Why Muslims are Morons

[bchm]

OK - now that I've blow off my head of STEAM off over all of the anguish and emotional suffering that I’ve been through since 9/11 - I can hopefully settle into a more constructive approach to this issue. Let me say for the record that I don't hate Muslims! As a Christian - I am not supposed to hate anyone. As Christians, we are taught to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ - and He teaches us to love our fellow man - even our enemies! What an incredible ideology! That is a very hard ideology to live up to and though I’ve slipped and fallen, I have gotten back up determined to walk in the path of Jesus. Forgive me Jesus, for the sentiments of hatred that I have expressed against my Muslim brothers – for in my heart I truly know that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.

I’m sure that there are many, many peace-loving Muslims in the world who don’t subscribe to the hate dogma laid down by bin Laden and his crew – but one really has to wonder where in heck are all of the good Muslims? Why have we not heard from them? Where is there collective and massive condemnation of the Islamic extremists? Why do they not get equal time on Al-Jassir TV (pardon me if I misspelled that – but you know exactly who I’ve referring to) and openly state their case against all of the radical extremists? Why are they not telling the rest of the Muslim world that the radical extremist clerics are all FRAUDS and LIARS – and that they are NOT genuine spokesmen for Islam? The silence of the good Muslims is not only deafening, but even worse, it sends out the wrong message to the rest of the world that through all of their silence, they are quietly condoning the atrocities that are being carried out by the radicals and their followers. It is never too late to speak up and now more than ever, it is absolutely imperative that the good Muslims of the world come forward – en masse - to openly renounce Osama bin Laden and every single one of his followers – including all of the radical clerics and all of the Muslim extremists. They also need to make it abundantly clear to all would be suicide bombers that it is absolutely not the will of God that they sacrifice their own lives in the process of massacring other people for a cause that is not holy or justified in any way shape or form. They need to be told that they are being fed LIES by radicals who are not real Muslims but only would-be Muslims living under their own set of false rules and teachings. The would-be suicide bombers also must clearly be told, by all of the good Muslims of the world, that they will never go to heaven for carrying out acts of suicide bombing. They must come to know that there are absolutely no Heavenly rewards for destroying the body that God gave to them and killing others in the process as well.

In order for Islam to survive as a legitimate faith, it is absolutely imperative for the good Muslims of the world to come forward and unite with one another – and to speak out loudly in a powerful collective voice – and to tell the world that none of the men who hijacked the planes on 9/11 have made it to heaven – and that for their horrible acts, they may never enter into Heaven for all eternity. They must also tell the world that Osama bin Laden is a FRAUD as well as all of the clerics who follow his false teachings. They must clearly tell the world that Osama bin Laden and all of the radical clerics are not Muslims and that their teachings are a violation of the teachings of Islam. A large-scale wholesale condemnation by all of the good Muslims of the world of the radical Muslim extremists is absolutely imperative and long overdue. In my heart, I have to believe that the good Muslims in the world far outnumber the bad Muslims. It is already well past the time for the good Muslims to come forward and to speak their conscience to the world Loud and Clear. But at the same time, it is never too late. I firmly believe that the wholesale condemnation by the good Muslims of the world of suicide bombing will do far more to eliminate these horrible events than all of the bullets and bombs fired by the military forces fighting to counter terrorism all around the world. This is yet another situation where the pen – and the voice can be far mightier than the sword. And if all of the good Muslims of the world will come forward and condemn the radical extremists Muslims and all of their teachings and directives, then military actions around the world could be dramatically scaled back – saving thousands of lives and billions of dollars. And more importantly, there will be less hatred in the world for Muslims and more tolerance and acceptance of them. The bad Muslims of the world have created the problem and it is up to the good Muslims of the world to take the upper hand to resolve the problem and until that happens, there will unfortunately be more and more hatred expressed against Muslims. I am guilty of such hatred, but that hatred comes out of the losses that I have suffered because of the radical Muslims. As a Christian, I apologize to all Muslims for my previous posts on this forum and ask your understanding and forgiveness. And I also ask God to forgive me as well. I resign myself to following the teachings of Jesus Christ – for after meditation following my last post, it is the will of Jesus Christ that directed me to write this follow up letter. I want to wish peace, love and happiness to all of my brothers and sisters of the world – from every race, creed and color – from every nation, country, state, city and neighborhood all across the globe – I want all of you to know that I love each and every one of you - the good as well as the bad – I love all of you as brothers and sisters in Christ and I will pray for all of you. Let us not forget that each and every one of us will only be here on earth for a relatively short time, and that God is waiting for our return. Let us all vow here in this life never to follow the teachings of those who teach hatred but rather, to follow the leadership of those who teach LOVE.

[beelzebub]

All Christians need to be Educated so that they can see that they are following a "religion" that was founded by a freak named Jesus (hey - zeus) who was a cult leader, tyrrant, a False Prophet, a Liar and the Pseudo-Christ. Therefore, the "religion" that hey-zeus founded - Christianity - is Total BULLSHIT!!! Jesus (hey-zeus) is totally full of BULLSHIT!!! So to all christians of the world - take some time to learn all about the origin of your "religion" and when do - you will discover the Real TRUTH about the origin of Christianity - and the False Prophet that started it all. Then hopefully, upon your enlightenment you will Dump christianity - and go out and find yourselves a REAL religion - one that doesn't breed insane sick followers who believe that they will be rewarded in "heaven" for carrying out horrible acts of hatred, terrorism and mass murder on other human beings!
Get Educated and Get the Message!
- Christianity is BULLSHIT!!! - It's not a religion at all - it's a CULT!
- Jesus is totally full of BULLSHIT!!! - Follow his teachings and you will Never get to Heaven - and even worse, if you follow the teachings of the extremist Christian leaders, you will definitely wind up in HELL! :eek

[Ape-Shit]

You are 100 percent right Beelzebub....! WoW....! That was, without dought, a very Good and Accurate Post. Thanks.http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[REPTILE]

Jesus a false prophet huh. I guess thats why he loved us so much he died for us all and spent his life helping ppl. If thats your idea of a false prophet I'd like to know what you would believe to be a real prophet. You call us Narrow minded yet you refuse no matter what to believe that there's a higher power out there that created life as you know it, perhaps the Narrow minded one has been you all along. And how was he a tyrrant, seems like your talking out of your ass like you usually do, nothing new i guess. Sad thing is Jesus loves you even tho you talk shit about him, maybe the founder was an extremist (I don't mind)

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Christians ... are following a "religion" that was founded by ...Jesus ...the Pseudo-Christ.

While I disagree with your entire post, I just had to point out this large flaw. How can Christ be the Pseudo-Christ? Pseudo means not authentic, yet the orignal is the only one who can claim complete authenticity.

[beelzebub]

Jesus a false prophet huh. I ....... the founder was an extremist (I don't mind)

I was just responding to bchm's first response. Trading Mohammed's name for Jesus.

However it did come out rather in line ( but a tad extreme) with the way I see it.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Yes, I I noticed that what you were saying was almost word for word the previous statement with Jesus put in the place of Mohamad. Still, it could not be further from truth. If you were to just follow the teachings of either man without actually subscribing to either religion, you would be praised by anyone you meet for following the teachings of Jesus, while ridiculed by many for doing that which Mohamed teached.

