Books, Will NOT Be Replaced With This!!!

[Rise Up]

WTF!@!! People want to replace good old books with a piece of electronics that displays the words? Am I the only one here who finds an enjoyment in turning the pages and feeling the texture of said pages when reading a book?!?! :mad:
Piece of shit. :rolleyes::mad::(
http://www.slate.com/id/2214243/?GT1=38002

[Baron Somebody]

Then books would onl have a limited life and they probably wouldn't allow them on airplanes...this is balls

[Rise Up]

If this becomes more used than books then I will walk around with a squirt bottle squirting the piece o shits as I see them.

[Baron Somebody]

People really think technology is the answer all the time...like if something is new then it is automatically better

[MrJim]

Books will still be books for the foreseeable future. e-Books and the like are just not practical to enough people to become a threat.

[ballzack]

Happened to notice yesterday on my flight from New York to Florida that 1/2 the guys in first class were reading eBooks.
I was reading a paper copy of The New York Times - The Nazi Rag that really keeps me attuned to what the current leaders are thinking. (See Shit-for-brain plans and Marxist Socialism) ;)

Anyway, one told me Sony was offering something like 10,000 eBooks for FREE if you bought their reader.

No thanks. If you want an eBook that badly, just download a reader on your laptop.
I'm simplifying my life. FEW electronics. I've got a Blackberry, and my laptop. That's it. Nothing more, ever. Unless the new leaders say we have to start wearing electronic collars for tracking purposes....and that won't surprise me.

I'll stick with paper books.

[Carrot]

You're never going to take one of them to the beach, and you'll look like a twat if you do.

There's just no point in them.

[Montanarchist]

People really think technology is the answer all the time...like if something is new then it is automatically better

Tell that to Gutenberg :D

[Rise Up]

You're never going to take one of them to the beach, and you'll look like a twat if you do.

There's just no point in them.

That's something I definitely agree with. Unless your talking about that eBook thing.

[Hammerhead]

this is so damn stupid, we are losing our newspapers
and in 10 to 15 years our books maybe gone also
i actually enjoy sitting in my comfortable plush lazee boy chair
and losing myself in a good book

[Rise Up]

this is so damn stupid, we are losing our newspapers
and in 10 to 15 years our books maybe gone also
i actually enjoy sitting in my comfortable plush lazee boy chair
and losing myself in a good book

I enjoy it to. Except I sit in trees, windowsills, on rocks, on couches, etc. Anywhere I can read I do. Does anybody have any good books they think I should check out before this shit takes over?

[Hammerhead]

well if you like fantasy,
STEVEN ERICKSON, TALES OF THE MALAZAN EMPIRE BOOKS OF THE FALLEN
there are 10 books in the series and 8 of them are out

HARRY TURTLEDOVE, he writes alternate history
i just read DAYS OF INFAMY and END OF THE BEGINING
these two books are about Pearl harbour and how the japs attacked
attacked and actually took over

ROBERT JORDON , THE WHEEL OF TIME SERIES
its i believe 12 books little long winded but over all pretty good

Terry Goodkind , The Sword of Truth series
it is also 10 books long and very good

and these authors are pretty good to
David Weber, John Ringo, David Eddings, Brian Ruckley
to name a few i can give you more later if you like

[Rise Up]

I read some Harry Turtledove. I think he's the author who wrote the three books where a coalition fleet dissapears and shows up at Midway in 1942 and fucked up history. I think. :cool:

Have you read any Tom Clancy? That man is a beast when it comes to military thrillers. Just finished, "The Bear and the Dragon" today. Awesome book. Loved how the old Russian sniper with the golden wolf pelts owned the Chinese general. :cool:

[Hammerhead]

i've played the video games based on his books but never read any
for some reason i have a hard time getting into spy,action,thrillers
i can read military if it is futuristic thou
oh well to each their own i guess
as long as you read is the good thing
your excersizing your mind and you are learning
keep reading my friend

[Rise Up]

i've played the video games based on his books but never read any
for some reason i have a hard time getting into spy,action,thrillers
i can read military if it is futuristic thou
oh well to each their own i guess
as long as you read is the good thing
your excersizing your mind and you are learning
keep reading my friend

Are you into spec ops kinds of books? If so I would suggest Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six, it has plenty of action and a really good story line. The Bear and the Dragon is mostly politics until the Chinese invade the Russian border then you get like 50 pages of non-stop action. I read a good war book called, "Red Phoenix" a book about a secret North Korean plan to invade the South and unite the two Koreas. It's pretty good. It starts out with South Koreans finding a HUGE North Korean tunnel with tanks and vehicles leading into South Korea. Underneath the border. Needless to say it's pretty good. I especially liked the Army ROTC guy. He's scared shitless at first and fakes death, then he becomes a godammed hero. :cool: Excellent book. 5 out of 5.

