pipe smokers live longer than non smokers

[aslan]

in 1964 along with the cigarettes are bad report, the surgeon general also said that pipe smokers tend to live longer than non smokers

it seems that this report is not spread by the media and therefore widley unknown

[Baron Somebody]

Does weed count? :D

[yee-haw]

in 1964 along with the cigarettes are bad report, the surgeon general also said that pipe smokers tend to live longer than non smokers

it seems that this report is not spread by the media and therefore widley unknown

Reckon we'll just have to take your word for it huh? :rolleyes:

[Hammerhead]

about a snuff dipper do we live longer then smokers?

[Montanarchist]

about a snuff dipper do we live longer then smokers?

I'm pretty sure you do.

[LedZap]

in 1964 along with the cigarettes are bad report, the surgeon general also said that pipe smokers tend to live longer than non smokers

it seems that this report is not spread by the media and therefore widley unknown

Where did you acquire this 45 year old information?

[aslan]

Where did you acquire this 45 year old information?

http://www.meerschaumstore.com/health.htm

thats just one source you can look it up on google or something

[yee-haw]

about a snuff dipper do we live longer then smokers?

Only if it's skoal, Brother!:D

[Baron Somebody]

http://www.meerschaumstore.com/health.htm

thats just one source you can look it up on google or something

ROFL nice one

[LedZap]

http://www.meerschaumstore.com/health.htm

thats just one source you can look it up on google or something

Don't they SELL PIPES ? Why wouldn't they say pipe smoking is good for you ?

[Carrot]

Pipe smokers would generally lead more risk free lives.

I'm fairly sure people who knit live longer than non knitters too, and people who wear beige.

[LedZap]

Pipe smokers would generally lead more risk free lives.

I'm fairly sure people who knit live longer than non knitters too.

non knitter..........something funny about that

[aslan]

Don't they SELL PIPES ? Why wouldn't they say pipe smoking is good for you ?

pipe store or not the surgeon general did say that and again there are other sources

[yee-haw]

Pipe smokers would generally lead more risk free lives.

I'm fairly sure people who knit live longer than non knitters too, and people who wear beige.

Huh?
WTF....


Pipe smokers would generally lead more risk free lives?

[Carrot]

Huh?
WTF....


Pipe smokers would generally lead more risk free lives?

Think about the type of person who would smoke a pipe.

They aren't as likely to die speeding, doing DIY, dangerous sports, or catch infections given their lifestyle.

Ontop of that they would probably start smoking pipes when they got older. Croquet players probably have longer lives than averagae too, given that most of them are already older than the average lifespan.

[LedZap]

Think about the type of person who would smoke a pipe.

They aren't as likely to die speeding, doing DIY, dangerous sports, or catch infections given their lifestyle.

What about throat cancer from the tobacco?

[Carrot]

What about throat cancer from the tobacco?

That doesn't kill you young.

I'm explaining why the statistics might apparently *show* that smoking a pipe leads you to living longer than not smoking a all. Unless you agree with that?

[LedZap]

From Michael Thun, MD, vice president of epidemiology and surveillance for the American Cancer Society,

"Tobacco is highly addictive and remarkably destructive, however you use it," Thun says. In other words, it's doesn't matter if you smoke tobacco or puff it in a pipe: it's a potent cause of cancer and other diseases.

Decades ago, doctors began to notice high rates of tongue cancer in pipe smokers. Since then, pipe smoking has been shown to cause cancer of the mouth, lip, tongue, throat, larynx, and lung, Thun says. According to Thun, pipe smokers may also increase their risk of contracting other cancers that plague cigarette smokers: cancer of the pancreas, kidney, bladder, colon, and cervix as well as leukemia and diseases such as chronic obstructive lung disease, stroke, and coronary heart disease.


http://www.ahealthyme.com/topic/pipes

[Rise Up]

Smoking kills you. It's straight up fact. You can't deny it. :mad:

[aslan]

From Michael Thun, MD, vice president of epidemiology and surveillance for the American Cancer Society,

"Tobacco is highly addictive and remarkably destructive, however you use it," Thun says. In other words, it's doesn't matter if you smoke tobacco or puff it in a pipe: it's a potent cause of cancer and other diseases.

Decades ago, doctors began to notice high rates of tongue cancer in pipe smokers. Since then, pipe smoking has been shown to cause cancer of the mouth, lip, tongue, throat, larynx, and lung, Thun says. According to Thun, pipe smokers may also increase their risk of contracting other cancers that plague cigarette smokers: cancer of the pancreas, kidney, bladder, colon, and cervix as well as leukemia and diseases such as chronic obstructive lung disease, stroke, and coronary heart disease.


http://www.ahealthyme.com/topic/pipes

just as eating fast food contributes to clogged arteries, heart attacks, colon cancer etc

[yee-haw]

Think about the type of person who would smoke a pipe.

They aren't as likely to die speeding, doing DIY, dangerous sports, or catch infections given their lifestyle.

Ontop of that they would probably start smoking pipes when they got older. Croquet players probably have longer lives than averagae too, given that most of them are already older than the average lifespan.

Well, Good point.

[LedZap]

just as eating fast food contributes to clogged arteries, heart attacks, colon cancer etc

yes and........

[Carrot]

I'm not saying smoking is good for you, as it seems some members seem to think I'm saying!

I'm explaining why the sats cited in this thread (the title specifically) might say smoking is good for you when that clearly is not the case.

[Phoenix]

in 1964 along with the cigarettes are bad report, the surgeon general also said that pipe smokers tend to live longer than non smokers

it seems that this report is not spread by the media and therefore widley unknown

And now, for the rest of the story (what am I? Paul Harvey?)
http://www.meerschaumstore.com/health.htm

" A subsequent revision of this report, which appeared in 1979, concluded that pipe smoking increased the mortality ratio slightly, when compared with non-smokers, but the effect was minimal when compared to cigarette smokeres. Pipe smokers using four or fewer bowls of tobacco per day had a lower moratility ratio than non-smokers - meaning the [b]death rate was less for occasional pipe smokers than for the general population.
Since then, other reports have emerged, including the 1982 Surgeon General's reportwhich concluded that pipe smokers have a 2 -4.3 times greater risk of lung cancer than non-smokers."

[Rise Up]

2-4.3 more risk of cancer?
SHITE!! Makes you think doesn't it? :eek:

[aslan]

2-4.3 more risk of cancer?
SHITE!! Makes you think doesn't it? :eek:

that depends if you inhale

the most probable is mouth cancer which is mostly not fatal...but if you dont get it operated on fast, you could end up a lip deformed freak :eek:

[Rise Up]

that depends if you inhale

the most probable is mouth cancer which is mostly not fatal...but if you dont get it operated on fast, you could end up a lip deformed freak :eek:

Well an easy way to prevent that is to NOT smoke. :rolleyes:

[Baron Somebody]

that depends if you inhale

the most probable is mouth cancer which is mostly not fatal...but if you dont get it operated on fast, you could end up a lip deformed freak :eek:

Isn't Yee Haw's avatar hilarious?

[Rise Up]

Isn't Yee Haw's avatar hilarious?

Ummm that's a little random but no. It's awesome to the max. That was one of the best fucking movies ever. ;)

[Baron Somebody]

Ummm that's a little random but no. It's awesome to the max. That was one of the best fucking movies ever. ;)

It's just when Aslan and I first saw it, we thought the guy's name was something weird (pronounced like Shoogah) and there's this SOAD song called Sugar so we all laughed

[Rise Up]

Uhhhh okay? I can't remember his name. Been a while. Shit, must find the movie. BRB!!! :D

[Baron Somebody]

Uhhhh okay? I can't remember his name. Been a while. Shit, must find the movie. BRB!!! :D

It's Anton Chigurh I think...I could be wrong though but ya he is pretty cool

[yee-haw]

Antan Shugur.