[shousha]

hey mother fucker , ur the one who need to be educated asshole... nd by the way if u dont life our islam "RELIGION" u bitch so dnt even bother and woreship it and mind ur own fucken bussiness
BITCH

[joshua]

shut up bchm ,,,u dont know anything about my religion but i feel ur sick fucked up mind is trying to get the people in here to hate muslims and try to show us as '''sick followers'' but truly my religion in contrary of ur sick media allegations. my religion condemn all violence attackes and prophet mohammed:rolleyes: himself call to respect other religions,,and peace,:eek: yes peace ,,

and who u callin commited horrible acts of hatred terorism and mass murder; let me explain something ; the war in iraq that resulted of 72000 kills 80 % of them are cicilians thats what i call terrorism ,,the attacks on the new york bridge that was terrorism,,israeli war on lebanon that too ,,in kosovo and the holocost ,,millions of jews and muslims are killed ,THAT S MASS MURDER
WELL ,,WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO IS ATTCKING OTHER HUMAN BEINGS IVE GOT AN IDEA MAYBE WE ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS MAYBE FROM MARS OR SATURN ,,,,get educated first u dum shit ,,u are as silly as dick cheney shooting his boyfreind:D ;)

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

:rolleyes: Isn't it always so much easier to agree with someone when they come in here calling names, swearing and using horrible English skills while screaming that everyone else needs to be educated?:rolleyes:

Try this, instead of spouting things out of your ass and saying that the rest of us need to be educated, you should take some of your own advice and at least act educated yourself. If you truly know about this little topic, maybe you could try educating us on the key points, because we certaintly aren't going to think any more of Muslims or yourself from reading what you've been posting here.

[bchm]

OK - now that I've blow off my head of STEAM off over all of the anguish and emotional suffering that I’ve been through since 9/11 - I can hopefully settle into a more constructive approach to this issue. Let me say for the record that I don't hate Muslims! As a Christian - I am not supposed to hate anyone. As Christians, we are taught to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ - and He teaches us to love our fellow man - even our enemies! What an incredible ideology! That is a very hard ideology to live up to and though I’ve slipped and fallen, I have gotten back up determined to walk in the path of Jesus. Forgive me Jesus, for the sentiments of hatred that I have expressed against my Muslim brothers – for in my heart I truly know that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.

I’m sure that there are many, many peace-loving Muslims in the world who don’t subscribe to the hate dogma laid down by bin Laden and his crew – but one really has to wonder where in heck are all of the good Muslims? Why have we not heard from them? Where is there collective and massive condemnation of the Islamic extremists? Why do they not get equal time on Al-Jassir TV (pardon me if I misspelled that – but you know exactly who I’ve referring to) and openly state their case against all of the radical extremists? Why are they not telling the rest of the Muslim world that the radical extremist clerics are all FRAUDS and LIARS – and that they are NOT genuine spokesmen for Islam? The silence of the good Muslims is not only deafening, but even worse, it sends out the wrong message to the rest of the world that through all of their silence, they are quietly condoning the atrocities that are being carried out by the radicals and their followers. It is never too late to speak up and now more than ever, it is absolutely imperative that the good Muslims of the world come forward – en masse - to openly renounce Osama bin Laden and every single one of his followers – including all of the radical clerics and all of the Muslim extremists. They also need to make it abundantly clear to all would be suicide bombers that it is absolutely not the will of God that they sacrifice their own lives in the process of massacring other people for a cause that is not holy or justified in any way shape or form. They need to be told that they are being fed LIES by radicals who are not real Muslims but only would-be Muslims living under their own set of false rules and teachings. The would-be suicide bombers also must clearly be told, by all of the good Muslims of the world, that they will never go to heaven for carrying out acts of suicide bombing. They must come to know that there are absolutely no Heavenly rewards for destroying the body that God gave to them and killing others in the process as well.

In order for Islam to survive as a legitimate faith, it is absolutely imperative for the good Muslims of the world to come forward and unite with one another – and to speak out loudly in a powerful collective voice – and to tell the world that none of the men who hijacked the planes on 9/11 have made it to heaven – and that for their horrible acts, they may never enter into Heaven for all eternity. They must also tell the world that Osama bin Laden is a FRAUD as well as all of the clerics who follow his false teachings. They must clearly tell the world that Osama bin Laden and all of the radical clerics are not Muslims and that their teachings are a violation of the teachings of Islam. A large-scale wholesale condemnation by all of the good Muslims of the world of the radical Muslim extremists is absolutely imperative and long overdue. In my heart, I have to believe that the good Muslims in the world far outnumber the bad Muslims. It is already well past the time for the good Muslims to come forward and to speak their conscience to the world Loud and Clear. But at the same time, it is never too late. I firmly believe that the wholesale condemnation by the good Muslims of the world of suicide bombing will do far more to eliminate these horrible events than all of the bullets and bombs fired by the military forces fighting to counter terrorism all around the world. This is yet another situation where the pen – and the voice can be far mightier than the sword. And if all of the good Muslims of the world will come forward and condemn the radical extremists Muslims and all of their teachings and directives, then military actions around the world could be dramatically scaled back – saving thousands of lives and billions of dollars. And more importantly, there will be less hatred in the world for Muslims and more tolerance and acceptance of them. The bad Muslims of the world have created the problem and it is up to the good Muslims of the world to take the upper hand to resolve the problem and until that happens, there will unfortunately be more and more hatred expressed against Muslims. I am guilty of such hatred, but that hatred comes out of the losses that I have suffered because of the radical Muslims. As a Christian, I apologize to all Muslims for my previous posts on this forum and ask your understanding and forgiveness. And I also ask God to forgive me as well. I resign myself to following the teachings of Jesus Christ – for after meditation following my last post, it is the will of Jesus Christ that directed me to write this follow up letter. I want to wish peace, love and happiness to all of my brothers and sisters of the world – from every race, creed and color – from every nation, country, state, city and neighborhood all across the globe – I want all of you to know that I love each and every one of you - the good as well as the bad – I love all of you as brothers and sisters in Christ and I will pray for all of you. Let us not forget that each and every one of us will only be here on earth for a relatively short time, and that God is waiting for our return. Let us all vow here in this life never to follow the teachings of those who teach hatred but rather, to follow the leadership of those who teach LOVE.

[freakazoid]

Jesus a false prophet huh. I guess thats why he loved us so much he died for us all and spent his life helping ppl. If thats your idea of a false prophet I'd like to know what you would believe to be a real prophet. You call us Narrow minded yet you refuse no matter what to believe that there's a higher power out there that created life as you know it, perhaps the Narrow minded one has been you all along. And how was he a tyrrant, seems like your talking out of your ass like you usually do, nothing new i guess. Sad thing is Jesus loves you even tho you talk shit about him, maybe the founder was an extremist (I don't mind)

RIGHT ON!!!

[freakazoid]

All Christians need to be Educated so that they can see that they are following a "religion" that was founded by a freak named Jesus (hey - zeus) who was a cult leader, tyrrant, a False Prophet, a Liar and the Pseudo-Christ. Therefore, the "religion" that hey-zeus founded - Christianity - is Total BULLSHIT!!! Jesus (hey-zeus) is totally full of BULLSHIT!!! So to all christians of the world - take some time to learn all about the origin of your "religion" and when do - you will discover the Real TRUTH about the origin of Christianity - and the False Prophet that started it all. Then hopefully, upon your enlightenment you will Dump christianity - and go out and find yourselves a REAL religion - one that doesn't breed insane sick followers who believe that they will be rewarded in "heaven" for carrying out horrible acts of hatred, terrorism and mass murder on other human beings!
Get Educated and Get the Message!
- Christianity is BULLSHIT!!! - It's not a religion at all - it's a CULT!
- Jesus is totally full of BULLSHIT!!! - Follow his teachings and you will Never get to Heaven - and even worse, if you follow the teachings of the extremist Christian leaders, you will definitely wind up in HELL! :eek

beelzebub...there WILL come a day when you will deeply regret your words. That day is one you can't escape.

[REPTILE]

Man, the hairs on my arm literally just stood up when I read that.

*Freakazoid - "beelzebub...there WILL come a day when you will deeply regret your words. That day is one you can't escape."

[beelzebub]

beelzebub...there WILL come a day when you will deeply regret your words. That day is one you can't escape.

Gimme a break Freak and save me your apocalyptic view of existence. I will never regret those words. There was nothing wrong with them ... they are just words and thoughts.

Working in your parameters:
If your god would burn me for not prostrating myself in front of it and worshiping then so be it. I would prefer hell to being in church forever. Besides after a few thousand years of burning it will become normal everyday existence.

Why serve in heaven when you can rule in hell?

[beelzebub]

Man, the hairs on my arm literally just stood up when I read that.

*Freakazoid - "beelzebub...there WILL come a day when you will deeply regret your words. That day is one you can't escape."

Reptiles don't have hairs, especially pickeled reptiles.

[General Septem]

Besides after a few thousand years of burning it will become normal everyday existence.

It's not just some place you go to and it's on fire and all that shit, it's a place that is completely void of any kind of joy or enjoyment. Whatever you enjoy, it will not be there or you won't enjoy it. It's just pain. Even if you enjoy pain here, you won't.

[beelzebub]

It's not just some place you go to and it's on fire and all that shit, it's a place that is completely void of any kind of joy or enjoyment. Whatever you enjoy, it will not be there or you won't enjoy it. It's just pain. Even if you enjoy pain here, you won't.

Lions & Tigers & Bears - OH MY!

Tell me what it was like before you were born GS? For you... not for the world.

[General Septem]

Tell me what it was like before you were born GS?
Why ask me when you can read a history book? Oh, because American patriots have rewritten history. Yeah, forgot about that.

[who897]

I think we need to regress to Zeus, Hera, Aprodite, etc etc. I mean, if we are gonna be idiots and religious, we might as well be religious idiots. I haven't really read of any wars or mass genocide (just cuz I didn't read about it doesn't mean it didn't happen, but I guess it didn't make it in print so apparently it wasn't that big of a deal) dictated by the will of the gods. Now I know they prayed to theirs for protection in battle, but for the most part the gods stayed outta the lives of the mortals. Of course we might have to deal w/ giant cyclopes running around, but I think it would be a good trade off to get these silly folks off the streets w/ bombs around their waist. Plus I'm kinda getting sick of the whole 25 churches in a town with only 10 buisnesses. Most towns back then only prayed to their one favorite.

P.S. Dang some people can write books, it's kinda hard to laugh at something when it's putting me to sleep. Can ya dumb it down a bit.

[REPTILE]

* Beelzebub - "Reptiles don't have hairs, especially pickeled reptiles."

I'm a living, breathing Dragon

[vulcan]

And belzy the faggot the one who fuck guys in the ass knows all this and is full of hate against Christianity because Christianity is against HOMOSEXUALITY, and Belzy cant tolarate this, because and let not to forget this is a PROFESSOR, teaching young guys and fucking them at the same time. BELZY Fuck you.

[monty_k]

I’m sure that there are many, many peace-loving Muslims in the world who don’t subscribe to the hate dogma laid down by bin Laden and his crew – but one really has to wonder where in heck are all of the good Muslims? Why have we not heard from them?

Huh....dude. They have. It just that these peace statements are not as entertaining and are not advertise by the news as much. Don't forget that you live in a country where the amount of information you get is very controled (I'm sure you don't think so but...trust me you do). If you want the information, you need to seek it. If you go to other countries in the world and watch their news, you will see much about muslim peace and muslim leaders talking about what happened. It seems the only we see on the news here is muslim hating the US and "bad guys"...no wonder you guys have this view of the mulsim world. Everyone need to realize that what they know is only PART of the truth. The kinda truth that would give americans the will to support their president in war because they think that they are truly going after the bad guy and are truly helping people.....LOL.....it's all about money, every country is about money and this whole war is about money. George Bush was an executive for a corporation before getting into politics, and who were the main investor of this corporation that by the way made him and his family and many other people stinky rich? The Bin Laden family, who right after 9/11 were flew out by a private escort out of the country. When the FBI director was steaming, not understanding why they didn't give him a chance to interogate them. Watch fareinhet 9/11, is good.

[monty_k]

Lions & Tigers & Bears - OH MY!

Tell me what it was like before you were born GS? For you... not for the world.

You're an interesting character...what's that big fly suppose to be? Is it to threw us off? Come on....you're not fooling anyone. You parents were christian, and were kind of rude to you weren't they? That's why you hate religion today right? Well, you are entitled to you opinion, but let's not be insulting of other people's point of view now.

[beelzebub]

You're an interesting character...what's that big fly suppose to be? Is it to threw us off?

Throw you off? Throw you off what? I use Beelzebub because I like it.

I don’t believe in the supernatural. - If that answers your question.


Come on....you're not fooling anyone. You parents were christian, and were kind of rude to you weren't they? That's why you hate religion today right?

My parent’s religious beliefs are not important in this situation. They were not rude to me. I hate religion because its bunk. It’s like believing in Santa & the tooth fairy.


Well, you are entitled to you opinion, but let's not be insulting of other people's point of view now.

If someone is insulted by my opinion that’s their problem, not mine.

[General Septem]

I hate religion because its bunk.
See, that's the problem with you Atheists. You have no problem with hating anything. We Christians don't hate anyone.

[beelzebub]

See, that's the problem with you Atheists. You have no problem with hating anything. We Christians don't hate anyone.

You are ignorant, blind or stupid.

Christians have hated many people. There are volumes of evidence. I will give you the recent:

http://i.xanga.com/chrisgunson/phelps1.jpg

Look the rest up for yourself. I cant be bothered.

[General Septem]

Christians have hated many people.

No true Christian hates anyone, because Jesus's very message was to love thy neighbor as yourself. Anyone who hates anyone else is not carrying out the word of God (i.e., they are wrong).


http://i.xanga.com/chrisgunson/phelps1.jpg

Ignorant words from a stupid redneck who is so insecure that he has to shield his own personal prejudice by claiming it is a religious belief. The God I worship does not hate anyone.

