists. They also need to make it abundantly clear to all would be suicide bombers that it is absolutely not the will of God that they sacrifice their own lives in the process of massacring other people for a cause that is not holy or justified in any way shape or form. They need to be told that they are being fed LIES by radicals who are not real Muslims but only would-be Muslims living under their own set of false rules and teachings. The would-be suicide bombers also must clearly be told, by all of the good Muslims of the world, that they will never go to heaven for carrying out acts of suicide bombing. They must come to know that there are absolutely no Heavenly rewards for destroying the body that God gave to them and killing others in the process as well.

In order for Islam to survive as a legitimate faith, it is absolutely imperative for the good Muslims of the world to come forward and unite with one another – and to speak out loudly in a powerful collective voice – and to tell the world that none of the men who hijacked the planes on 9/11 have made it to heaven – and that for their horrible acts, they may never enter into Heaven for all eternity. They must also tell the world that Osama bin Laden is a FRAUD as well as all of the clerics who follow his false teachings. They must clearly tell the world that Osama bin Laden and all of the radical clerics are not Muslims and that their teachings are a violation of the teachings of Islam. A large-scale wholesale condemnation by all of the good Muslims of the world of the radical Muslim extremists is absolutely imperative and long overdue. In my heart, I have to believe that the good Muslims in the world far outnumber the bad Muslims. It is already well past the time for the good Muslims to come forward and to speak their conscience to the world Loud and Clear. But at the same time, it is never too late. I firmly believe that the wholesale condemnation by the good Muslims of the world of suicide bombing will do far more to eliminate these horrible events than all of the bullets and bombs fired by the military forces fighting to counter terrorism all around the world. This is yet another situation where the pen – and the voice can be far mightier than the sword. And if all of the good Muslims of the world will come forward and condemn the radical extremists Muslims and all of their teachings and directives, then military actions around the world could be dramatically scaled back – saving thousands of lives and billions of dollars. And more importantly, there will be less hatred in the world for Muslims and more tolerance and acceptance of them. The bad Muslims of the world have created the problem and it is up to the good Muslims of the world to take the upper hand to resolve the problem and until that happens, there will unfortunately be more and more hatred expressed against Muslims. I am guilty of such hatred, but that hatred comes out of the losses that I have suffered because of the radical Muslims. As a Christian, I apologize to all Muslims for my previous posts on this forum and ask your understanding and forgiveness. And I also ask God to forgive me as well. I resign myself to following the teachings of Jesus Christ – for after meditation following my last post, it is the will of Jesus Christ that directed me to write this follow up letter. I want to wish peace, love and happiness to all of my brothers and sisters of the world – from every race, creed and color – from every nation, country, state, city and neighborhood all across the globe – I want all of you to know that I love each and every one of you - the good as well as the bad – I love all of you as brothers and sisters in Christ and I will pray for all of you. Let us not forget that each and every one of us will only be here on earth for a relatively short time, and that God is waiting for our return. Let us all vow here in this life never to follow the teachings of those who teach hatred but rather, to follow the leadership of those who teach LOVE.

[tpot]

1stly there is no reason 2 put down ne muslims in anyway! da biggest terrorist, are in actual fact da American Government...wif der ideological ways n "bully nation" like behaviour, dey can suck on every muslim mans crack! Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, but America destroyed them, Afganistan was all good, but 4 da control of major oil pipe line 2 da caspean sea, the Americans Fucked wif dem 2... if url gat ur facts right, 9/11 was caused by no 1 else but the American Government, dis was ploy 2 generate sympathy 4 a nation with losing world support!

Secoundly, the Americans hav the dumbest president by far...i mean if he was not a bush, i dnt think he wud hav past his schooling days...

So basically, the Americans r lead by a "Moron"...like the rats lead by da pide-piper! lol

but da ppl i pity da most are the Americans, cos dey r oblivous of wat is goin on around dem in da world at large...

SHAME!

[muslimsrule]

muslims rule ! go us !american suck c0ck u bastads u go fck ur mum/well not all amercians, most of em (ghey ones)/ you guys go do buttrape c0ck rape have ghey marriage laws so u dont have to do proper sex so u can do buttrape u a bchm i cum fck u . u americans have bullsh!ted president bush what the fck is he he is always trying to make ghey laws so he can fck ppl!!! he is ghey what the fck he is so ghey.. bush wanted to throw at corneila rice or whatever cause she had black skin (this is very true). i mean bush is ghey he cheates in the goverment like those ppl in prison break man.. them ftards..american suck c0ck .so stop being bastads vote for that kerry guy bush wants war he wants to be sum power ful noob and remmeber FCK THE UN THEY DONT DO ANYTHONG , JUST SUPPORT BUSH!! remembre fck u made this post , plus its not funny, who has aucutally laughed for this bullsh!t?