[Rise Up]

Yeah. Sounds Russian. At least Baltic. :confused:
Anyone else have theories? :D

[yee-haw]

Yeah. Sounds Russian. At least Baltic. :confused:
Anyone else have theories? :D

Spain...:rolleyes:

[Baron Somebody]

Antan Shugur.

ROFL IT IS SHUGUR AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

[Rise Up]

Spain...:rolleyes:

The actor or the character? :confused:

[Baron Somebody]

The actor is actually Mexican, and my grandma loves him for some reason I have no idea why

[Rise Up]

The actor is actually Mexican, and my grandma loves him for some reason I have no idea why

Because he is a beast with his silenced shotgun. And that CO2 thing. :D

[yee-haw]

He's not mexican, He's from spain... His name is javier bardeem.
He's the brad pitt of spain.

[Baron Somebody]

I want one of those CO2 things, and I didn't know he was from Spain...kinda a weird role for someone like that but he did good...friendo

[Rise Up]

Agreed. That CO2 thing was awesome. Take it into school........mmmm happy thoughts. :)

[Baron Somebody]

Lightsabers still pwn anything you can think of though

[Baron Somebody]

We better stop here...I sense a derailment in the Force...

[Rise Up]

Lightsabers still pwn anything you can think of though

But CSI would be able to tell whose lightsaber it was. A-ha!! Purple lightsaber crystal!! It was Mace Windu!!! He fell out the window remember? Shit. :D

[Baron Somebody]

Just as a thought if I had to choose a lightsaber crystal it would be tie dye with red and blue mixed

[Rise Up]

Just as a thought if I had to choose a lightsaber crystal it would be tie dye with red and blue mixed

Mine would be green with a hooked handle. And orange also. Half green, half orange. :D

DARTH BANE FTW!!!

[Baron Somebody]

Mine would be green with a hooked handle. And orange also. Half green, half orange. :D

DARTH BANE FTW!!!

Darth Nihilus would pwn Bane any time...Darth Vader also pwned Bane so HA

[yee-haw]

Post a pic of it then, Baron.

[Rise Up]

Darth Nihilus would pwn Bane any time...Darth Vader also pwned Bane so HA

Darth Bane kicked ass wiping out the retard Sith and a ton of the Jedi with the Force Bomb thing. And with the trick where he burned the whole forest down. :D
Did Vader do that? No....he has to use a fucking Death Star to destroy a planet. And Revan kicks all their asses. :cool:

[yee-haw]

Maybe you should start a jedi vs. sith thread.

[Rise Up]

Maybe you should start a jedi vs. sith thread.

Sith kick ass. Jedi are all lovey dovey. It's sad how shitty they are. :D

[Baron Somebody]

Darth Bane kicked ass wiping out the retard Sith and a ton of the Jedi with the Force Bomb thing. And with the trick where he burned the whole forest down. :D
Did Vader do that? No....he has to use a fucking Death Star to destroy a ship. And Revan kicks all their asses. :cool:

Actually no Nihilus has killed the life off entire planets just by being there, then he consumes their life force to nourish himself

[yee-haw]

Maybe you should start a jedi vs. sith thread.

Ok, Maybe so it's not the real life star wars thread... Hint, Hint.;)

[Baron Somebody]

Sith kick ass. Jedi are all lovey dovey. It's sad how shitty they are. :D

No actually there are some cool Jedi like Plo Koon, Kit Fisto, Aayla Secura, and others that I could go on for hours about

[Rise Up]

Actually no Nihilus has killed the life off entire planets just by being there, then he consumes their life force to nourish himself

I never actually heard of Nihilus.....wait. Was he the mask douche from KOTOR 2?

[Baron Somebody]

I never actually heard of Nihilus.....wait. Was he the mask douche from KOTOR 2?

Yes :mad: :mad:

[Rise Up]

Yes :mad: :mad:

Well, I was more concerned about the muscle douche. And I let someone borrow KOTOR from me and I have yet to get it back. He sucks lmao. :D
Nihilus was easy. Used my silver lightsaber AND my orange lightsaber. Yes, I said silver. I found a silver lightsaber color crystal. :D Luck was on my side.