[beelzebub]

No true Christian hates anyone, because Jesus's very message was to love thy neighbor as yourself. Anyone who hates anyone else is not carrying out the word of God (i.e., they are wrong).

They carry your flag, worship your god, and call themselves xtian.

Looks like a duck, talks like a duck & walks like a duck --- must be a duck



Ignorant words from a stupid redneck who is so insecure that he has to shield his own personal prejudice by claiming it is a religious belief. The God I worship does not hate anyone.

I appreciate your disapproval. And I thank you for separating yourself from these pseudo-xtians. I am beginning to believe that you are one of the few real xtians.

[General Septem]

I appreciate your disapproval. And I thank you for separating yourself from these pseudo-xtians. I am beginning to believe that you are one of the few real xtians.
Thank you. :D

[beelzebub]

Thank you. :D

No problem but ... one thing that I want to add is that when you say "we Christians" you are including groups that call themselves Christian. It is not really your decision as to whether they are "true Christians". If it was there would perhaps be more clarity in this world. So ... basically they are considered Christian and these group hate. I know that this is not all Christians just like terrorists do not define all Muslims.

[General Septem]

No problem but ... one thing that I want to add is that when you say "we Christians" you are including groups that call themselves Christian. It is not really your decision as to whether they are "true Christians". If it was there would perhaps be more clarity in this world. So ... basically they are considered Christian and these group hate. I know that this is not all Christians just like terrorists do not define all Muslims.

True, but Jesus did say to love thy neighbor. And your enemy. So perhaps it is not my place to say if these people are true Christians or not, but I know Jesus would not want the people He loved to hate each other.

[beelzebub]

True, but Jesus did say to love thy neighbor. And your enemy. So perhaps it is not my place to say if these people are true Christians or not, but I know Jesus would not want the people He loved to hate each other.

I totally agree with what you wrote.

[freakazoid]

You are ignorant, blind or stupid.

Christians have hated many people. There are volumes of evidence. I will give you the recent:

http://i.xanga.com/chrisgunson/phelps1.jpg

Look the rest up for yourself. I cant be bothered.
God does not "hate fags," but he does hate what that choosen life style will ultimately do to a person. The ignorant dimwit in the picture above needs to learn the difference.

Geeeeeeee, I sure hope he is not a member of Mensa! :D

PS, beelzebub, are you telling me that "gays" have never hated anyone? Something to think about, eh?

[crator]

A comical reply all followers of every religion serve each time an example of their fellow followers being assholes is unveiled is to denounce them as not "true" followers...

Ok, show me a TRUE follower. You more than likely cannot, in this entire World, show one person who is a true, to the word, follower of any religion. The reasons for this are in the main 1) religion is so contradictory you are breaking one rule where trying to abide by another, 2) human beings are unable to be "good" (WTF that is) all of the time.

Judiasm, Islam and Christianity are all violent religions. That's because humans are violent, hope you can see the link there...

There might exist a handful, but before you decry the evilness of your fellow man, of another religious persuasion (or indeed the same persuasion), take note of the log in your eye, and stop focusing on the splinter in his.

[General Septem]

A comical reply all followers of every religion serve each time an example of their fellow followers being assholes is unveiled is to denounce them as not "true" followers...

Ok, show me a TRUE follower. You more than likely cannot, in this entire World, show one person who is a true, to the word, follower of any religion. The reasons for this are in the main 1) religion is so contradictory you are breaking one rule where trying to abide by another, 2) human beings are unable to be "good" (WTF that is) all of the time.

I can't speak for other religions but Catholicism is not contradictory at all, and walking around saying "LOL GOD HATES FAGS" is 100% against Catholic teachings. Unlike other Christian denominations, Catholic has everything basically clear cut, and walking around saying "GOD HATES FAGS" is wrong. So instead of casting blame on everything else, like religion, why don't you just agree the guy's an asshole and move on?

[beelzebub]

God does not "hate fags," but he does hate what that choosen life style will ultimately do to a person.

What would that be? Do you think you know the mind of god? I am always astonished at statements like that. It's rather presumptuous for someone who believes there is a god.


The ignorant dimwit in the picture above needs to learn the difference.

The ignorant dimwit needs to worry about more important things. He could also start focusing on his own business instead of others. Gay people don’t hurt anyone just by being gay.


PS, beelzebub, are you telling me that "gays" have never hated anyone? Something to think about, eh?

That has nothing really to do with the point. If gays hate that does not make the point mote.

[General Septem]

That has nothing really to do with the point. If gays hate that does not make the point mote.
No, but it's interesting to point out that I've had gay people refuse to click on links because it had "Catholic" in the URL (in reality I was linking to a joke thread on the Catholic forums), but I've never refused to click on a link just because it said "gay" in it. I might not stay once I see what it is, but I've never refused to click on it just because of that.

[Richard Lizard]

you talk about "good" muslims and "bad "muslims". you do not see that good and bad are not gods terms but humans. peruse this http://www.prophetofdoom.net/. maybe it will give you a better understanding of muslims. I once asked a christian pastor about "good" and "bad" christians. he said there was no such thing. you were either christian or you weren't. did you even know that sunni and shiite are killing each other throughout the mideast (not just iraq) because of a disagreement over spiritual leadership. it's like catholics killing protestants because of a difference in spiritual beliefs. there is no "good" religion. if you cannot have a personal connection directly to god without the muddiness provided by some saviour, pope, prophet, avatar, some human guidance, then you are missing something.

[Seth=L]

Why serve in heaven when you can rule in hell?
Sorry, but that has to be the most careless saying ever.:rolleyes:

[theicidal maniac]

hey....muslims aren't mormons!

[thememan]

Jesus a false prophet huh. I guess thats why he loved us so much he died for us all and spent his life helping ppl. If thats your idea of a false prophet I'd like to know what you would believe to be a real prophet. You call us Narrow minded yet you refuse no matter what to believe that there's a higher power out there that created life as you know it, perhaps the Narrow minded one has been you all along. And how was he a tyrrant, seems like your talking out of your ass like you usually do, nothing new i guess. Sad thing is Jesus loves you even tho you talk shit about him, maybe the founder was an extremist (I don't mind)

Well... much of what actually happened during Jesus'(Yashua or Yahushua is more accurate) is debatable, as the Gospels were not, contrary to popular belief, written near the time of his death, nor even a generation past the time of his death. Instead, the texts were written between 50-150 or so years later, depending on the Gospel, by unknown authors.

There is also much debate on the exact nature of Yashua. It was a fairly common name back then, and some believe that the stories of Yashua were just a conglomeration of various prophets and holy figures of the time.

There is also some debate as to whether he was actually crucified or not(And if he was, he more than likely wasn't done so in the biblical fashion(Carrying the cross and such forth), as the common practice was to crucify people to an olive tree(Reusable, and didn't waste resources, far cheaper than crucifying someone to a cross).

Also, Muhammad is a Prophet, and many people follow his word. Do you consider him a false prophet? By your reasoning, he is not. So meh, just bringing up a contradiction in thought here.

[General Septem]

The Gospels weren't written until a little while after Jesus's death, but they were written based on stories dictated by the Apostles.