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

I read BCHM's post and was moved by his words. I'm disapointed to see replies to it that indicate how poorly people interpreted his intentions. I admire people if they truly are able to live up to the convinctions that BCHM posed of himself, to love his enemy and to truly follow the leadership of those who teach love. I only wish that I had the will power to follow through on such convinctions more often.

[retortionist]

I also think BCHM's comments are being misinterpretted and unfortunately open blog forums also allow those of lesser intelligence to voice unmitigated views making all laters readers dumber for the experience.

Pity the comments were listed on a site with a name like this one, which attracts propagators of exactly that along with normal people.

Why not head off and butcher the english language somewhere else.

Diatribe aside:
What would be really great is if some mainstream Muslim's joined in this discussion and helped all to understand what Islam really is.

While I think your comments about Muslims and their education levels was a bit to generalised I agree that without a doubt, those less fortunate Muslim people living all over the world in poverty under hardline religious regimes and within Kingdoms are understandably susceptible to being indoctrinated by perpetrators of radical ideologies.

What we really need to do is try to influence wealthy countries who are financially holding millions of people to financial ransom in to creating revenue streams for peoples standards of living and therefore luxuries like further education to become more accessible.

The real losers out in this whole situation are the young children who's parents have been killed in conflicts. Without parental guidance and older members of societies to set examples of how real Muslims live their lives, this problem will continue to exist.

If we in the west can come up with a way of helping these peoples to become more financially active and successful on the global stage we may begin to change this process.

The attempts of the USA to try this via force is never going to make major inroads when the children of the countries they are trying to change are being orphaned in the US's "road map to peace".

This kind of action only results in the next generation hating the US, pro-longing the issue and improving the environment that current incubates the following of these radical cells.

When you have nothing left, family, money or future and are promised all your wildest dreams will come true through adopting a radical faith, you as a child cannot be held accountable for understandably following the one hand that is being outstretched to your aid.

We could invite Dubya to listen and maybe learn something.

(Apologies for my space bar key not working intermittently)

[who897]

1stly there is no reason 2 put down ne muslims in anyway! da biggest terrorist, are in actual fact da American Government...wif der ideological ways n "bully nation" like behaviour, dey can suck on every muslim mans crack! Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, but America destroyed them, Afganistan was all good, but 4 da control of major oil pipe line 2 da caspean sea, the Americans Fucked wif dem 2... if url gat ur facts right, 9/11 was caused by no 1 else but the American Government, dis was ploy 2 generate sympathy 4 a nation with losing world support!

Secoundly, the Americans hav the dumbest president by far...i mean if he was not a bush, i dnt think he wud hav past his schooling days...

So basically, the Americans r lead by a "Moron"...like the rats lead by da pide-piper! lol

but da ppl i pity da most are the Americans, cos dey r oblivous of wat is goin on around dem in da world at large...

SHAME!


Funny you should mention someone's lack of education there bubby. Seeing as your having a hard time spelling anything correctly and most of it is jibberish. I pitty the fool who don't use 1800 Collect. Actually we have a better understanding of the world around us then most other countries, you think the Chinesse citizen knows more? The fact that we do know what is going on with the world, is probalby the greatest reason why other countries dislike us so. We Pride ourselves on our knowledge of world events, we take pride in our country. It's a shame other people don't take pride in their own countries, all they can do is twist our pride and call it arrogance so they can justify their annomosity towards us.

[normlman]

muslims rule ! go us !american suck c0ck u bastads u go fck ur mum/well not all amercians, most of em (ghey ones)/ you guys go do buttrape c0ck rape have ghey marriage laws so u dont have to do proper sex so u can do buttrape u a bchm i cum fck u . u americans have bullsh!ted president bush what the fck is he he is always trying to make ghey laws so he can fck ppl!!! he is ghey what the fck he is so ghey.. bush wanted to throw at corneila rice or whatever cause she had black skin (this is very true). i mean bush is ghey he cheates in the goverment like those ppl in prison break man.. them ftards..american suck c0ck .so stop being bastads vote for that kerry guy bush wants war he wants to be sum power ful noob and remmeber FCK THE UN THEY DONT DO ANYTHONG , JUST SUPPORT BUSH!! remembre fck u made this post , plus its not funny, who has aucutally laughed for this bullsh!t?


One could only imagine all that ghey (wtf?) talk would come from some
fruity-ass muslim, shit-for-brains!
NORML --- 'out'

[normlman]

One could only imagine all that ghey (wtf?) talk would come from some
fruity-ass muslim, shit-for-brains!
NORML --- 'out'



....<ca-cughm> I guess I should apologize to the Muslim community, as only clever and cheerful posts are accepted in this thread.

