The official Septem case thread

[General Septem]

I thought I had a thread on this somewhere else in the forum but I can't find it.

Anyway, the design:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computerblueprint.gif

Side view. The core pieces (the front and back bezel, top and bottom panel, and horizontal partition) are made out of wood. The bottom panel will be made out of some cheap wood (poplar maybe) with a walnut face frame as the bottom panel will not be seen.

That leaves four panels which will be a laminate of three walnut and two cherry pieces. We had some cherry stock that was already milled to the right dimensions, so I went by that when I designed the panels.

The stock:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1787.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1787.jpg)

There are three pieces of walnut for each panel; one on each side and one in the middle. The two on each side are each 3 1/4" wide, and the one in the middle is 2 1/2" wide.

That makes four pieces 2 1/2" wide (two are 24" long and two are 28" long) and eight pieces 3 1/4" wide (four are 24" long and four are 28" long).

Today I cut all the pieces I'd need for the two shorter panels, which will be the top panel and the middle partition between the drive section and the main section. These pieces are all 24" long except in cases where the stock I had was short enough that I didn't have to cut it to length, as these will be final trimmed once the panels are glued together.

The short pieces I cut:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1789.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1789.jpg)

As you can see, four wider pieces and two narrower pieces. The four wider pieces are further separated into the front pieces and the back pieces (or left and right, depending on your viewpoint).

This is because in order to not waste stock, I had to trim two of the wider pieces from rough stock that was only a tad wider to begin with, and as a result the rough edge was not completely cut off. These two pieces will be the right pieces as viewed from the "front" bezel, but as the actual front of this case is where the side is traditionally considered to be, the "right" panel will be the back panel and the rough edges will be facing the wall.

Here's the panel all together, and the last pic for this post. I haven't glued it up yet as I want to glue all four panels at the same time.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1791.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1791.jpg)


Next time in the shop, I'll rip the boards to width for the two longer panels, and then glue the panels all up.

[General Septem]

I finished dimensioning the rest of the stock. Here it is (click for larger):

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1793.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1793.jpg)

Apply yellow glue (I used Titebond III) to all mating edges and spread with a brush. I like to apply glue to both surfaces to ensure good coverage, and because that's how David Marks does it.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1796.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1796.jpg)

And all glued up:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1799.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1799.jpg)

Add clamps and let it cook:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1804.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1804.jpg)

I practice the Norm Abram school of gluing. XD

I'm not doing that ever again, though, because that glue did not come off easily. It comes off easy enough with a wet rag, when the glue is still wet.

This next pic is very large, 2048x1536:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1809.jpg

I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to get downstairs next. Next time I'm in the shop I will scrape the glue off, and either plane or sand the boards to thickness. Then cut the panels to length and begin to cut the dovetails on the ends.

[General Septem]

Last time, I glued up the panels and let them dry. I went back into the shop a while later to scrape the glue off of these panels, only to find that the glue dried so incredibly hard that I couldn't get them clean with anything other than a belt sander. Well that belt broke and I didn't get back into the shop for weeks after.

Well I got a new belt and finished removing all that glue squeeze-out, and I was ready to run the boards through the planer. If I had run them through the planer with beads of glue sticking up, I would've torn the knives up.

The planer leaves a real nice finish, and it also has a setting that lowers the feed speed of the rollers, allowing the blade to make twice the cuts per inch and leaving an even smoother finish. Unfortunately there was some kind of grain of sand or rock embedded in one of the panels (the wood must have grown around it). It was about the size of a grain of table salt, but it made a big nick in the blades. Not a big deal though; the cutter head has three blades, and if you slide one of these blades to the side, the nicks in each blade will overlap and still leave a smooth finish.

That's what I got done today. I also decided which boards go on which side, which side faces out and so on. Some of these boards had some defect as you'll see, and I decided that orienting them in a certain way will give the best chance of hiding these defects. I also took the time to write on each board all the cuts that need to be made on each one. I'll take care of that probably tomorrow.