[Hammerhead]

no i have'nt but i'll check it out thou

[Rise Up]

no i have'nt but i'll check it out thou

It's really good. I love the main characters. You get to notice that Clancy uses a lot of the same people in his books. Like John Clark. And Robbie Jackson. And especially Jack Ryan.

Oh another good one is Red Storm Rising. It has I believe THREE theatres of war. Germany, Iceland, and the war in the air. Great World War 3 novel. :cool:

[dmacfour]

I second the Wheel of Time series.

[Timper]

I third The Wheel of Time series
second The Sword of Truth series
second David Eddings' Belgariad and Mallorean series
add Garth Nix

[jtpickens]

I see these gizmo's on Amazon.com all the time they look like shit and will never replace books since you can't really get into a story reading it from a kindle as would reading a book and turning the page. Besides if the battery dies and there is no outlet you're fucked like chuck.

[yee-haw]

I see these gizmo's on Amazon.com all the time they look like shit and will never replace books since you can't really get into a story reading it from a kindle as would reading a book and turning the page. Besides if the battery dies and there is no outlet you're fucked like chuck.

Wave of the future though, 100% electronic.

[Baron Somebody]

Wave of the future though, 100% electronic.

The future is ass then...they even used books in Star Wars lol

[Rise Up]

The future is ass then...they even used books in Star Wars lol

They used books for LOTR to. :D

[Pau Diaz]

I sympathize with Rise Up's concern. As an aspiring writer of RPG I have taken great pride in using printed publications. E-books just wouldn't be the same. You can't touch them, hold them in your hands and enjoy looking through them. Also your eyes don't get tired when you read a book in the same way they do when you stare at a computer screen.

[LedZap]

I piss on rise up's concern.

[Carrot]

Plus you can't tick the pages, write in the margins, use to steady a table, kill a bug, burn, use as toilet paper, read on a beach, throw across the room, use as a tablemat, skim through or hide stuff in e-books.

Anyone hear about what googles doing? Bleh.

[Pau Diaz]

I think public retail of books is put at risk by ebooks. Okay, you download ebooks from the Internet, but then they become soley your private property. At the same time they are openly available on a computer screen, they're not seen in a bookstore, so books become something to be taken from the personal domain and kept behind closed doors.

[AceTracer]

The Kindle will not replace books.

The Kindle has its use. For example, I recently went on a three month backpacking trip through Europe. Due to size/weight constraints I was only able to take one phonebook-sized guidebook to cover all 20+ countries I visited. I would have loved to have a Kindle so I could have a dedicated guidebook for each country, or even each city, and it wouldn't have taken up any space.

This will also be great for textbooks and reference materials; carrying one tablet with instantly updated information will be much nicer than a ton of heavy books that are obsolete before they leave the printing press.

The ability to read the first chapter of hundreds of thousands of books for free is another benefit. I too prefer actual books, and don't plan to buy a Kindle for myself, but if I can download a Kindle chapter on my laptop and see if I like the book before I buy it that will be nice.

New technologies seldom replace older ones. Books aren't going anywhere.

[Montanarchist]

New technologies seldom replace older ones. Books aren't going anywhere.

New technologies constantly replace older ones. Only problem here is that the Kindle isn't actually better than books.

[AceTracer]

I find it funny that somehow ebooks are jeopardizing bookstores. Did you know that there are buildings in every city in America where people can borrow books for free? And yet, bookstores are still in business! Amazing.

[AceTracer]

New technologies constantly replace older ones. Only problem here is that the Kindle isn't actually better than books.
I just stated many ways where the Kindle is better than a printed book.

[Montanarchist]

I just stated many ways where the Kindle is better than a printed book.

But not in terms of just sitting down and having a good read. Reading several hundred pages on a screen is not comfortable.

[LedZap]

But not in terms of just sitting down and having a good read. Reading several hundred pages on a screen is not comfortable.

Yeah , it's real hard on the eyes.

[AceTracer]

I'm guessing neither of you have actually used a Kindle. It doesn't have a backlit "screen" in the traditional sense. It has an e-ink display that looks very similar to newspaper print. That's what all the fuss is about. It doesn't even draw power except to "change" the page; hence why you can go weeks between charges with regular use.

[Montanarchist]

I'm guessing neither of you have actually used a Kindle. It doesn't have a backlit "screen" in the traditional sense. It has an e-ink display that looks very similar to newspaper print. That's what all the fuss is about. It doesn't even draw power except to "change" the page; hence why you can go weeks between charges with regular use.

If it really is better than books, then books will be replaced.

[AceTracer]

Why does it have to be one or the other? It's better than books at some things, and not better than books at other things. Print news is better at some things, online news is better at others.

A real book never runs out of batteries. A Kindle is never out of date. Neither is ultimately superior, and neither will be replaced.

[Pau Diaz]

Why does it have to be one or the other? It's better than books at some things, and not better than books at other things. Print news is better at some things, online news is better at others.

