Hey General Septem...

[freakazoid]

How goes the building of the wood / acrylic PC case, mang?

[General Septem]

I'm still in the design phase, to be honest. For the time being it doesn't look like the shop is going to be usable for a while still. You see we're working on a piano down there, and it kind of takes up the whole shop. We had the movers come today but they couldn't move it because it was raining, so it's going to be another two weeks probably. :/

[freakazoid]

I'm still in the design phase, to be honest. For the time being it doesn't look like the shop is going to be usable for a while still. You see we're working on a piano down there, and it kind of takes up the whole shop. We had the movers come today but they couldn't move it because it was raining, so it's going to be another two weeks probably. :/
Cool, how are you planning the design? Drawings? Autocad? I think I'm going to go with a prefab acrylic case I saw online. They look way too bitching to pass! :D ...

...this one, I think

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6296/img2494qe5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[General Septem]

Cool, how are you planning the design? Drawings? Autocad? I think I'm going to go with a prefab acrylic case I saw online. They look way too bitching to pass! :D ...

...this one, I think

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6296/img2494qe5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
That looks pretty awesome, and I see it's designed for watercooling :D

I did a drawing in AutoCAD but my trial version expired so I have to stick with pencil and paper until I find a suitable pirate version. :D

This was my concept design:

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/?action=view&current=computer.jpg&refPage=20&imgAnch=imgAnch27

I also drew this one:

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/?action=view&current=IMG_1476.jpg&refPage=20&imgAnch=imgAnch28

But other than the drives being accessable from the side of the case rather than the front, I'm not completely sure how much of this is going to be in the final version.

[freakazoid]

That looks pretty awesome, and I see it's designed for watercooling :D

I did a drawing in AutoCAD but my trial version expired so I have to stick with pencil and paper until I find a suitable pirate version. :D

This was my concept design:

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/?action=view&current=computer.jpg&refPage=20&imgAnch=imgAnch27

I also drew this one:

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/?action=view&current=IMG_1476.jpg&refPage=20&imgAnch=imgAnch28

But other than the drives being accessable from the side of the case rather than the front, I'm not completely sure how much of this is going to be in the final version.

Damn, I have a registration number for Autocad somewhere, will see if I can find it. If I do, will post it here. :D Yeah, the water cooling thing has me wanting to go for it. Water cool it and clock up the hell out of my CPU. I'm going with Intel Dual Core, so I'm going to read up on clocking up the dual core CPU...totally freaking nuts, but I love it, mang!! :D The faster the better!

[General Septem]

Damn, I have a registration number for Autocad somewhere, will see if I can find it. If I do, will post it here. :D Yeah, the water cooling thing has me wanting to go for it. Water cool it and clock up the hell out of my CPU. I'm going with Intel Dual Core, so I'm going to read up on clocking up the dual core CPU...totally freaking nuts, but I love it, mang!! :D The faster the better!
I remember the first time I overclocked my CPU I wasn't even planning to. I had actually thought about it but I didn't because I still had stock cooling, which I still actually do.

But I'd gone into the BIOS to figure out if there was some way I could lower the speed of my video card fan, and I saw that "FSB" setting there. And I knew that all I had to do was raise that up just a little, and I'd be overclocked. So I did. And the rest is history. :D

I've been thinking about watercooling too, though. It's quiet, which is a plus, but it's also a bit more expensive. If I don't go with watercooling I'll probably go for a Thermalright SI-128 or something, but I'm definitely keeping watercooling in mind when I design the case.

The pump I would want to go for is a Danger Den DDC pump or a Swiftech MCP350 (both are identical) and buy one of these for it: http://www.voyeurmods.com/index.php?action=item&id=2395&prevaction=category&previd=2&prevstart=0

Here's what the pump looks like with the mod: http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9145/alphacooltopled1xb9.jpg

[General Septem]

Here is the latest design, although this is kind of a rough example as the official copy is on paper:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computerblueprint.gif

As you can see there is a shit-ton of room that I can do virtually anything with. A few HDDs will go in the upper section but mostly for show, as I wish to showcase a possible future hard drive mod.

I'm thinking of using some of the extra room to allow mounting of a secondary motherboard, but more like a microATX board with a single small hard drive, something I can chat with people online with while I'm playing video games or something I can go online and look up what exactly "CPU VID" means while I'm in the BIOS of this PC, overclocking it. :D

[freakazoid]

Here is the latest design, although this is kind of a rough example as the official copy is on paper:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computerblueprint.gif

As you can see there is a shit-ton of room that I can do virtually anything with. A few HDDs will go in the upper section but mostly for show, as I wish to showcase a possible future hard drive mod.

I'm thinking of using some of the extra room to allow mounting of a secondary motherboard, but more like a microATX board with a single small hard drive, something I can chat with people online with while I'm playing video games or something I can go online and look up what exactly "CPU VID" means while I'm in the BIOS of this PC, overclocking it. :D
Hey General, way very cool. Killer! :D I'm looking into water cooling and still reading up on clocking up an Intel Dual Core. Doesn't seem to be any problem doing it. The cube case is ready for it. What is the deal on a secondary motherboard? Sounds totally cool! Are you going to upgrade to Microsoft Vista? I'm going to wait until they get the damn inevitable bugs out of it. Anyway, check this out...

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/04/05/the_pentium_d/

The Pentium D: Intel's Dual Core Silver Bullet Previewed

Patrick Schmid, Bert Töpelt

April 5, 2005 13:00

Welcome to the most anticipated new CPU development since the crossing of the Gigahertz barrier! Due to thermal dissipation issues, processors can no longer be given substantial clock speed improvements. This has led to many months of performance stagnation. Finally, Intel (http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/04/05/the_pentium_d/#) has come up with the latest concept in increasing performance levels, by integrating two or more processor (http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/04/05/the_pentium_d/#) cores into one chip. With this development, significant gains in performance seem to be within reach once again.

[General Septem]

Hey General, way very cool. Killer! :D I'm looking into water cooling and still reading up on clocking up an Intel Dual Core. Doesn't seem to be any problem doing it. The cube case is ready for it.

Watercooling is nice. I've been stuck between whether I want to go with watercooling or if I just want to get a Thermalright SI-128 or something. Thermalright's making several cooling products now, so I can get a chipset cooler, CPU cooler, and video card coolers and have them all match, which would look good aesthetically and would cool pretty well too. I'm leaving it open though, there's going to be more than enough room in the case if I do want to go with watercooling.


What is the deal on a secondary motherboard? Sounds totally cool!

Essentially it'll just be a separate computer only in the same case, and it'll be really small. Probably around a $250 budget, which I don't have, so it'll be a while, just like everything else. There are a lot of times I can really use a second PC though, just for small things like Internet access or chatting and whatnot. I might even just use a small LCD screen mounted to the acrylic side panel as a monitor.

There've been many times I've been in the BIOS, trying to figure out which setting is the one I want to change, and having a second computer would really help. Likewise, when I get addicted to a game and play it non-stop for a week, it would be nice to have a second PC just so that I can still talk to people and not get too backed up with email. :D


Are you going to upgrade to Microsoft Vista? I'm going to wait until they get the damn inevitable bugs out of it.

Sooner or later I'll upgrade, but I'm also thinking I'm going to wait until they get a few of the bugs worked out. Of coure they still haven't even got all the bugs out of XP so I'm not waiting too long. :D


Anyway, check this out...

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/04/05/the_pentium_d/

The Pentium D: Intel's Dual Core Silver Bullet Previewed

Patrick Schmid, Bert Töpelt

April 5, 2005 13:00

Welcome to the most anticipated new CPU development since the crossing of the Gigahertz barrier! Due to thermal dissipation issues, processors can no longer be given substantial clock speed improvements. This has led to many months of performance stagnation. Finally, Intel (http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/04/05/the_pentium_d/#) has come up with the latest concept in increasing performance levels, by integrating two or more processor (http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/04/05/the_pentium_d/#) cores into one chip. With this development, significant gains in performance seem to be within reach once again.

That article was written in 2005 mind you. Dual-core processors have been around for a bit now, although mine is still a single core. When I upgrade it'll definitely be a dual core, because I've heard nothing but good things about them.

[freakazoid]

That article was written in 2005 mind you. Dual-core processors have been around for a bit now, although mine is still a single core. When I upgrade it'll definitely be a dual core, because I've heard nothing but good things about them.

Same here on dual core processors. Looking forward to some kick ass speed. :D I am checking into other medthods of CPU cooling like Thermalright SI-128 ( http://www.overclockers.com/articles1340/ ) ...looks way cool (pun intended) :D

[General Septem]

Same here on dual core processors. Looking forward to some kick ass speed. :D I am checking into other medthods of CPU cooling like Thermalright SI-128 ( http://www.overclockers.com/articles1340/ ) ...looks way cool (pun intended) :D
Yes, the SI-128 is awesome, and it'll also cool the area around the CPU too because the fan hangs over, so it cools your RAM and MOSFETS and whatnot. Plus they have a chipset cooler (HR-05 and HR-05-SLI) and video card cooler (HR-03) which all match, which is practical from a purely aesthetic design aspect as well. It's what I'm currently leaning towards, although I won't have to decide for sure until I actually have money to spend. ;)

[beelzebub]

What are your opinions on Apple/Mac computers.?