And now for the pics (click for larger):

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1844.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1844.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1843.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1843.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1841.jpg


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Today I got all the panels cut to length and began cutting the pins for the half-blind dovetails on the ends of the panels. Again, the top and side panels will all have pins; they will be joined by a corner piece which will hold the sockets for the pins of both panels.

The process for cutting the pins is simple. Set the fence to where you need it, make your cut, flip the board around, make the second cut, flip the board end-for-end, make your third cut, and flip the board again for your final cut, and then repeat the process for the other boards. Then reset the fence for your next series of cuts. Doing it this way ensures that all boards will be symmetrical and consistent. I supported the piece by using a sled that rides along the fence.

And now, the pic (click for larger):

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1847.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1847.jpg)


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I finished the dovetail pins:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1870.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1870.jpg)

Next job is to get myself some wenge, cocobolo, ebony, or some other accenting wood for the corner pieces. I'm not going to find anything 12" wide at a reasonable price, so I'll probably have to get 4" or 6" boards and glue them together side-by-side.

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Got some more work done today. I took the purpleheart I bought yesterday and cut the sockets/tails in them. Then I fitted them with a chisel and glued them together. The result:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1898.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1890.jpg


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And here's what the dovetails look like with all the waste trimmed and sanded flush:


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1904.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1902.jpg

I used a little bit of water in that first pic to simulate what it'll look like finished.


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And more dovetailing done today. This time I cut the sockets in the end grain of the two side panels. Finally all the dovetailing is done, so I cut the dadoes for the middle and bottom panel. One thing about cutting dadoes is that you have to keep in mind if you want them a certain distance apart on center or a certain distance in between the dadoes.

For instance, if you want two dadoes 7" apart, if you wanted them 7" on center apart, then you move the fence over 7". If you want 7" in between the dadoes, you have to move the fence over 7" plus the width of the dado. ...Let's just say that's an easy mistake to make.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1913.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1911.jpg

[General Septem]

Placeholder #3 for further pics

[Ape-Shit]

This is going to be interesting!

[freakazoid]

This is going to be interesting!

I agree, should be cool. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif Still going to work with acrylic also, General?

[General Septem]

I agree, should be cool. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif Still going to work with acrylic also, General?

The acrylic will be for anything that's not wood. So I'll have acrylic side panels, mounting brackets, and various plates for mounting switches and such. I got some design ideas from these Danger Den cases:

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=201&cat=1&page=1

[Ape-Shit]

Show us more GS.

[General Septem]

Show us more GS.

I'm going into the shop now, I'll have more later today. :D

[freakazoid]

The acrylic will be for anything that's not wood. So I'll have acrylic side panels, mounting brackets, and various plates for mounting switches and such. I got some design ideas from these Danger Den cases:

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=201&cat=1&page=1
Way cool http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif...still going with water cooling or the other medthods? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon5.gif

Foot note: OK, wiseguy...Ha ha! We want to see a custom built laptop case when you're done!! :D

[MrBirdy]

This is gonna be interesting, a little covert project, cool dude, i hope it all goes well, the only thing that concerns me is this "what about ventilation, wont that heat up like a son of a bitch?"

[General Septem]

I got some more work done on the case today, so here goes.

I finished dimensioning the rest of the stock. Here it is:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1793.jpg

Apply yellow glue (I used Titebond III) to all mating edges and spread with a brush. I like to apply glue to both surfaces to ensure good coverage, and because that's how David Marks does it.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1796.jpg

And all glued up:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1799.jpg

Add clamps and let it cook:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1804.jpg

I practice the Norm Abram school of gluing. XD This next pic is very large, 2048x1536:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1809.jpg

I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to get downstairs next. Next time I'm in the shop I will scrape the glue off, and either plane or sand the boards to thickness. Then cut the panels to length and begin to cut the dovetails on the ends.


Way cool...still going with water cooling or the other medthods?

I'd love to have enough money to make a decisive decision. The case is going to be huge, so installing watercooling will not be a problem at all. Eventually I want to have watercooling for the CPU and a TEC plate underneath the waterblock. In the mean time I may get myself a good air cooler like a Thermalright SI-120.


This is gonna be interesting, a little covert project, cool dude, i hope it all goes well, the only thing that concerns me is this "what about ventilation, wont that heat up like a son of a bitch?"

Well, once it's all together I will have to cut and drill various holes and whatnot so I can mount fans, not to mention all the components. I plan to overclock this CPU to 3GHz if possible, so cooling is pretty much foremost on my mind.

[freakazoid]

Its looking good, General. Looks like you are well on your way. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif Totally cool.

RE: "I'd love to have enough money to make a decisive decision. The case is going to be huge, so installing watercooling will not be a problem at all. Eventually I want to have watercooling for the CPU and a TEC plate underneath the waterblock. In the mean time I may get myself a good air cooler like a Thermalright SI-120."


It can get a bit expensive. Hey, here is an idea...market your custom cases online, maybe on eBay? Built to customer requirements and specs? Could be some money there.

How much money in raw material do you have in the project so far?

[freakazoid]

GS, how goes the project? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[General Septem]

RE: "I'd love to have enough money to make a decisive decision. The case is going to be huge, so installing watercooling will not be a problem at all. Eventually I want to have watercooling for the CPU and a TEC plate underneath the waterblock. In the mean time I may get myself a good air cooler like a Thermalright SI-120."


It can get a bit expensive. Hey, here is an idea...market your custom cases online, maybe on eBay? Built to customer requirements and specs? Could be some money there.

How much money in raw material do you have in the project so far?

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't see this when I looked yesterday as I only get notified when a new post is made.

Actually my dad is going to help me start a small educational business within the next year or so. When I do so I'll probably do a variety of woodworking related things such as electric lutherie, refinishing, small to medium-sized handmade items and maybe some custom woodworking. I imagine computer cases would be something I could do very easily.

I'd bet I could do a good watercooling system for a couple hundred dollars though. I only want to cool the CPU; the video card I can get a good air cooler for if I want. I haven't really done any GPU overclocking. All I know is they run very hot and the extra heat would affect CPU overclocking.

TECs have their disadvantages too. If the temps drop too much below ambient, condensation will form and probably fry everything. Of course if the CPU's too cold there's always the option of overclocking it a little more to keep temps up. :D

How much raw materials have I put in it so far... good question. Probably a dollar's worth of glue so far. As for the wood, I ended up using three or four six-foot lengths of walnut, but I used wood we already had. When we bought the walnut, we bought it in bulk. I think we got either a hundred or two hundred board feet, all rough sawn, I think 5/4. I'm going to say I've probably used under $50 worth of wood altogether, so far. But the only wood I'll need now is some accent wood and some cheap wood (like poplar) for some of the boards that nobody's ever going to see.

The acrylic glass wasn't cheap either. I forget how much that was, but probably another $50, probably a little under. Altogether maybe I've spent a hundred or less. I wish I'd kept track though because that'd be interesting to know, especially if I'm going to sell any.

[freakazoid]

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't see this when I looked yesterday as I only get notified when a new post is made.

Actually my dad is going to help me start a small educational business within the next year or so. When I do so I'll probably do a variety of woodworking related things such as electric lutherie, refinishing, small to medium-sized handmade items and maybe some custom woodworking. I imagine computer cases would be something I could do very easily.

I'd bet I could do a good watercooling system for a couple hundred dollars though. I only want to cool the CPU; the video card I can get a good air cooler for if I want. I haven't really done any GPU overclocking. All I know is they run very hot and the extra heat would affect CPU overclocking.

TECs have their disadvantages too. If the temps drop too much below ambient, condensation will form and probably fry everything. Of course if the CPU's too cold there's always the option of overclocking it a little more to keep temps up. :D

How much raw materials have I put in it so far... good question. Probably a dollar's worth of glue so far. As for the wood, I ended up using three or four six-foot lengths of walnut, but I used wood we already had. When we bought the walnut, we bought it in bulk. I think we got either a hundred or two hundred board feet, all rough sawn, I think 5/4. I'm going to say I've probably used under $50 worth of wood altogether, so far. But the only wood I'll need now is some accent wood and some cheap wood (like poplar) for some of the boards that nobody's ever going to see.

The acrylic glass wasn't cheap either. I forget how much that was, but probably another $50, probably a little under. Altogether maybe I've spent a hundred or less. I wish I'd kept track though because that'd be interesting to know, especially if I'm going to sell any.

Sounds cool. What are you going to finish it with? Wood stain, etc.?

[General Septem]

Sounds cool. What are you going to finish it with? Wood stain, etc.?

I don't generally like staining or dying because I like the natural color of the wood. I may use a stain before I finish it, but when I do finish it I think I'll use danish oil or maybe some Arm-R-Seal, which is what David Marks is refering to when he uses what he calls "Tung Oil'. I used Danish oil on my guitar though and I like how it turned out. Maybe I'll finish the inside with a satin polyurethane or something that will hold up well and clean relatively easily.

[freakazoid]

I don't generally like staining or dying because I like the natural color of the wood. I may use a stain before I finish it, but when I do finish it I think I'll use danish oil or maybe some Arm-R-Seal, which is what David Marks is refering to when he uses what he calls "Tung Oil'. I used Danish oil on my guitar though and I like how it turned out. Maybe I'll finish the inside with a satin polyurethane or something that will hold up well and clean relatively easily.

Way cool, looking forward to seeing how it come out. Fluorescence lights going to be installed in it? :D

[General Septem]

Way cool, looking forward to seeing how it come out. Fluorescence lights going to be installed in it? :D

I'm not sure about fluorescent light but I do plan to have some form of lighting. Currently I'm thinking about a silvery violet color scheme. Sunbeam has (or had since it's no longer on performance-pcs) a "lightbus" that allows you to control your lights. I guess what you would do is organize your lights into different zones and control them from this lightbus.

But the really cool thing about it was that you could choose between several lighting effects. You can even hook up a plug to your sound card and have your sound system control the lights. That means when you're watching a movie with big explosions, you'll see the lights flicker in tandem with the bangs, and when you're playing a game, the lights flicker in tandem with your machine gun. :D

I've been told to stay away from LED fans, though, because as a general rule these are outperformed by fans that were built as fans and not lightshows. However there is a way of modding a good fan by drilling holes in each corner and gluing an LED into it. You can even remove the fan blades and spray paint them with chrome so it reflects the light. The trouble is finding the right resistor, which if you know what you're doing isn't much trouble at all. Which I don't. But I do hope to take an electrical engineering/electronics course in January.

Once I get a waterblock on this I'll probably take advantage of the posts sticking up to somehow mount a 120mm fan blowing down on the PWM and RAM area, and for that I may get an LED fan just because I wouldn't need much airflow anyway.

[freakazoid]

I'm not sure about fluorescent light but I do plan to have some form of lighting. Currently I'm thinking about a silvery violet color scheme. Sunbeam has (or had since it's no longer on performance-pcs) a "lightbus" that allows you to control your lights. I guess what you would do is organize your lights into different zones and control them from this lightbus.

But the really cool thing about it was that you could choose between several lighting effects. You can even hook up a plug to your sound card and have your sound system control the lights. That means when you're watching a movie with big explosions, you'll see the lights flicker in tandem with the bangs, and when you're playing a game, the lights flicker in tandem with your machine gun. :D

I've been told to stay away from LED fans, though, because as a general rule these are outperformed by fans that were built as fans and not lightshows. However there is a way of modding a good fan by drilling holes in each corner and gluing an LED into it. You can even remove the fan blades and spray paint them with chrome so it reflects the light. The trouble is finding the right resistor, which if you know what you're doing isn't much trouble at all. Which I don't. But I do hope to take an electrical engineering/electronics course in January.

Once I get a waterblock on this I'll probably take advantage of the posts sticking up to somehow mount a 120mm fan blowing down on the PWM and RAM area, and for that I may get an LED fan just because I wouldn't need much airflow anyway.

Shit! I love it all, mang. The "You can even hook up a plug to your sound card and have your sound system control the lights." sounds way cool. Ha ha, I gotta try it! :D I think the first part of the new year I am going with an acrylic cube with blue lighting.

[General Septem]

Shit! I love it all, mang. The "You can even hook up a plug to your sound card and have your sound system control the lights." sounds way cool. Ha ha, I gotta try it! :D I think the first part of the new year I am going with an acrylic cube with blue lighting.

Cool, are you building or buying?

[freakazoid]

Cool, are you building or buying?
I think buying, I like this one...

http://www.cubedpc.com/images/steves_computer/newestpics/IMG_2498.jpg (http://www.cubedpc.com)

http://www.cubedpc.com/

:D

[General Septem]

I think buying, I like this one...

http://www.cubedpc.com/images/steves_computer/newestpics/IMG_2498.jpg (http://www.cubedpc.com)

http://www.cubedpc.com/

:D

Pretty nice, but there's no soul in a bought case :D

Haha I'm kidding. That case is pretty awesome. The layout is well thought-out to maximize on the space. Do you carry it around a lot?

[freakazoid]

Pretty nice, but there's no soul in a bought case :D

Haha I'm kidding. That case is pretty awesome. The layout is well thought-out to maximize on the space. Do you carry it around a lot?
Ha ha, yeah, I'm just too damn lazy to build my own, BUT, SHIT! :eek:...I might have to. I just read this on their website...

Latest News:
We have sold the last remaining cases and have shutdown our operations here at CubedPC. At this time we have no plans to build more cases as both of us here at CubedPC have graduated from college last semester and are pursing careers in other fields.
It has been a lot of fun designing and building these cases, and we hope to produce restart production of cases within a year.



No, I don't move my PC much. So I'm not too worried about how easy it is to transport.

[General Septem]

Ha ha, yeah, I'm just too damn lazy to build my own, BUT, SHIT! :eek:...I might have to. I just read this on their website...

Latest News:
We have sold the last remaining cases and have shutdown our operations here at CubedPC. At this time we have no plans to build more cases as both of us here at CubedPC have graduated from college last semester and are pursing careers in other fields.
It has been a lot of fun designing and building these cases, and we hope to produce restart production of cases within a year.



No, I don't move my PC much. So I'm not too worried about how easy it is to transport.

I don't know what tools you have, but you might just want to give building a try. It's something you can do on the weekends, and it's very enjoyable so far. Give it a thought. :D

[freakazoid]

I don't know what tools you have, but you might just want to give building a try. It's something you can do on the weekends, and it's very enjoyable so far. Give it a thought. :D

I might just do that, I have a few tools and some work area in my garage I can work at. Not too sure about cutting acrylic though. Will have to read up on it. I think you can have problems with surface melting if you don't do it right? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon5.gif

[General Septem]

I might just do that, I have a few tools and some work area in my garage I can work at. Not too sure about cutting acrylic though. Will have to read up on it. I think you can have problems with surface melting if you don't do it right? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon5.gif

It can melt, but I'm not sure what could cause that to happen. You can cut it with a table saw or bandsaw, but be sure to use a backer board or it'll split out the bottom. I've also heard of using dremels and routers. To finish the edge you actually want to melt it just a little with a torch. Not so much that it deforms, but just so that a small layer of the edge melts and fills in the microscopic voids. This will give you a polished edge. I've never worked with the stuff myself, though.

Check this website out: http://case-mods.linear1.org/category/acrylic/

[freakazoid]

It can melt, but I'm not sure what could cause that to happen. You can cut it with a table saw or bandsaw, but be sure to use a backer board or it'll split out the bottom. I've also heard of using dremels and routers. To finish the edge you actually want to melt it just a little with a torch. Not so much that it deforms, but just so that a small layer of the edge melts and fills in the microscopic voids. This will give you a polished edge. I've never worked with the stuff myself, though.

Check this website out: http://case-mods.linear1.org/category/acrylic/

Hey cool, will check that out closely. Yeah, using a backer board is a trick I have used before, like cutting through a sandwich. Well, I might just go for it. Will be researching the details between now and when I go for it. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[General Septem]

Hey cool, will check that out closely. Yeah, using a backer board is a trick I have used before, like cutting through a sandwich. Well, I might just go for it. Will be researching the details between now and when I go for it. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Another trick is to bend the acrylic instead of cutting sheets for everything. You just need a heater strip and some kind of jig for clamping.

[freakazoid]

Another trick is to bend the acrylic instead of cutting sheets for everything. You just need a heater strip and some kind of jig for clamping.

Hmmm, that is a option for sure. Would make for clean rounded corners. Good idea, General http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Nobody]

Try an aluminum brake, and a heat gun. For tha sake of experimention. Who knows?

[General Septem]

Try an aluminum brake, and a heat gun. For tha sake of experimention. Who knows?

The only problem I'd see with a heat gun is that it might heat the acrylic unevenly. It's worth a shot though.

Sorry I haven't had any updates recently. I've actually been working all week as a new cashier at BJ's Wholesale Club. I have today and tomorrow off though so I may be able to get into the shop tomorrow or Saturday.

[freakazoid]

Try an aluminum brake, and a heat gun. For tha sake of experimention. Who knows?

Hmmmmmm, Might try that. Cool http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[freakazoid]

The only problem I'd see with a heat gun is that it might heat the acrylic unevenly. It's worth a shot though.

Sorry I haven't had any updates recently. I've actually been working all week as a new cashier at BJ's Wholesale Club. I have today and tomorrow off though so I may be able to get into the shop tomorrow or Saturday.

Cool, updates to come :D

[General Septem]

Check out this guy's water blocks:

http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2006/04/25/project_log_update/2.html

I guess I'm going to be making my own waterblock then. :D

[freakazoid]

Check out this guy's water blocks:

http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2006/04/25/project_log_update/2.html

I guess I'm going to be making my own waterblock then. :D
Wow, that sure makes his motherboard look wild. Cool. :D

[Ape-Shit]

Hey GS, looking forward on your progress report. Re the Abrams glue job, have you ever used biscuts with a little less glue? Just asking, thats all.:)




ps: Norm would be proud.

[General Septem]

Hey GS, looking forward on your progress report. Re the Abrams glue job, have you ever used biscuts with a little less glue? Just asking, thats all.:)




ps: Norm would be proud.

Haha thanks :D

I could have used biscuits, but what can sometimes happen with biscuits is they'll dry out and leave a small impression in the surface of the piece. I didn't think it was necessary because I didn't really need all the pieces to be perfectly flush; they're pretty thick as it is so I'll just plane them flush.

What I should've done however was clean the glue up with a wet rag, because that shit is nearly impossible to get off with anything short of a belt sander, which is what I used until the belt broke. :D

[General Septem]

Wow, that sure makes his motherboard look wild. Cool. :D

Yeah, those blocks are awesome, and not hard to make. I'm definitely making one when the case is done. :D

[freakazoid]

Yeah, those blocks are awesome, and not hard to make. I'm definitely making one when the case is done. :D

Make two and sell one online? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon3.gif:Dhttp://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon3.gif eBay man! Bet it would sell.

[General Septem]

Make two and sell one online? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon3.gif:Dhttp://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon3.gif eBay man! Bet it would sell.

I bet it would. Those things go for $50+ too, the Danger Den TDX is like $57. I'll bet I could sell one for a hundred if it looks cool enough though. It's certainly not unreasonable for a waterblock. :D

[freakazoid]

I bet it would. Those things go for $50+ too, the Danger Den TDX is like $57. I'll bet I could sell one for a hundred if it looks cool enough though. It's certainly not unreasonable for a waterblock. :D
Cool, the making of a new industrial empire! :D

[General Septem]

Cool, the making of a new industrial empire! :D

Hey, there's something I could add to my business! Awesome. :D

[freakazoid]

Hey, there's something I could add to my business! Awesome. :D

Custom Computer Accessories by the General? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon3.gifhttp://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[General Septem]

Custom Computer Accessories by the General? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon3.gifhttp://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
It's a thought, but I plan to make things besides computer accessories. If I get enough business from just computer accessories I might not need to expand further than that at present though. :D

You can actually make waterblocks out of silver too. I might make a few of these and sell them for ridiculous prices. :D

[freakazoid]

It's a thought, but I plan to make things besides computer accessories. If I get enough business from just computer accessories I might not need to expand further than that at present though. :D

You can actually make waterblocks out of silver too. I might make a few of these and sell them for ridiculous prices. :D

Wow, silver? Cool, what is the advantage? Better heat sinking? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon5.gif

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Wow, silver? Cool, what is the advantage? Better heat sinking? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon5.gif


If nothing else, just more valuable material. People will pay more for silver than for aluminum.

[General Septem]

Wow, silver? Cool, what is the advantage? Better heat sinking? http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon5.gif

I'm not sure if it conducts heat better than copper or what, but I know copper and silver are the two most common materials used in higher-end CPU waterblocks. Aluminium can be used, but it's not as good as copper so it's not very common from what I've seen.

I would just sell silver blocks because people will buy them. :D

[freakazoid]

If nothing else, just more valuable material. People will pay more for silver than for aluminum.

Capitalism...I love it! Way cool...http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[freakazoid]

I'm not sure if it conducts heat better than copper or what, but I know copper and silver are the two most common materials used in higher-end CPU waterblocks. Aluminium can be used, but it's not as good as copper so it's not very common from what I've seen.

I would just sell silver blocks because people will buy them. :D

...because people will buy them...That is a good of a reason as any...:D

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Capitalism...I love it! Way cool...


...because people will buy them...That is a good of a reason as any...:D

Damn straight! It's all about the money! :D

[freakazoid]

Damn straight! It's all about the money! :D

And an overclocked CPU!! :D

[Ape-Shit]

Ok Dude...! Show us some more....!:D

[General Septem]

I've been working so I haven't been able to work on the case much lately. But here's somewhat of an update, if you insist. :D

The other day I went downstairs to get the glue off the panels. That was a pain. It was enough of a pain trying to get it off with a belt sander, but then the belt broke and I had to resort to hand tools.

You have to get the glue off before you put the piece through the planer, because it's not good for the blades. I was down there for a good hour and got half of it done before the belt broke, and I was down there for another two hours with hand tools and I'm still not finished. Cleaning it up with a wet rag would've taken a few seconds. I would've done so but I thought the glue wuld just come right off. Once I have the glue off I'll plane the boards to thickness and cut them to length. Then I'll probably make a bottom board out of poplar, and then it'll be time to cut the dovetails, as well as all the major holes I'll need for the back plate and PSU.

I'll probably bring it upstairs before I glue it, because it will be heavy. Then as I make the motherboard tray and such, I'll put it together up here.

[freakazoid]

I've been working so I haven't been able to work on the case much lately. But here's somewhat of an update, if you insist. :D

The other day I went downstairs to get the glue off the panels. That was a pain. It was enough of a pain trying to get it off with a belt sander, but then the belt broke and I had to resort to hand tools.

You have to get the glue off before you put the piece through the planer, because it's not good for the blades. I was down there for a good hour and got half of it done before the belt broke, and I was down there for another two hours with hand tools and I'm still not finished. Cleaning it up with a wet rag would've taken a few seconds. I would've done so but I thought the glue wuld just come right off. Once I have the glue off I'll plane the boards to thickness and cut them to length. Then I'll probably make a bottom board out of poplar, and then it'll be time to cut the dovetails, as well as all the major holes I'll need for the back plate and PSU.

I'll probably bring it upstairs before I glue it, because it will be heavy. Then as I make the motherboard tray and such, I'll put it together up here.

Never give up, never surrender! http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif OK, we want pictures and further progress reports. :D

[Ape-Shit]

Ok GS, where is it?

[freakazoid]

Ok GS, where is it?