A real book never runs out of batteries. A Kindle is never out of date. Neither is ultimately superior, and neither will be replaced.

Exactly. This is the best attitude to have. Books are longer lasting, they demand attention without straining the eyes due to plasma screens gradually tiring the eyes and then causing serious headaches. Plus if your computer breaks down, you risk loosing your literature.

[Phoenix]

Does anyone find it ironic that a thread started to defend written literature has a grammatical error in the title?

[Pau Diaz]

It stands to reason. When people are mad they tend not to pay attention to the construction of their words or phrases.

[Carrot]

Why does it have to be one or the other? It's better than books at some things, and not better than books at other things. Print news is better at some things, online news is better at others.

A real book never runs out of batteries. A Kindle is never out of date. Neither is ultimately superior, and neither will be replaced.

Print news is at a crisis point at the moment due to online news though.

[Pau Diaz]

Around me On-line news serves as a cheaper way to deliver it, keeping much in tune with the Catalan mentality. They save money for themselves and spend less in how news is delivered.

[The Lavish Writer]

I agree with hammerhead. There is nothing better than loosing yourself in a book. These damn ebooks are just stupid. I don't ever see them replacing books though we just use books for to many things

[beelzebub]

WTF!@!! People want to replace good old books with a piece of electronics that displays the words?

I know he is banned but.... I wanted to answer some of these points because I am considering buying one.


"Am I the only one here who finds an enjoyment in turning the pages and feeling the texture of said pages when reading a book?"

This is probably due to the love reading. Its similar to heroine users who "love the feel of the needle going into their skin". I am not saying books are drugs but what I am saying is that people grow to love the aspects of the book because they enjoy reading.

People may grow to love the feel of the e-reader. The touch of the buttons etc.... Perhaps in 30+ years they will come out with a new "virtual book" and people will say the same stuff about the feel of their e-reader.


Piece of shit. :rolleyes::mad::(
http://www.slate.com/id/2214243/?GT1=38002

I don't think paper books will ever be completely destroyed as they have a function and they never require batteries.

However the e-readers I am looking at have WONDERFUL aspects:

1) Regular Books that cost 20 to 40 bucks are $10 on line,
2) Textbooks (my main interest) cost 1/2 to 1/3 the price.
3) You can store 1.5 K to 3.5 K books on ONE e-reader.
4) You can highlight books
5) Some readers read to you (usefull when you have to read and can do it while driving)
6) Some allow you to loan your books to others.
7) You can read PDFs on it.
8) You can get a new book in 10 min without leaving your home.
9) Saves Trees.
10) This could SAVE the newspaper industry.

Just some food for thought.

[MrJim]

2) Textbooks (my main interest) cost 1/2 to 1/3 the price.

Interesting... do they currently offer college textbooks online? Do you have a link?

I started to order the regular college texts online to save money, but they often turn out to be bootlegs and I can't return them at the end of the year.

[beelzebub]

Interesting... do they currently offer college textbooks online? Do you have a link?

I started to order the regular college texts online to save money, but they often turn out to be bootlegs and I can't return them at the end of the year.

Here is are some examples:

http://www.amazon.com/Microbiology-Principles-Explorations-7e-ebook/dp/B000SK3TYQ/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&s=digital-text&qid=1261593129&sr=1-20

http://www.amazon.com/Molecular-Ecology-ebook/dp/B001397KJ6/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&s=digital-text&qid=1261593279&sr=1-15

[MrJim]

Here is are some examples:

http://www.amazon.com/Microbiology-Principles-Explorations-7e-ebook/dp/B000SK3TYQ/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&s=digital-text&qid=1261593129&sr=1-20

http://www.amazon.com/Molecular-Ecology-ebook/dp/B001397KJ6/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&s=digital-text&qid=1261593279&sr=1-15

Well I'll be damned... never even heard of such. I'm giving that a bookmark for the upcoming semester. So long as my laptop is fixed before class starts, that's a wonderful idea!

[beelzebub]

Well I'll be damned... never even heard of such. I'm giving that a bookmark for the upcoming semester. So long as my laptop is fixed before class starts, that's a wonderful idea!

Yeah,... its pretty amazing. I just I have to figure out is I really will use it or not and which one to get!

Right now it is looking like the Kindle DX just because it can read to you.

[Carrot]

Still prefer books though.

[Controversy]

So do I. Imagine how tired your eyes would get if you had to access your computer to read them. LCD tires them less, granted, but the effect would still be the same. Also you'd wear out your computer even more if you played games, typed documents and went on forums as well.

[beelzebub]

So do I. Imagine how tired your eyes would get if you had to access your computer to read them. LCD tires them less, granted, but the effect would still be the same.

Uhhh... Readers use e-Ink not an LCD screen. The screens look just like printed paper (no backlight). This is why you can read it even in direct light. This is also the reason that they can last 10 days or more without a charge.