Grr, those anti-gun bigots

[General Septem]

So you all know of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, right? I was reading about it, and the things they ban a weapon for are ridiculous. I mean, it's just a few steps away from having no guns at all. I was relieved to find that the ban expired.

Well then I found out that New York initiated an exact mirror of the ban, and there's no sunset clause (which means it will never expire).

This is Hillary's state mind you.

If that bitch is elected, she's liable to ban guns altogether.

I wonder if it would be possible to blow up Capital Hall by driving a remote controlled vehicle through the front wall and detonating massive explosives. XD

[beelzebub]

So you all know of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, right? I was reading about it, and the things they ban a weapon for are ridiculous. I mean, it's just a few steps away from having no guns at all BLA BLA BLA

BA DA DADADA,...BA DA DADADA,...BA DA DADADA DA

Start spreading the news, Im leaving today

I want to be a part of it - new york, new york

HELL YEAH! I hope GUNS ARE ALL BANNED!

[General Septem]

Good. You liberals can come to New York, and the rest of the world will be nice and secluded for the rest of us. :D

[who897]

I don't think blowing shit up would be very constructive. Call me crazy. We could do a campain that says gun laws create impotence in men. I'm sure viagra, levitra, etc etc, would throw some funds that way. Of course Hilary would love that cuz I don't think she likes having her man "up" if you know what I mean. Plus, guns are a great way to thin the herd. Crazy.

[Ape-Shit]

Banning weapons (guns) only gives the bad dudes the upper hand.

Guns don't kill people,
People kill people.

Although, it is True. If you have a weapon in your home for self-protection and you don't know how to use it or you are afraid to use it in a situation, then you may be killed by it.

Besides, General would go completely nuts if he didn't have a gun to shoot some poor little defenseless animal.

[freakazoid]

Banning weapons (guns) only gives the bad dudes the upper hand.

Guns don't kill people,
People kill people.

Although, it is True. If you have a weapon in your home for self-protection and you don't know how to use it or you are afraid to use it in a situation, then you may be killed by it.

Besides, General would go completely nuts if he didn't have a gun to shoot some poor little defenseless animal.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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[freakazoid]

BA DA DADADA,...BA DA DADADA,...BA DA DADADA DA

Start spreading the news, Im leaving today

I want to be a part of it - new york, new york

HELL YEAH! I hope GUNS ARE ALL BANNED!

beelzebub...you can really be stupid sometimes.

[General Septem]

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I've gotta get me a t-shirt that says that. :D

[freakazoid]

I've gotta get me a t-shirt that says that. :D

Hell yeah!! Would make a great shirt! :D

[General Septem]

Hell yeah!! Would make a great shirt! :D
We're not the only ones who think so:

http://www.thoseshirts.com/atf.html

:D

[freakazoid]

We're not the only ones who think so:

http://www.thoseshirts.com/atf.html

:D

Right on!!! I'm getting one!! Cool! Good job finding it, General! :D

[Nobody]

BA DA DADADA,...BA DA DADADA,...BA DA DADADA DA

Start spreading the news, Im leaving today

I want to be a part of it - new york, new york

HELL YEAH! I hope GUNS ARE ALL BANNED! I'd be willing to bet,the criminal element is hoping for that ban as well. Where would the doctor from Flint Michigan be if he had'nt shot the intruder, in his bed room, at 1.30 in the morning? The mind frame of the criminal today seems to be "eleminate all possible witnesses". How about the home invasion of the family from Indianapolis this past summer. All killed. The bottom line in my opinion. "MORE GUNS, LESS CRIME".

[freakazoid]

I'd be willing to bet,the criminal element is hoping for that ban as well. Where would the doctor from Flint Michigan be if he had'nt shot the intruder, in his bed room, at 1.30 in the morning? The mind frame of the criminal today seems to be "eleminate all possible witnesses". How about the home invasion of the family from Indianapolis this past summer. All killed. The bottom line in my opinion. "MORE GUNS, LESS CRIME".

RE: "MORE GUNS, LESS CRIME".

RIGHT ON!!!

[rawsugar]

Guns are banned in the UK. We do ok.

[freakazoid]

Guns are banned in the UK. We do ok.

Cool, but they are'nt here and we like it that way. :)

And, guns being banned in your country has not given you a lower crime rate than the U.S.

[freakazoid]

So you all know of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, right? I was reading about it, and the things they ban a weapon for are ridiculous. I mean, it's just a few steps away from having no guns at all. I was relieved to find that the ban expired.

Well then I found out that New York initiated an exact mirror of the ban, and there's no sunset clause (which means it will never expire).

This is Hillary's state mind you.

If that bitch is elected, she's liable to ban guns altogether.

I wonder if it would be possible to blow up Capital Hall by driving a remote controlled vehicle through the front wall and detonating massive explosives. XD
RE: " If that bitch is elected, she's liable to ban guns altogether."