[Ausinus]

Then they were sorted out at the ecumenical councils.

[fcuk_usa_jew]

american and jew motherfucker 100% will go to hell u asholes the door of hell are open for u asholes if u talk about religon number 1st our religon and our holy book never teach us to be gay or lesbos or can get marry with man to man or women to women u asholes ur priest shag the kids and ur priest allows gay marrage and lesbos marrage so fuckers u only can fun in this world after this world u people will move to hell and have fun there so asholes this is the time fixed ur screwed head and learn how to respect other reglion. u people are pussy only can write on sites come face to face and talk about our reglion suckers.well anyway u people and ur priest are not going by bible ways so first correct ur self and then talk about other reglion suckerssssssssssssss:P

[Ausinus]

oh shut up

[Ausinus]

The muslims you refer to are the fundamentalists, just like there are fundamentalist christians who believe god created man in his own image.

[Seth=L]

oh shut up
That was quite possibly the best responce to that ridiculous poster. These so called christians, hypocrital punks.:mad:

[Ausinus]

i swear that guy is like on crack or something.

Ive decided im converting to a mainstream religion. But which one; Oprahism or Voodoo?:D

[Seth=L]

i swear that guy is like on crack or something.

Ive decided im converting to a mainstream religion. But which one; Oprahism or Voodoo?:D
I can always count on you to make me laugh.:D

That Jew knocker guy, he isn't stupid, he's advanced.:D

[Ausinus]

Haha.:D:D:D

[thememan]

i swear that guy is like on crack or something.

Ive decided im converting to a mainstream religion. But which one; Oprahism or Voodoo?:D


Voodoo. Legions of Zombies at your command, and as an added bonus you can work on your Jamaican accent, and have a reason to do so.

However, Oprahism does have legions of Zombies to command, you don't get to have the sweet Jamaican accent.

[beatniks-and-politics]

See, that's the problem with you Atheists. You have no problem with hating anything. We Christians don't hate anyone.

Christians dont ahte anyone? you see thats the problem with you CHRISTIANS you are hypocrites. You dont hate anyone...unless they dont follow your teachings, in which case you turn around and tear them down
for example: this whole ridiculous debate about gay marriage. If christians werent around where would the debate be? exactly there would be no need to have one.
if you choose to say atheiests hate everything/have no problem hating things, while using christians as a role model, make sure you know something about your own fucking religion.

[General Septem]

Christians dont ahte anyone? you see thats the problem with you CHRISTIANS you are hypocrites. You dont hate anyone...unless they dont follow your teachings, in which case you turn around and tear them down

Jesus said not to hate anyone, therefore if someone does hate someone else they are not a true follower of Christ. You can't fault a religion because people don't know how to follow it.

[beatniks-and-politics]

this is true, although in this case nobody should be able to call themselves christian, most of all the pope. I think that since the death of Jesus [if he ever existed] christians have become traitors to their faith. They no longer respect the readings of their god/prophets, and have become a ridiculous excuse for righteous.

[General Septem]

this is true, although in this case nobody should be able to call themselves christian, most of all the pope. I think that since the death of Jesus [if he ever existed] christians have become traitors to their faith. They no longer respect the readings of their god/prophets, and have become a ridiculous excuse for righteous.

Nobody's perfect. All I'm saying is you can't blame Christianity for it because that's not the problem. The problem is that some people are just plain assholes.

[beatniks-and-politics]

Nobody's perfect. All I'm saying is you can't blame Christianity for it because that's not the problem. The problem is that some people are just plain assholes.

I am not trying to blame christianity, only those who claim to be christian while going against every word written in the bible. I have seen alot of these "righteous" people of late spreading their 'holier than thou' bullshit and i must say i am thouroughly disgusted by what i am seeing of this religion. I realize that it isnt in the bible for them to act this way, all I am saying is, from what I have seen, Christians, being a dominant religion in North America, have become egotistical assholes.

[General Septem]

I am not trying to blame christianity, only those who claim to be christian while going against every word written in the bible. I have seen alot of these "righteous" people of late spreading their 'holier than thou' bullshit and i must say i am thouroughly disgusted by what i am seeing of this religion. I realize that it isnt in the bible for them to act this way, all I am saying is, from what I have seen, Christians, being a dominant religion in North America, have become egotistical assholes.

What, just Christians? Or do you just assume every asshole you come across is Christian?

Christians aren't assholes, people are assholes. The only reason most assholes seem to be Christian is because most people are Christian period. Some of the nicest people I know are Christian though (and those are the ones that generally turn out to be really Christian, and not just a filled in bubble in some survey by the Census Bureau). I can't say the same for atheists.

In fact, every single atheist I know is so arrogant that, even though they claim to be educated, outright refuse to capitalize the first letter of God, Christ, Jesus, Christianity, and several other words -- all proper nouns. It doesn't even matter if you feel they deserve the respect associated with capitalizing their initial letters; it's a matter of proper spelling and grammar. They're still proper nouns. They sacrifice proper English for the sake of being disrespectful, when in reality all they're really doing is making themselves look foolish. It's not any better than how first graders misspell their teacher's or classmates' names because they don't like them.

By the way, if you still think the president gives a good fuck about Christianity, you had better have some ipecac on hand, because congratulations; you have successfully drunk the Kool-Aid.

[beatniks-and-politics]

What, just Christians? Or do you just assume every asshole you come across is Christian?

Christians aren't assholes, people are assholes. The only reason most assholes seem to be Christian is because most people are Christian period. Some of the nicest people I know are Christian though (and those are the ones that generally turn out to be really Christian, and not just a filled in bubble in some survey by the Census Bureau). I can't say the same for atheists.

In fact, every single atheist I know is so arrogant that, even though they claim to be educated, outright refuse to capitalize the first letter of God, Christ, Jesus, Christianity, and several other words -- all proper nouns. It doesn't even matter if you feel they deserve the respect associated with capitalizing their initial letters; it's a matter of proper spelling and grammar. They're still proper nouns. They sacrifice proper English for the sake of being disrespectful, when in reality all they're really doing is making themselves look foolish. It's not any better than how first graders misspell their teacher's or classmates' names because they don't like them.

By the way, if you still think the president gives a good fuck about Christianity, you had better have some ipecac on hand, because congratulations; you have successfully drunk the Kool-Aid.


No I do not assume every asshole I come across is Christian and I amm apalled to have you think so.
Well I am terribly sorry i can't spell properly and that i don't bother to capitalize anything while I type, i assure you I will make a greater effort to do so. Also I am not trying to say that ALL Christians are assholes, and I realize there are people who beleive in Jesus Christ who are very good people. I am only saying the majority I have come across lately have been obnoxious. I do not know if it is the area I live in, which it very well may be, or just our society losing respect for history but this is what I have noticed.

Oh, and by the way...I am most defianatley not American, so I do not have a president, so I truely couldnt care less if he cared about religion/Christianity unless it was directly linked to a war. I do not beleive any world leaders care much about their country's designated religion. If this includes the President of the United States I am not one to judge.

[General Septem]

No I do not assume every asshole I come across is Christian and I amm apalled to have you think so.
Well I am terribly sorry i can't spell properly and that i don't bother to capitalize anything while I type, i assure you I will make a greater effort to do so. Also I am not trying to say that ALL Christians are assholes, and I realize there are people who beleive in Jesus Christ who are very good people. I am only saying the majority I have come across lately have been obnoxious. I do not know if it is the area I live in, which it very well may be, or just our society losing respect for history but this is what I have noticed.

Oh, and by the way...I am most defianatley not American, so I do not have a president, so I truely couldnt care less if he cared about religion/Christianity unless it was directly linked to a war. I do not beleive any world leaders care much about their country's designated religion. If this includes the President of the United States I am not one to judge.

Oh, you're appalled are you? I mean what I was accusing you of isn't that far from what you were already saying, by relating Christianity with assholes.

I wasn't talking to you in particular. I was talking about every single atheist I know. A great deal of them claim to be intelligent, yet they all flat-out refuse to spell God and Christianity correctly just because they wish to be disrespectful. Well that's bullshit.

The majority of Christians you've come across are assholes. Well big surprise. How about everyone I come across in this city is an asshole with a few very rare exceptions. And those rare exceptions generally turn out to be Christians. I see no logic in your drawing any connection between assholes and Christians, and if anything it's the other way around. Maybe it is just where you live.

Our president is a notorious "fundie" as some would say. I just think he's a tyrant and using Christianity as a front.

[beatniks-and-politics]

I agree that it seemed I was reffering to all Christians as assholes, but it was a mistake. Also I can see why you would think all Athiests are arrogant, because alot of them are. They refuse to let anyone interfere with their narrow-mind. I know I do this more often than not.
It must be where I live because if you are saying that most Christians you come across are kind, I am not one to doubt.
I realize it must seem quite rude to you not typing all proper nouns with capitals, but most of the time it isn't because the person is being purposefully obligerant, its because they are being lazy. As you have most probably noticed the coming of age of LOL and LMAO and single letters used for words [ie. r>are, u>you], which I think are completely unreasonable, are being considered for University thesus'. So it isnt always purposfully done when somebody does not put a capital on Christ or God, it is just laziness.

About your president...I completely agree. Although I do not live in the United States, I am a close neighbour and its desicions affect our country more than George Bush or even our prime minister let on. Our fathers and sons are being sent over seas to protect a country's govournment who has the firepower and more than enough will to protect themselves. I truthfully dont even think the threat is valid anymore, or if there ever was a fesible reason for war.

[General Septem]

I agree that it seemed I was reffering to all Christians as assholes, but it was a mistake. Also I can see why you would think all Athiests are arrogant, because alot of them are. They refuse to let anyone interfere with their narrow-mind. I know I do this more often than not.
It must be where I live because if you are saying that most Christians you come across are kind, I am not one to doubt.

I realize it must seem quite rude to you not typing all proper nouns with capitals, but most of the time it isn't because the person is being purposefully obligerant, its because they are being lazy. As you have most probably noticed the coming of age of LOL and LMAO and single letters used for words [ie. r>are, u>you], which I think are completely unreasonable, are being considered for University thesus'. So it isnt always purposfully done when somebody does not put a capital on Christ or God, it is just laziness.

True, but the ones I'm referring to are the ones that spell everything else correctly and capitalize everything that should be capitalized, and the ones that boast about their intelligence, but flat out refuse to capitalize God and Christ and whatnot, even when you point it out. I appreciate that you aren't like that.

[beatniks-and-politics]

Why thank you,
and I appreciate that you notice these flaws because I honestly don't notice when I do it. I think Atheiests should not be rude to religious people. If you don't beleive in anything,that's fine but don't try to convert others because then you are basically acting the same way you would if you did beleive in a God. [Not that I am saying all people who are religious try and convert others] I think that whatever you beleive in you shouldnt try and force it upon people around you.

[beatniks-and-politics]

True, but the ones I'm referring to are the ones that spell everything else correctly and capitalize everything that should be capitalized, and the ones that boast about their intelligence, but flat out refuse to capitalize God and Christ and whatnot, even when you point it out. I appreciate that you aren't like that.

How, exactly do you know they are just refusing to do it? Could they just be not noticing? Or have you even asked them to capitalize it.

[General Septem]

How, exactly do you know they are just refusing to do it? Could they just be not noticing? Or have you even asked them to capitalize it.

Yes, I pointed it out to the forum's resident schoolteacher (Beelzebub) and he flat out refused to be intelligent. He would rather be childishly disrespectful than merely intelligently disagreeing.

[beatniks-and-politics]

Yes, I pointed it out to the forum's resident schoolteacher (Beelzebub) and he flat out refused to be intelligent. He would rather be childishly disrespectful than merely intelligently disagreeing.

Thats just plain rude. Although it is only one of many examples, you do have some reason to be upset.

[General Septem]

Thats just plain rude. Although it is only one of many examples, you do have some reason to be upset.

I appreciate that. It's good to know not all atheists are arrogant jackasses. By the way, this is the thread I was talking about in the other thread.

[beatniks-and-politics]

I appreciate that. It's good to know not all atheists are arrogant jackasses. By the way, this is the thread I was talking about in the other thread.

well in that case I do know what you are talking about.
I dont really think it is necessary to degrade your religion..even though I do not agree with it. It's good to know I am not considered an arrogent jackass.

[theicidal maniac]

How, exactly do you know they are just refusing to do it? Could they just be not noticing? Or have you even asked them to capitalize it.

God isn't a name...neither is Christ really, but it's a title. But you don't need to capitalize god, because there have been so many gods in the history of man that capitalizing it would be like capitalizing cat or moose.

[beatniks-and-politics]

God isn't a name...neither is Christ really, but it's a title. But you don't need to capitalize god, because there have been so many gods in the history of man that capitalizing it would be like capitalizing cat or moose.

hmm thats a good point...although I think he's thinking of the Christian God so maybe if you a specify which god it is, it should be capitalized.

[ajk]

No that's not quite right, for there are millions and millions of cats and moose in the world. However, when it comes to God, there has been and always will be only one. All of these other gods that you speak of, are either plain myths, or nothing more then false gods.

[beatniks-and-politics]

No that's not quite right, for there are millions and millions of cats and moose in the world. However, when it comes to God, there has been and always will be only one. All of these other gods that you speak of, are either plain myths, or nothing more then false gods.

Well for Athiests..who don't beleive in any Gods, do you think it should be capitalized? If we do not actually beleive there is a god, should we be capitalizing it? Because I'm not sure if that makes sense.

[Ausinus]

No that's not quite right, for there are millions and millions of cats and moose in the world. However, when it comes to God, there has been and always will be only one. All of these other gods that you speak of, are either plain myths, or nothing more then false gods.

What makes you so sure your religion is the right one? It most certainly isnt the oldest.

[General Septem]

God isn't a name...neither is Christ really, but it's a title. But you don't need to capitalize god, because there have been so many gods in the history of man that capitalizing it would be like capitalizing cat or moose.

God, when referring to the monotheistic god of Christianity, is a proper noun. If you look it up in any dictionary it will tell you the same thing. When using the word to refer to a god, such as the Greek god Zeus, it is just a noun. It's one of those words that would have two dictionary entries. This applies whether or not you believe God is the true god.