[Baron Somebody]

I know he was in the game but he is probably the most powerful Sith lord ever...Starkiller comes in 2nd along with Vader

[Rise Up]

I know he was in the game but he is probably the most powerful Sith lord ever...Starkiller comes in 2nd along with Vader

Starkiller? You mean....Bendak Starkiller. That dude was a godammed pushover. :D

[General Septem]

The only acceptable way of using tobacco is to use snus. Like dip, it is loose tobacco that you roll up a wad of and put it under your lip. You can also buy it portioned in small bags which are kind of like tea bags I guess. Unlike any other form of tobacco, it is steam cured and not fire cured, is not fermented, and contains no added sugar. It's advantages:

1. You don't look like you have a cock in your mouth, and it does not require you in any way to approximate the action of sucking a cock.

2. It has almost no carcinogens, and studies have not linked it to any significantly increased risk of cancer.

3. It doesn't fuck up your gums (Jesus Christ, Firefox doesn't know the word gums?) like dip does.

I've never used it, but I know guys who swear by it. Most Americans have never even heard of it.

It was also banned in the EU just like everything else is.

[MrJim]

in 1964 along with the cigarettes are bad report, the surgeon general also said that pipe smokers tend to live longer than non smokers

it seems that this report is not spread by the media and therefore widley unknown

This is true. It's all because of the paper, actually, which contains a TON of carcinogens.

Of course smoking is always going to be considered 'bad' in any form. A smoker's mortality still depends heavily on luck.

[yee-haw]

The only acceptable way of using tobacco is to use snus. Like dip, it is loose tobacco that you roll up a wad of and put it under your lip. You can also buy it portioned in small bags which are kind of like tea bags I guess. Unlike any other form of tobacco, it is steam cured and not fire cured, is not fermented, and contains no added sugar. It's advantages:

1. You don't look like you have a cock in your mouth, and it does not require you in any way to approximate the action of sucking a cock.

2. It has almost no carcinogens, and studies have not linked it to any significantly increased risk of cancer.

3. It doesn't fuck up your gums (Jesus Christ, Firefox doesn't know the word gums?) like dip does.

I've never used it, but I know guys who swear by it. Most Americans have never even heard of it.

It was also banned in the EU just like everything else is.

I'm actually using this now, As a stay off the cigarette step down.
I'm not sure if this is smart, I've been told it's not good to quit cold turkey
after years of smoking.

[LedZap]

Actually , that's a good idea Haw

[yee-haw]

Actually , that's a good idea Haw

I've heard it was, I just don't want it to lead back to smoking eventually.

[aslan]

where can you get snus? can you get it at places like walmart or do you have to go to a tobacco store?

[yee-haw]

where can you get snus? can you get it at places like walmart or do you have to go to a tobacco store?

I got mine at a smoke store, I'm sure wal-mart probably carries it also.

[General Septem]

You can get it from a smoke shop, but I have heard the American snus is horrible compared to the real thing. I have never tried it before so I don't know, but the guys I know who snus buy it online. I doubt Wal-Mart has any imported.

Haw, if you're interested in snus, check out The Snus Thread over at Arthur's Hall. They know much more than I do about it. If I am not mistaken, Arthur's brand of choice is Skruf.

[yee-haw]

Haw, if you're interested in snus, check out The Snus Thread


I will definitely look into it, Missed that thread somehow.
Thanks General.

[katlyinnn]

I don't think that is right, ya i heard on many places and also read that pipe smoking is better then smoking simple cigarettes and chewing tobacco. maybe this is true cause the effect of tobacco and marijuana got less in pipes. i also do smoking in glass pipes and that is really very good.

cheers!!

[yee-haw]

I don't think that is right, ya i heard on many places and also read that pipe smoking is better then smoking simple cigarettes and chewing tobacco. maybe this is true cause the effect of tobacco and marijuana got less in pipes. i also do smoking in glass pipes and that is really very good.

cheers!!

Old ass thread but welcome to our board!