I'll express respectful apologies at you funerals.

NORMLman

[General Septem]

....<ca-cughm> I guess I should apologize to the Muslim community, as only clever and cheerful posts are accepted in this thread.

I'll express respectful apologies at you funerals.

NORMLman
You should never post when under the imfluence of meth, kids.

[normlman]

You should never post when under the imfluence of meth, kids.
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classic wisdom folks.



NORMLman

[TheAvenger]

(muslims rule ! go us !american suck c0ck u bastads u go fck ur mum/well not all amercians, most of em (ghey ones)/ you guys go do buttrape c0ck rape have ghey marriage laws so u dont have to do proper sex so u can do buttrape u a bchm i cum fck u . u americans have bullsh!ted president bush what the fck is he he is always trying to make ghey laws so he can fck ppl!!! he is ghey what the fck he is so ghey.. bush wanted to throw at corneila rice or whatever cause she had black skin (this is very true). i mean bush is ghey he cheates in the goverment like those ppl in prison break man.. them ftards..american suck c0ck .so stop being bastads vote for that kerry guy bush wants war he wants to be sum power ful noob and remmeber FCK THE UN THEY DONT DO ANYTHONG , JUST SUPPORT BUSH!! remembre fck u made this post , plus its not funny, who has aucutally laughed for this bullsh!t?)

So, what are you saying???


P.S. Are U from Great Britain by any chance?

[Ausinus]

Why people who think muslims are morons are morons;

They are either christian fundamentalists or patriots, both of which are morons.

Its not like terrorism and fanaticism is exclusive to Islam, look at all the christian fundies who have assaulted abortionists and sent fake anthrax to and blown up abortion clinics, and Jewish groups like Hammas. Its the people that believe all Muslims are like this that breed intolerance and tension in this society. Look at the Cronulla Riots.

IMO, all religions are bullshit, but many people who follow each of them are actually very nice people. Thats more than I can say of some of the fuckwits that come on this forum, like the person who started this thread.

To all the people that agreed with Bchm; fuck you, I hope that you dont reproduce.

[General Septem]

Its not like terrorism and fanaticism is exclusive to Islam, look at all the christian fundies who have assaulted abortionists and sent fake anthrax to and blown up abortion clinics, and Jewish groups like Hammas. Its the people that believe all Muslims are like this that breed intolerance and tension in this society. Look at the Cronulla Riots.

And even at that, none of these acts of terrorism have been proven to be by any of their alleged perpetrators.

[Ausinus]

And even at that, none of these acts of terrorism have been proven to be by any of their alleged perpetrators.

James Charles Kopp, Christian Identity, Army of God, Eric Rudolph, these are christian people and groups who have been proven to have engaged in acts of terrorism.

[General Septem]

James Charles Kopp, Christian Identity, Army of God, Eric Rudolph, these are christian people and groups who have been proven to have engaged in acts of terrorism.

Along with Timothy McVeigh? Please.

[Ausinus]

Im not sure but you mean by that, but the people and groups I have listed above have been proven to be directly involved in, or advocating, christian terrorism.

[General Septem]

Im not sure but you mean by that, but the people and groups I have listed above have been proven to be directly involved in, or advocating, christian terrorism.

I've never heard of the ones you posted, but some would say the same of Timothy McVeigh. Do you know who he is?

[Ausinus]

Hm, he bombed something in protest to the gulf war, is that right?

Eric Rudolph - Christian Identity member who bombed a gay nightclub and Centennial Olympic park
Christian Identity - Fundamentalist terrorist group who believes that armageddon will be a battle between the whites and everyone else.
Army of God - Right wing christian terrorist group involved in several assaults and murders of abortionists.
James Charles Kopp - Broke into and entered an abortionists house and shot him in cold blood.

[General Septem]

Hm, he bombed something in protest to the gulf war, is that right?

He allegedly bombed a hospital in Oklahoma City, supposedly for Christian reasons (he was Catholic). However, the official investigation ignored the fact that there was a second man in the truck, the truck could not have blown out all those support columns, and that more unexploded bombs were found in the building, proving he could not possibly have acted alone. Yet they insisted he was working entirely alone.

[Ausinus]

Why would he bomb a hospital for religious reasons? It sounds like a fallacious connection to me. Far more likely he did it for personal or protesting reasons.

But the people I listed have actually stated their motives as being in the name of god.

[who897]

Man that was not a hospital...it was a federal building. The bomb just happened to take out the daycare center inside the building, which I am guessing you are saying was the "hospital".