And yes, Christ is a title, and as such should be capitalized. Catholicism is a proper noun and should also be capitalized.

[beatniks-and-politics]

God, when referring to the monotheistic god of Christianity, is a proper noun. If you look it up in any dictionary it will tell you the same thing. When using the word to refer to a god, such as the Greek god Zeus, it is just a noun. It's one of those words that would have two dictionary entries. This applies whether or not you believe God is the true god.

And yes, Christ is a title, and as such should be capitalized. Catholicism is a proper noun and should also be capitalized.

but for Athiests should we really be capitalizing God if we do not beleive in it...? I know it may seem disrespectful to those that do but should it change depending on your faith?

[theicidal maniac]

hmm thats a good point...although I think he's thinking of the Christian God so maybe if you a specify which god it is, it should be capitalized.

Again the christians base their god on the old testament, but there are four different authors of the Tanakh (first 5 books) alone, and they each held different beliefs of what god was, in fact they are identified as authors BY their beliefs. The author "J" was the Yahweh believer (j for jahvist(yahwehist)) the author "E" is the Elohist author who believed in Elohim, "P" was the priestly author whose beliefs are closer to those of the orthodoxy, and there was also and the "D" author...the Deuteronomist, whose god was abhorrently violent and jealous, even more so than Elohim. Yahweh was a human-like diety who walked and talked with Adam and Eve (cut out of the Christian version). The works of these authors was compiled, EDITED, and codified between 800 - 600 BCE by "R", the Redactor.

[General Septem]

but for Athiests should we really be capitalizing God if we do not beleive in it...? I know it may seem disrespectful to those that do but should it change depending on your faith?

Well Judaism and Christianity, which both believe in the same God, are the only two faiths that refer to their deity as God. Other gods of other faiths have other names. This is why I said it does not matter which god you believe in, if any, because the Christian god is also called God. So basically, it's like saying, God is the name of our god.

[who897]

Doesn't the devil (in your religion) have a name? Which leads me to think that your "god" would have a name then.

Humans who are supposedly created in the image of your "god" give names to "EVERYTHING". The word "god" refers, at least to me when I use it, as someones omnipotent being who sits in the sky farting lightening bolts and what not.

Just curious what does the capitalization of a word have to do with the price of beans when this is a thread about religion and not english grammar?

[theicidal maniac]

God, when referring to the monotheistic god of Christianity, is a proper noun. If you look it up in any dictionary it will tell you the same thing. When using the word to refer to a god, such as the Greek god Zeus, it is just a noun. It's one of those words that would have two dictionary entries. This applies whether or not you believe God is the true god.

And yes, Christ is a title, and as such should be capitalized. Catholicism is a proper noun and should also be capitalized.

But I'm not Christian, I don't recognize any gods, so there is no proper noun in that aspect. Elohim, Zuess, Apollo, Yahweh, Flying Spaghetti Monster....those are proper nouns because they are names. And I agree, christ is a title, like president, not worthy of a capitalization unless you are using it as a name in an obvious reference to Jesus, but I don't refer to Jesus as "Christ" unless I am swearing (i.e. Jesus titty-fucking Christ)

[MrJim]

Doesn't the devil (in your religion) have a name? Which leads me to think that your "god" would have a name then.


Lucifer is the proper name of "the devil" The "devil" in itself doesn't need to be capitalized.

I'm split on the "God" or "god" argument. It seems to me like "God" would be correct if referring to who believers in God call their god. Likeways, "gods" and "devils" stay uncapitalized because they are referring to nameless gods and devils.

As for saying God is a "title" and shouldn't be capitalized, aren't all titles of books and films capitalized too?

Just a thought or three.

[beatniks-and-politics]

Lucifer is the proper name of "the devil" The "devil" in itself doesn't need to be capitalized

Actually doesn't the devil go by seven different names?

[something]

Actually doesn't the devil go by seven different names?

For sure, but i don't know em:D

[hitekredneck]

For sure, but i don't know em:D

lessee...here's a few...satan, shaitan, beelzebeb, lucifer, ba'al, ba'almazon...:cool:

[theicidal maniac]

try thousands of names....but there are also different concepts of what the devil is in each name. Beelzebub is the lord of the flies. Ba'al was a god. Lucifer is a fallen angel. Shaitan is not the same devil christians call satan. The devil of the jews is a symbolic figure only....

[theicidal maniac]

Lucifer is the proper name of "the devil" The "devil" in itself doesn't need to be capitalized.

I'm split on the "God" or "god" argument. It seems to me like "God" would be correct if referring to who believers in God call their god. Likeways, "gods" and "devils" stay uncapitalized because they are referring to nameless gods and devils.

As for saying God is a "title" and shouldn't be capitalized, aren't all titles of books and films capitalized too?

Just a thought or three.

Are you seriously suggesting that a book title and a title of a person are the same? It's a homonym, not a synonym. A bill on capitol hill and your friend Bill are called by words that sound the same, but the ideas behind the spoken words are completely different.

[yea_thats_right1]

get 'em theicidal!!!

[General Septem]

Are you seriously suggesting that a book title and a title of a person are the same? It's a homonym, not a synonym. A bill on capitol hill and your friend Bill are called by words that sound the same, but the ideas behind the spoken words are completely different.

And the same applies to God and god. God is a god, but he is also God. A god the Greeks worship and our god God are called by words that sound the same, but the ideas behind the spoken words are completely different.

[theicidal maniac]

And the same applies to God and god. God is a god, but he is also God. A god the Greeks worship and our god God are called by words that sound the same, but the ideas behind the spoken words are completely different.

Only if you belong to a religion that calls a god God and recognizes God as a personality. I don't, so I talk about gods the way i talk about unicorns, also not capitalized.

[MrJim]

Only if you belong to a religion that calls a god God and recognizes God as a personality. I don't, so I talk about gods the way i talk about unicorns, also not capitalized.

So if a fictional unicorn were named "Bob", you'd call him bob?

[theicidal maniac]

So if a fictional unicorn were named "Bob", you'd call him bob?

Nah, cause Bob is his name. But unicorn would not be Unicorn, see? I don't know o any rival factions who worship Bob, the unicorn.

[something]

Nah, cause Bob is his name. But unicorn would not be Unicorn, see? I don't know o any rival factions who worship Bob, the unicorn.

Isn't it better to say "a" god and "the" god?

[MrJim]

Nah, cause Bob is his name. But unicorn would not be Unicorn, see? I don't know o any rival factions who worship Bob, the unicorn.

I think I finally get what you're meaning now about the titles. I can't think of any titles other than "God" and "god" that are discretionary like that though. Can you? How about "Earth" and "the earth"? Maybe?

[theicidal maniac]

I think I finally get what you're meaning now about the titles. I can't think of any titles other than "God" and "god" that are discretionary like that though. Can you? How about "Earth" and "the earth"? Maybe?

No, Earth is a name. Any other use of the word "earth" is typically a reference to a different idea, like "dirt." "He was pushed to the ground, and could taste earth in his mouth," that sort of thing. What I meant is more like mayor. "Last week Mayor Jim said that he would be the best mayor money can buy."