Over my dead body holding my beloved M1 Carbine in one hand and my AR15 in the other! http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon4.gif Excuse my French...but FUCK that commie bitch!!!...

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed...

shall not be infringed!

[General Septem]

RE: " If that bitch is elected, she's liable to ban guns altogether."

Over my dead body holding my beloved M1 Carbine in one hand and my AR15 in the other! http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon4.gif Excuse my French...but FUCK that commie bitch!!!...

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed...

shall not be infringed!

And I'll be right beside you with whatever I can get my hands on. :D

[General Septem]

Guns are banned in the UK. We do ok.

I wish we didn't need guns, but as long as we're all human I don't see any way around them. :/

[freakazoid]

And I'll be right beside you with whatever I can get my hands on.

Right on, General! http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon4.gifhttp://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon4.gifhttp://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Ape-Shit]

speaking of guns, I did a shot group of 3 rounds at 25 yards all within the diameter of a nickel with my 30/30 just this past weekend. I even suprised myself.

If all house holds were required to have a weapon, just think about the reduction in crime?

[General Septem]

speaking of guns, I did a shot group of 3 rounds at 25 yards all within the diameter of a nickel with my 30/30 just this past weekend. I even suprised myself.

If all house holds were required to have a weapon, just think about the reduction in crime?

That's exactly right, and if they taught people how to use guns in school there wouldn't be as many accidents either. Although doctors are statistically more dangerous than guns from what I hear. :D

[freakazoid]

That's exactly right, and if they taught people how to use guns in school there wouldn't be as many accidents either. Although doctors are statistically more dangerous than guns from what I hear. :D
http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif They used to teach good marksmenship to Boy Scouts. That was back when people were not listening to the idiotic bullshit from gun grabing fascists. Some Scout clubs still do teach marksmenship...

See - http://www.sfbac.org/camping/c_bs_shootingsportscamp.cfm

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[General Septem]

http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif They used to teach good marksmenship to Boy Scouts. That was back when people were not listening to the idiotic bullshit from gun grabing fascists. Some Scout clubs still do teach marksmenship...

See - http://www.sfbac.org/camping/c_bs_shootingsportscamp.cfm

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Now that you mention it, they did teach me archery when I went to Boy Scout camp and I also used a pellet gun once too, but they never really went into great detail.

[freakazoid]

Now that you mention it, they did teach me archery when I went to Boy Scout camp and I also used a pellet gun once too, but they never really went into great detail.

http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif Cool, at least they did that and didn't spend their time keeping you in "Human sensitivity and alternative life style classes." :eek:

[General Septem]

http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif Cool, at least they did that and didn't spend their time keeping you in "Human sensitivity and alternative life style classes." :eek:
Haha yeah, none of that bullshit when I was in it :D

[freakazoid]

Haha yeah, none of that bullshit when I was in it :D

Same here. :D

[MrBirdy]

Its an ammendment i desserve a gun!!
we all know that robbers and stuff like that buy theirs illegal so give me a weapon legit!!

[freakazoid]

Its an ammendment i desserve a gun!!
we all know that robbers and stuff like that buy theirs illegal so give me a weapon legit!!

Visit your local gun store and become an Armed Citizen. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif



- A man without a gun is a subject, A man with a gun is a citizen.

[Nobody]

Visit your local gun store and become an Armed Citizen. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif



- A man without a gun is a subject, A man with a gun is a citizen.
Man, I was just over on another post, and the bastards kicked me off again. I was out looking for those government goats (deer), today, and popped one. Used a marlin guide gun in a 45-70 caliber. 200 yards, with open sights. He hit the ground hard. Jerky by Tuesday.

[youngmarine]

The 2nd Amendment is there for a reason!

If the people of a country have no way to protect themselves--then they are at the mercy of the government. If the anti-gun people succeed with their mission of taking away guns (even if some of them have sincere motives) then who has the power??? this would leave only the Government (Military) and the criminals (who don't obey laws in the first place) with guns. If this were to happen who would stop the government if it were to change for the worse?? Without the worry of an armed citizen uprising a big enough group of politicians could do whatever they wanted, especially if they managed to maintain control of the military. Constitutions and amendments are not going to physically stop some dictator or political coup from completely changing the Government through force--an armed citizenry is the best deterrent for this scenario.

[General Septem]

The 2nd Amendment is there for a reason!

If the people of a country have no way to protect themselves--then they are at the mercy of the government. If the anti-gun people succeed with their mission of taking away guns (even if some of them have sincere motives) then who has the power??? this would leave only the Government (Military) and the criminals (who don't obey laws in the first place) with guns. If this were to happen who would stop the government if it were to change for the worse?? Without the worry of an armed citizen uprising a big enough group of politicians could do whatever they wanted, especially if they managed to maintain control of the military. Constitutions and amendments are not going to physically stop some dictator or political coup from completely changing the Government through force--an armed citizenry is the best deterrent for this scenario.