[General Septem]

What are your opinions on Apple/Mac computers.?
I don't care for the operating system, specifically the GUI. I don't think it's layed out efficiently. But that's just me. I like having lots of buttons so that I can have essentially everything at my fingertips.

Whereas Mac designs their operating systems so that basically everything is done with a single bar at the top of the screen. So in order to do anything you have to go through a lot of menus, and you have to select the window you want so that the right menus even show up, and for me it's just not very efficient. Some people prefer it though as it does make for a cleaner look.

I also don't like to deal with companies through which everything is proprietary.

I'm definitely a PC man, but I'm not one of those people who says "Mac sucks". It's personal preference really.

I did write a rant on the iPod, however. But that's only because I'm kind of sick of seeing it get all the attention. Every time I read a review for some other mp3 player, I have to sift through all the "it's not as small as the iPod" or "the controls aren't as simple as an iPod" bullshit. Funny thing is, though, that I've never seen a review of a non-iPod mp3 player that says the iPod performs better. And then there's all the accessories that say "lol this is for yu0r ipod lol." No, dipshit, it works for any mp3 player, or don't you marketers know your own product? Sure a lot of them are specifically for the iPod but a lot of them work for any mp3 player. But I digress. :D

[freakazoid]

I don't care for the operating system, specifically the GUI. I don't think it's layed out efficiently. But that's just me. I like having lots of buttons so that I can have essentially everything at my fingertips.

Whereas Mac designs their operating systems so that basically everything is done with a single bar at the top of the screen. So in order to do anything you have to go through a lot of menus, and you have to select the window you want so that the right menus even show up, and for me it's just not very efficient. :D
I agree. The Mac GUI has not really been upgraded or improved in 22 years. It looks a little bit better, but it still functions on the screen as it did in 1984. The operating code has been upgraded for sure, but most users don't give a damn about lines of code that make up the system. I had one of the first Macs and it was awesome compared to anything out there though the price sucked! The Windows GUI started out pretty much a joke and really only came into the realm of being taken seriously when Windows 3.0 was released and it was still a piece of crap. Windows 3.1 was much better and that is the GUI version that I started to take seriously. From that point, or when Windows 95 finally came out, Windows became a serious world class GUI and has become better with each version including the new one of Window Vista. Macs still operate (GUI wise) as it did 22 years ago with the screen / GUI problems that the General points out. There is nothing you can do on a Mac that cannot be done on a PC operating Windows. Having said that, I believe that the future of GUI's will be very close (with a lot of improvements) as the video the General posted. The multi-point active touch screen, virtual keyboard, etc. I can see Windows moving toward that concept in the years to come as the screens get bigger, active (as with Tablet computers), and PC's get even more powerful and capable. It’s only a matter of time. I would love to have that touch screen system sitting on my desk today! Never satisfied! :D

[General Septem]

I agree. But don't get me started on Windows Vista XD

It would have to be very impressive for me to justify the fact that it takes up so much system resources. I like the GUI, but by the same token I'm still using the "Windows Classic" even though I'm using Windows XP. I'll have to look into Vista though. Have you beta tested it?

[freakazoid]

I agree. But don't get me started on Windows Vista XD

It would have to be very impressive for me to justify the fact that it takes up so much system resources. I like the GUI, but by the same token I'm still using the "Windows Classic" even though I'm using Windows XP. I'll have to look into Vista though. Have you beta tested it?

Hey General, I have one friend who is a beta tester. He likes what he sees so far, but the beta versions he has tested have required a lot of resources and drivers (like USB, scanner and video drivers) have been a real problem hopefully solved with the "final" release version. He considers "final versions" to be really only the "last beta" before the flood of "fixes, hot fixes, upgrades and patches." I'm going to wait it out before upgrading. Might wait a year or so and watch the sparks fly for a while. :D

[General Septem]

Hey General, I have one friend who is a beta tester. He likes what he sees so far, but the beta versions he has tested have required a lot of resources and drivers (like USB, scanner and video drivers) have been a real problem hopefully solved with the "final" release version. He considers "final versions" to be really only the "last beta" before the flood of "fixes, hot fixes, upgrades and patches." I'm going to wait it out before upgrading. Might wait a year or so and watch the sparks fly for a while. :D
That sounds smart. Kind of like instegating WWIII between America and Russia, and then conquering whoever the winner is while they're weak. :D

[freakazoid]

That sounds smart. Kind of like instegating WWIII between America and Russia, and then conquering whoever the winner is while they're weak. :D

Sounds like a good strategy to me! :D