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BogusPublisher
09-02-2006, 06:52 PM
Damn! It just fries me sometimes when I see all these so called agents and managers on the internet with no licensing. Do they realize that, in most states, they can do jail time for this? In California , talent/model agents MUST be licensed. Licensing requires a $10,000 cash bond deposited with the CA Department of Labor Standards Enforcement (DLSE), a license (about $345), permits (about $30 per location); and references that will be rigorously checked including professional, personal and banking references.

If you are modeling, have thought about modeling, or are a pretty woman who has been in a public place at some time during your ages of 15 to 30, its likely you have been approached by one of these people. Once again I mention this licensing is NOT required in all states, but as far as I have been able to check, it is a requirement in 43 of the 50 states. So what is it that draws these people into thinking they can act as an agent? Most are men, and they do not think they can be an agent; they think it will get them into a young womans pants. Picture the scene - a young woman is sitting in the food court of the mall. She is pretty. Maybe not model material, but cute. She is about 5 foot 3, got a little junk in the trunk and is alone. After he introduces himself and gets her name, he tells her he is an agent. He tells her how good looking she is, and that she has got what it will take to be a model. He is going to make her into a model. Now with so much going on online, he doesn't even have to go to the mall. He can just contact her through MySpace or a bunch of the online modeling sites. He gets her to meet with him, maybe over dinner. She will just need some pictures (which all of a sudden he is also a photographer); she will need some comp cards (now he is a print buyer or he prints them himself); she needs help with a calendar or direction in her career (now he is also a manager); and finally, she will need some promotion (ah, back to being an agent).

I mentioned above that its a crime in California (and most other states) to work as an agent without a license. What does the California law state?

Section 23.1 of the DLSE manual states, There are a number of statutes in the Labor Code which specifically prohibit contracts between employers and employees on certain subjects. Examples of actions which have been declared to be against public policy are:

Subsection 5, Waiver of Talent Agency Act provisions (Labor Code § 1701.19) This means that an artist/model cannot waive their rights under the law and as such, a signature on a contract or ANY agreement, written, verbal or otherwise, with an unlicensed agent is null and void.

Section 27.4 states, Talent Agents. This licensed occupation is regulated by the Labor Commissioner pursuant to the provisions of Labor C ode § 1700, et seq.

Section 27.4.1 states, Talent Agency means a person or corporation who engages in the occupation of procuring, offering, promising, or attempting to procure employment or engagements for an artist or artists, .(Labor Code § 1700 .4(a))

Section 27.4.2 states, Artists means actors and actresses rendering services on the legitimate stage and in the production of motion pictures, radio artists, musical artists, musical organizations, directors of legitimate stage, motion picture and radio productions, musical directors, writers, cinematographers, composers, lyricists, arrangers, models, and other artists and persons rendering professional services in motion picture, theatrical, radio, television and other entertainment enterprises. (Labor Code § 1700.4(b))

Yeah, sure, an agent. These agents are here to take something from you. Money, dignity, or something more. Either way, if they are not licensed, they are not legit. Would you save your money in a bank that was not federally insured? Would you use a lawyer that was not licensed to practice? It is the same thing.

This industry draws a lot of scammers, because a lot of this industry is based on peoples hopes and dreams. Parents bring their kids in for screen tests that are not tests but cost hundreds of dollars. As soon as the money is out, so is the kid. One of these known scams is Screen Test USA and they were busted by the Federal Trade Commission (http://www.easybackgroundcheck.com/legalhistory.html#endnote8). The FTC noted them to be bogus talent scouts selling screen tests.

Another big scam is modeling conventions. Models pay big money to be seen by agents at these events, and all the conventions are is a way for the promoter to remove money from the models (or their parents) wallets. One of the biggest of these known scams is International Modeling and Talent Association (IMTA) Convention (IMTA Convention). Another is ModelSearchAmerica (MSA). IMTA is the most expensive modeling convention in America. It costs $5,000 - and that's just to get in the door - it does not include all the travel expenses. So you get in the door. Along with EVERYONE else who could afford to pay. It does not matter what you look like. You and hundreds, if not thousands, of other hopeful models are walked past a couple of agents who have been paid to be there. If someone paid for your travel, hotel, meals and maybe a few other items, would not you go if you were an agent? Its called free vacation.

In an attempt to get around the laws, a bunch of new names have been seen. One of these is groups or hangouts. These are not Yahoo groups. And they are not just a place to hangout. Often the group owner is another wanna-be agent. They think they can find you work; they want to provide you with pictures. And then they tell you that they will screen some jobs for you or they will come with you to photo shoots. Check with the big league agents. They do not chaperone their models to shoots. If you are shooting with just you and the photographer, sure, you might want to bring a chaperone usually a driver. If its a commercial shoot, its likely that you will have the photographer, a makeup artist, lighting person, creative director, set director, and possibly even the client all there. There would be no need for a chaperone unless you are a minor (parent or legal guardian required at ALL shoots).

Have you ever dealt with one of these bogus agents? They are likely hurting your career. Most legitimate agencies, companies and other entities will not hire or work with illicit agents. Most will turn them into the state, and, for those of you in California or your agent was in California, if one took ANY money from you or from your work (a percentage, or their cut), you should file a complaint. You can find information at the DLSE homepage: http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/dlse.html

If you want to be seen as professional, you need to work with professionals. Our industry is plagued by frauds who want to steal your dreams, money, or both. Do not fall for them. How can you avoid the scams, scammers and pitfalls?

Check the next post - this one was too long.... so...

BogusPublisher
09-02-2006, 06:58 PM
Ask a LOT of questions:

Agencies in most states must be licensed (this is not true everywhere - check your applicable state laws, but CALIFORNIA REQUIRES A LICENSE ). Find out if they are licensed, and what their certificate or license number is. This can then be checked with the state they are registered in (in California it is the Department of Labor Standards Enforcement).

Check the Yellow Pages (Use the yellow pages online, if they are listed, that is one less question on your list).

Make sure they supply you with FULL contact information. Phone Numbers, Physical Address, email, web site. Not all agencies will have a website, but most will at least have an email address.

How long have they been in business? Ask about their history.

Ask them to send you their printed collateral. Legit agencies will likely have advertising, informational and marketing collateral, usually well-designed, and probably printed on glossy stock.

Check out their web site. (Not all agencies have them... but most do) Does it look well-designed, and organized? Frequently updated? Or does it look cheesy and cheap... is it hosted on a free service like Yahoo, AOL or Geocities? This can be very telling. You can also check out that website at http://www.dslreports.com/whois -- just because it says XYZModels.com doesn't mean it wasn't put up by John "wants to get into your pants" Doe.

Who are their clients? Especially CURRENT clients. Get contact names and numbers for references - and follow up on them. If they just give you the names of the clients, but tell you they can't give you the contact info (for business reasons), ask them what department they do work for in that company, then find the phone numbers yourself and make a courteous, professional call to the company, asking about their relationship to the agency in question.

Who are the models they are currently working with? If they claim to represent someone famous, it is easily verified (on the net or by a few phone calls) if they actually represent that personality. Ask them to have a couple of their current models to contact you. Then discuss with these models the type and frequency of work the agency has gotten for them... keep in mind that they will probably send you models that are at the top of their list, or in the case of scams, shills from within the company. This isn't a very reliable method by itself, but added to your other research can give you a better feel about the company in question.

This list can go on and on, but the bottom line is that if you ask a lot of smart questions, you are much less likely to get burned. Also: Do your own independent research!

Ask people in the industry if they have ever heard of them. Check with photographers in the area of the agency or others that you might know and ask about their reputation.

If it was a talent scout who says they represented a reputable agency (like Ford, Elite, etc.), make your next phone call to that office, and check to see if they actually work there. Anyone can have a business card printed.

Ask other agencies about them. Perhaps you are too short or feel you are too inexperienced to work for Elite or a major agency, Don't be afraid to call a major agency near the one in question, and tell them I would love to interview with you, but I am just getting started in the business, and have been approached by XYZ agency... can you tell me anything about them? Do they have a decent reputation / are they a dangerous scam? Usually the agency will be helpful. And you never know, they may actually ask you to come in and interview with them!!

Check their Better Business Bureau File : Go to http:www.bbb.org and look them up... it's very easy and FREE . Not all agencies will have a file. And this is not a definitive tool in finding out about a particularly agency. Do not assume anything is wrong if they do not have a file, or if they have one or two complaints... However, it can be very telling if you find out that they have a LOT of complaints against them.

Look them up on the search engines: See if people have publicly posted complaints or warnings about them... just because they haven't, doesn't mean they are any more legit, however, if you find a lot of complaints, well... time for more investigation. Suggested Search engines: http://www.google.com, http://www.hotbot.com (hotbot allows you to search using most of the major search engine technologies that the other search sites use (Fast, Google, Inktomi and Teoma). There is also a good source for using a good number of meta search engines at http://www.dogpile.com.

No single question here can answer the question: is this agency/scout legit but by doing your research, you can develop a profile on a company that should give you your answer. And always trust your instincts... If it feels wrong, well... there may be something to it.

The Bottom line: Do your research. Ask many questions. Then ask some more. If a company is legit, they will understand your caution and professionalism.

General Septem
09-03-2006, 11:46 AM
Why should an agent have to be licenced? All agents do is take care of their models' education, makeup and whatnot, and sign them up for photoshoots and whatnot. It pisses me off that every little thing has to be so carefully regulated.