View Full Version : If the United States would have stayed out of World War One?
Montanarchist
03-07-2009, 02:40 PM
Say that a president prefering the old Thomas Jefferson's school of thought when it comes to foreign policy (Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none ) woud have been elected in 1912 and the US would never have got themselves involved in world war one.
Could Germany have had a greater chance of defeating France and Russia?
Would the Treaty of Versailles not have pissed Hitler off at the same time as the russians would experience the positive effects of Germany's organized and minimal poitics, it's powerfull industries and growing economy?
In other words, could we have been without both Nazism and Communism if it wasn't for Woodrow Wilson?
Rise Up
03-07-2009, 04:54 PM
Woodrow Wilson fought against involvement in WW1. He did have faults though. Mainly supporting the British and neglecting the Germans. The British threatened so called 'freedom of the seas' with their blockade but nothing was done. By the war's end 750,000 Germans had STARVED to death.
The Germans launched a counter bloackade with U Boats and were told that continued use would spell US involvement.
I think that if the Democrats had not nominated Wilson in 1916 things would have been much better. Wilson had political victories like the Child Labor Act that I doubt another president in that time would have tried to support. And plus who knows what might have happened. Hitler might've been killed and the Russians might have never gone Communist. But that's just a what if scenario.
What if America hadn't sold arms to warring countries? What if Britain had been told to end their blockade? What if Germany hadn't lost the Red Baron?
What if Rasputin had never met the csarina? WHAT IF?
Montanarchist
03-07-2009, 05:29 PM
Woodrow Wilson fought against involvement in WW1.
To start with, but in 1917 he was pushing congress to declare war.
He did have faults though.
Yeah, no fucking shit dude.
He was a horrible president. He enforced antitrust acts, reinstated income tax and his most notable action (and the very most dispicable); creating a central banking system, ie. enforcing inflation.
But the main issue here is whether or not the world would have been better off with Germany winning the war.
Do you think so?
Rise Up
03-07-2009, 06:14 PM
I don't think anything would've been any different. History cannot be changed no matter how much we wish it could. Why look back and wonder, what if? When we are going through much worse right now.
Carrot
03-07-2009, 06:17 PM
What if americans weren't traitors? ;)
Rise Up
03-07-2009, 06:20 PM
What if americans weren't traitors? ;)
Then we would all be citizens of the British Empire. Unless if World War 1 broke out and Germany took the American colonies from Britain. WHAT IF. It's pointless to ask such questions.
Montanarchist
03-07-2009, 07:14 PM
Why is it so pointless? I you want to understand history you can't just memorize dates and names, you have to understand the chain of events.
Speculating in "what if" scenarios is very interesting.
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