President, cheif, professor, officer, father(religiously), uncle (My Uncle Bill was a great uncle)....the list can go on and on and on and on.....

Sorry, I know this is terribly geeky and dull, but, I'm an aspiring linguist. And a cunning one at that.

[General Septem]

Nah, cause Bob is his name. But unicorn would not be Unicorn, see? I don't know o any rival factions who worship Bob, the unicorn.

But if the unicorn's name were Unicorn, it would be capitalized as a name. Kind of like naming your dog "Dog".

[MrJim]

But if the unicorn's name were Unicorn, it would be capitalized as a name. Kind of like naming your dog "Dog".

That's what I thought before... I'm getting such a headache now.

[theicidal maniac]

Right but who is Genital Slurpem even using the name God for? He can't tell you which of the Old Testament's gods he believes in?

See if I tell Genny that "God" has purple wings or an elephant's head, he will tell me I am wrong. Although there are belief systems out there who are quite convinced that purple wings or an elephant's head ARE traits of God. My point; everyone chooses what they will believe about god and what they will not believe. Why does Genny say that he does not believe those things? It's a choice. He chooses not to incorporate the head of an elephant into his idea of god, ut he does incorporate male gender (which is completely rediculous, since gender has meaning only in the context of SEX, yet he chooses not to believe that god has sex or that HE has an equal female partner) We all choose what we believe about gods, and because of that we vicariously choose what we believe about the nature of right and wrong, which effects how we mentally reward or punish ourselves when we do what we believe is right or wrong. It's all about choices.

What Genny believes about God comes from the Bible, but the Bible is a cluster fuck of different theories and ideas about "God," many many authors and editors contributed to the writings therein, and because each of them was a different PERSON, they all chose to believe DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT "GOD." Hence, the Bible is about many, many different god traits all rolled into one god thing, so it's really not fair to give a conglomerate of traits a proper name, now is it? If I am referring to Elohim, Jehovah, Zues, or Thor, I will capitalize. If I am referring to a general concept, I will not.

Genny has me blocked, but you may quote this passage and he can see it, although he won't bother to refute it with anything stronger than "NUH-UH!"

[General Septem]

Actually God does not have purple wings or an elephant's head, because these are physical traits. Furthermore, God is a complete man. He created Adam in His image and likeness, but that was before He took a rib out of him. That rib is symbolic of a lot of things, but basically the perfect man was created, and split in two. That's not to say God is without gender, but that God is more of a man than any of us are. That's one of the things about marriage, when a man and a woman join together and become one flesh, they become the image and likeness of God again.

I fail to see what this has to do with the grammatical rule of capitalizing all proper nouns.

[beatniks-and-politics]

Actually God does not have purple wings or an elephant's head, because these are physical traits. Furthermore, God is a complete man. He created Adam in His image and likeness, but that was before He took a rib out of him. That rib is symbolic of a lot of things, but basically the perfect man was created, and split in two. That's not to say God is without gender, but that God is more of a man than any of us are. That's one of the things about marriage, when a man and a woman join together and become one flesh, they become the image and likeness of God again.

I fail to see what this has to do with the grammatical rule of capitalizing all proper nouns.

Well if god made the perfect man, made in his likeness, why does it say Jesus is his only son? Or was Adam not his son? Was he only a creation...or maybe a clone? I fail to see why most Cchristians are so against cloning if Adam was but a clone of God.

[General Septem]

Well if god made the perfect man, made in his likeness, why does it say Jesus is his only son? Or was Adam not his son? Was he only a creation...or maybe a clone? I fail to see why most Cchristians are so against cloning if Adam was but a clone of God.

Jesus was God's only begotten (as opposed to created) son.

[theicidal maniac]

Actually God does not have purple wings or an elephant's head, because these are physical traits. Furthermore, God is a complete man. He created Adam in His image and likeness, but that was before He took a rib out of him. That rib is symbolic of a lot of things, but basically the perfect man was created, and split in two. That's not to say God is without gender, but that God is more of a man than any of us are. That's one of the things about marriage, when a man and a woman join together and become one flesh, they become the image and likeness of God again.

I fail to see what this has to do with the grammatical rule of capitalizing all proper nouns.

BEING MALE IS A PHYSICAL TRAIT. "male" doesn't MEAN anything without female. There is no meaning to being male without female. When a creature can reproduce asexually, then there is no male or female of the species. Sex is a physical act because it's primary biological purpose is to pass on dna, the DIRECTIONS FOR BUILDING A PHYSICAL BODY. If sex is physical, then "male" and "female" are physical traits.

And If a man and a woman REALLY became "one flesh" then they would share DNA, there would be no genetic variation, and either everyone would look exactly the same or they'd all be more inbred than the British Royals. God that whole transformation thing with the Catholics is just rediculous...lemme ask you something Genny, do YOU actually believe that the eucharist ACTUALLY becomes Christ's flesh? Ya know...we could do a DNA test on the Eucharist if you'd like.

Again, you proved my point...you choose not to believe that god has wings or an elephants head (physical traits) but you do choose to believe that god is a male (physical trait).

What that has to do with capitalization is mentioned in the last part of my last post on this page, but you probably just read the colorful parts, huh? It says: Hence, the Bible is about many, many different god traits all rolled into one god thing, so it's really not fair to give a conglomerate of traits a proper name, now is it? If I am referring to Elohim, Jehovah, Zues, or Thor, I will capitalize. If I am referring to a general concept, I will not.

[MrJim]

BEING MALE IS A PHYSICAL TRAIT. "male" doesn't MEAN anything without female. There is no meaning to being male without female. When a creature can reproduce asexually, then there is no male or female of the species. Sex is a physical act because it's primary biological purpose is to pass on dna, the DIRECTIONS FOR BUILDING A PHYSICAL BODY. If sex is physical, then "male" and "female" are physical traits.

And If a man and a woman REALLY became "one flesh" then they would share DNA, there would be no genetic variation, and either everyone would look exactly the same or they'd all be more inbred than the British Royals. God that whole transformation thing with the Catholics is just rediculous...lemme ask you something Genny, do YOU actually believe that the eucharist ACTUALLY becomes Christ's flesh? Ya know...we could do a DNA test on the Eucharist if you'd like.

Again, you proved my point...you choose not to believe that god has wings or an elephants head (physical traits) but you do choose to believe that god is a male (physical trait).

What that has to do with capitalization is mentioned in the last part of my last post on this page, but you probably just read the colorful parts, huh? It says: Hence, the Bible is about many, many different god traits all rolled into one god thing, so it's really not fair to give a conglomerate of traits a proper name, now is it? If I am referring to Elohim, Jehovah, Zues, or Thor, I will capitalize. If I am referring to a general concept, I will not.

or maybe it's better to just not capitalize anything, since using the shift key causes carpel tunnel. :D

[beatniks-and-politics]

or maybe it's better to just not capitalize anything, since using the shift key causes carpel tunnel. :D

i agree. from now on, i think everyone on this forum should not capitalize anything as to not cause these ridiculous arguements anymore :)

[who897]

Look at this, they are looking out for your welfare. Isn't that sweet :D