Not to mention that the less we can protect ourselves, the more dependent we become on the government.

[freakazoid]

BA DA DADADA,...BA DA DADADA,...BA DA DADADA DA

Start spreading the news, Im leaving today

I want to be a part of it - new york, new york

HELL YEAH! I hope GUNS ARE ALL BANNED!

RE: " HELL YEAH! I hope GUNS ARE ALL BANNED!"


An unarmed man is a subject, an armed man is a citizen.
An unarmed man is ruled, an armed man rules.

[assholius]

"When guns are outlawed,
only outlaws will have guns"

I know that's trite and all,but it's still true.

[LordRuin]

30,136 people were killed by firearms in the US in 2003; 730 of these were accidental

For comparison, UK deaths by guns is less than 200 per year

US - Guns, UK - No guns, hmmmm how does this work?:D

[LordRuin]

An unarmed man is a subject, an armed man is a citizen.
An unarmed man is ruled, an armed man rules.


Id rather be an unarmed man, than a citizen of your fucked up nation, the World Fucking Police, who the hell gave you the right to police the globe anyway? I certainly did not! Was there a vote? no?

An armed man rules by terror and is ruled by terror!

Oh hell, go arm yourself to the teeth, barricade yourself in your home, and shoot everyone who looks at you wrong, let fear rule your mind!

[freakazoid]

30,136 people were killed by firearms in the US in 2003; 730 of these were accidental

For comparison, UK deaths by guns is less than 200 per year

US - Guns, UK - No guns, hmmmm how does this work?:D
Like most anti-gun people, you fail to list the thousands of people last year who protected themselves and other people with firearms. I find that information that is missing to be very telling...

:: Learn something...

* Americans use firearms to defend themselves from criminals at least 764,000 times a year. This figure is the lowest among a group of 9 nationwide surveys done by organizations including Gallup and the Los Angeles Times. (16b)

* In 1982, a survey of imprisoned criminals found that 34% of them had been "scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim." (16c)


* Washington D.C. enacted a virtual ban on handguns in 1976. Between 1976 and 1991, Washington D.C.'s homicide rate rose 200%, while the U.S. rate rose 12%. (1)

:: More...

* Florida adopted a right-to-carry law in 1987. At the time the law was passed, critics predicted increases in violence. The founder of the National Organization of Women, Betty Friedan stated:
"lethal violence, even in self defense, only engenders more violence." (13)
* When the law went into effect, the Dade County Police began a program to record all arrest and non arrest incidents involving concealed carry licensees. Between September of 1987 and August of 1992, Dade County recorded 4 crimes committed by licensees with firearms. None of these crimes resulted in an injury. The record keeping program was abandoned in 1992 because there were not enough incidents to justify tracking them. (13)(15)

* Florida adopted a right-to-carry law in 1987. Between 1987 and 1996, these changes occurred:

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* 221,443 concealed carry licenses were issued in Florida between October of 1987 and April of 1994. During that time, Florida recorded 18 crimes committed by licensees with firearms. (15)

* As of 1998, nationwide, there has been 1 recorded incident in which a permit holder shot someone following a traffic accident. The permit holder was not charged, as the grand jury ruled the shooting was in self defense. (7)

* As of 1998, no permit holder has ever shot a police officer. There have been several cases in which a permit holder has protected an officer's life. (7)

:: From the BBC; Why Britain needs more guns

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2656875.stm

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

[General Septem]

Cool post Freak, I didn't know all that, that's very interesting. :D

I would also like to add that dangerous as guns may seem to be, statistically speaking, doctor error resulting in serious injury is more common than accidental injury by firearms.

Furthermore, if guns were more encouraged, more funds would be put into proper training on gun safety (including gun storage and locking), making accidental injury by guns even rarer.

[who897]

Why are we the world police? Do you really have to ask that question? I guess you would rather be speaking german right now. Ohh how about how much freaking money and food we supply to the world, and all's we get back is contempt. Like any community their is police, the world is no different, someone must stand up for everyone elses rights.

[freakazoid]

Cool post Freak, I didn't know all that, that's very interesting. :D

I would also like to add that dangerous as guns may seem to be, statistically speaking, doctor error resulting in serious injury is more common than accidental injury by firearms.

Furthermore, if guns were more encouraged, more funds would be put into proper training on gun safety (including gun storage and locking), making accidental injury by guns even rarer.

Thanks, General. Yup, I totally agree; "if guns were more encouraged, more funds would be put into proper training on gun safety." Hell, cars kill more people than guns! :eek:

[freakazoid]

Why are we the world police? Do you really have to ask that question? I guess you would rather be speaking german right now. Ohh how about how much freaking money and food we supply to the world, and all's we get back is contempt. Like any community their is police, the world is no different, someone must stand up for everyone elses rights.

Right on, I agree. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif