Do you remember 1987.......

[LedZap]

Thought you
might be interested in this forgotten bit of
information.........

It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; 'Did you not recently spend close to 60,000 for a home security system?'

Ollie replied, 'Yes, I did, Sir.'

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't that just a little excessive?'

'No, sir,' continued Ollie.

'No? And why not?' the senator asked.

'Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir.'

'Threatened? By whom?' the senator questioned.

'By a terrorist, sir' Ollie answered.

'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'

'His name is Osama bin Laden, sir' Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so
afraid of this man?' the senator asked.

'Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of', Ollie answered.


'And what do you recommend we do about him?' asked the senator.

'Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.'

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.



By the way, that senator was Al Gore!

Also:


Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called 'political prisoners.'

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, 'insisted' that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked us by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center . This was reported
by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.

[Prometheus]

You can also thank uncle sam for training and funding al-Qaeda.

Claims have been made that the American government, and in particular the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), are responsible for enabling "Afghan Arabs," and in particular Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda.

In mid-1979, about the same time as the "Soviet deployment" into Afghanistan, the United States began giving several hundred million dollars a year in aid to the Afghan Mujahideen insurgents fighting the Afghan Marxist government and the Soviet Army in Operation Cyclone. Along with native Afghan mujahideen (fighters of jihad or "holy warriors") were Muslim volunteers from other countries, popularly known as "Afghan Arabs". The most famous of the Afghan Arabs was Osama bin Laden, known at the time as a wealthy and pious Saudi who provided his own money and helped raise millions from other wealthy Gulf Arabs.

As the war neared its end, bin Laden organized the al-Qaeda organization to carry on armed jihad in other venues, primarily against the United States — the country that had helped fund the mujahideen against the Soviets.

[yee-haw]

Damn zapper, Hind site is 20/20 huh?

Wow, All i can say... Gore was a bone head back then.

[Rise Up]

You can also thank uncle sam for training and funding al-Qaeda.

Claims have been made that the American government, and in particular the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), are responsible for enabling "Afghan Arabs," and in particular Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda.

In mid-1979, about the same time as the "Soviet deployment" into Afghanistan, the United States began giving several hundred million dollars a year in aid to the Afghan Mujahideen insurgents fighting the Afghan Marxist government and the Soviet Army in Operation Cyclone. Along with native Afghan mujahideen (fighters of jihad or "holy warriors") were Muslim volunteers from other countries, popularly known as "Afghan Arabs". The most famous of the Afghan Arabs was Osama bin Laden, known at the time as a wealthy and pious Saudi who provided his own money and helped raise millions from other wealthy Gulf Arabs.

As the war neared its end, bin Laden organized the al-Qaeda organization to carry on armed jihad in other venues, primarily against the United States — the country that had helped fund the mujahideen against the Soviets.

So, we funded the mujahideen. So, you're telling me that, if you had been the one funding them, oh wait, you're a Marxist. You'd be a Russian. Living in a pig sty making 500 bucks a year scraping shit off the shoes of the Russian Government.

Back on topic, how are we supposed to know that someone who was an ally would suddenly declare a jihad on America? Mind reading? Look into the future? :rolleyes:

[Prometheus]

So, we funded the mujahideen. So, you're telling me that, if you had been the one funding them, oh wait, you're a Marxist. You'd be a Russian. Living in a pig sty making 500 bucks a year scraping shit off the shoes of the Russian Government.

Back on topic, how are we supposed to know that someone who was an ally would suddenly declare a jihad on America? Mind reading? Look into the future? :rolleyes:

You can't see past the end of your own nose can you ? Mr "the zietgiest guy got his idea for the illuminati from a video game. You're fucking retarded dude.;)

[Rise Up]

You can't see past the end of your own nose can you ? Mr "the zietgiest guy got his idea for the illuminati from a video game. You're fucking retarded dude.;)

Hmmmm, name calling, personal attacks.....maybe...yeah, I think I might. No, too harsh. I mean, this IS a free speech board right? Well, not for trolls I wouldn't think.

[LedZap]

[QUOTE=Prometheus;90665]You can also thank uncle sam for training and funding al-Qaeda.

Claims have been made that the American government, and in particular the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), are responsible for enabling "Afghan Arabs," and in particular Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda.


Claims have been made ? WTF ?
Watching Tom Hank's movies again ? That's what happens when you sit around at home all day waiting for your old lady to come home from work with a beer for you.

[yee-haw]

[QUOTE=Prometheus;90665]You can also thank uncle sam for training and funding al-Qaeda.

Claims have been made that the American government, and in particular the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), are responsible for enabling "Afghan Arabs," and in particular Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda.


Claims have been made ? WTF ?
Watching Tom Hank's movies again ? That's what happens when you sit around at home all day waiting for your old lady to come home from work with a beer for you.

My ol' lady brought me home a half gallon of seagrems today.:D

Love that woman!

[Rise Up]

[quote=LedZap;90700]

My ol' lady brought me home a half gallon of seagrems today.:D

Love that woman!

Haw, I think we need a troll poll.

[Carrot]

I thought it was a well known fact Americans equipped arabs in that region to help stop the spread of the soviets.

[Prometheus]

[QUOTE=LedZap;90700]

My ol' lady brought me home a half gallon of seagrems today.:D

Love that woman!

Hell yeah !! " Man flowers ".:D

[yee-haw]

[QUOTE=yee-haw;90701]

Hell yeah !! " Man flowers ".:D


Gotta' love a woman who brings that kinda gift.:D

[England Expects]

Promo is absolutely right.

Bin Laden and his Mujahideen were allies of the US in the 80s. They only turned on the US after Saudi Arabia allowed the US in so the could kick Sadam out of Kuwait; a job that he/they wanted to do themselves.

Al Qaeda were armed, funded and trained by Reagan and Thatcher.

[aslan]

Promo is absolutely right.

Bin Laden and his Mujahideen were allies of the US in the 80s. They only turned on the US after Saudi Arabia allowed the US in so the could kick Sadam out of Kuwait; a job that he/they wanted to do themselves.

Al Qaeda were armed, funded and trained by Reagan and Thatcher.

Well, shit fire and save the matches!

[yee-haw]

Well, shit fire and save the matches!

Shit, Godamm, Hell and fuck!!

[AceTracer]

This never happened (http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp).


The terrorist North mentioned in his testimony was not Osama bin Laden, however. To the extent that bin Laden was known to the western world in 1987, it was not as a "terrorist" but as one of the U.S.-backed "freedom fighters" participating in the war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Osama bin Laden's hatred of the U.S. and conversion to "terrorist" status is not believed to have come about until the Gulf War of 1990-91, when he was outspokenly critical of Saudi Arabian dependence upon the U.S. military and denounced U.S. support of a "corrupt, materialist, and irreligious" Saudi monarchy.

Oliver North did not testify about or mention the name Osama bin Laden during the Iran-Contra hearings. He claimed that threats against his life had been made by terrorist Abu Nidal.

http://grab.by/oHT