Yeah man, we are expecting updates here with photos. You have your public to consider. :D

[General Septem]

I haven't gotten a chance, I've been working eight hour days to help get the store ready for opening tomorrow. :p

I have Christmas Eve through next Wednesday off though so I might be able to get some work done. :D

[Ape-Shit]

[quote=General Septem]I haven't gotten a chance, I've been working eight hour days to help get the store ready for opening tomorrow. :p

Looks like it will be next year before we see anything. Oh Well, tis Christmas. I guess its ok for now. We will look forward to it next year.:D

[Ape-Shit]

Ok Dude.....,'tis 'bout time to get back into the shape of things. You can't start something and not finish it (unless your name is Bush of course) can you?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see the finished project. Well, how about it......?:D

[General Septem]

Ok Dude.....,'tis 'bout time to get back into the shape of things. You can't start something and not finish it (unless your name is Bush of course) can you?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see the finished project. Well, how about it......?:D

You aren't the only one. I just haven't been able to get into the shop since I started working. :D

[freakazoid]

You aren't the only one. I just haven't been able to get into the shop since I started working. :D

Hey dude, looking forward to seeing the finished product. :D Hell, I might order one from you...:D

[General Septem]

Last time, I glued up the panels and let them dry. I went back into the shop a while later to scrape the glue off of these panels, only to find that the glue dried so incredibly hard that I couldn't get them clean with anything other than a belt sander. Well that belt broke and I didn't get back into the shop for weeks after.

Well I got a new belt and finished removing all that glue squeeze-out, and I was ready to run the boards through the planer. If I had run them through the planer with beads of glue sticking up, I would've torn the knives up.

The planer leaves a real nice finish, and it also has a setting that lowers the feed speed of the rollers, allowing the blade to make twice the cuts per inch and leaving an even smoother finish. Unfortunately there was some kind of grain of sand or rock embedded in one of the panels (the wood must have grown around it). It was about the size of a grain of table salt, but it made a big nick in the blades. Not a big deal though; the cutter head has three blades, and if you slide one of these blades to the side, the nicks in each blade will overlap and still leave a smooth finish.

That's what I got done today. I also decided which boards go on which side, which side faces out and so on. Some of these boards had some defect as you'll see, and I decided that orienting them in a certain way will give the best chance of hiding these defects. I also took the time to write on each board all the cuts that need to be made on each one. I'll take care of that probably tomorrow.

And now for the pics (click for larger):

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1844.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1844.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1843.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1843.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1841.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1841.jpg)

[hitekredneck]

Last time, I glued up the panels and let them dry. I went back into the shop a while later to scrape the glue off of these panels, only to find that the glue dried so incredibly hard that I couldn't get them clean with anything other than a belt sander. Well that belt broke and I didn't get back into the shop for weeks after.

Well I got a new belt and finished removing all that glue squeeze-out, and I was ready to run the boards through the planer. If I had run them through the planer with beads of glue sticking up, I would've torn the knives up.

The planer leaves a real nice finish, and it also has a setting that lowers the feed speed of the rollers, allowing the blade to make twice the cuts per inch and leaving an even smoother finish. Unfortunately there was some kind of grain of sand or rock embedded in one of the panels (the wood must have grown around it). It was about the size of a grain of table salt, but it made a big nick in the blades. Not a big deal though; the cutter head has three blades, and if you slide one of these blades to the side, the nicks in each blade will overlap and still leave a smooth finish.

That's what I got done today. I also decided which boards go on which side, which side faces out and so on. Some of these boards had some defect as you'll see, and I decided that orienting them in a certain way will give the best chance of hiding these defects. I also took the time to write on each board all the cuts that need to be made on each one. I'll take care of that probably tomorrow.

And now for the pics (click for larger):

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1844.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1844.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1843.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1843.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1841.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1841.jpg)

hey gen, what are you gonna use for cpu, mobo, etc?...i'ld like to see the configuration...might copy it if ya don't mind :D

[General Septem]

hey gen, what are you gonna use for cpu, mobo, etc?...i'ld like to see the configuration...might copy it if ya don't mind :D

I'm using the system in my sig. Right now I actually haven't got a case for it, it's just sitting on my desk. If you're going to build a brand new system though, I'd recommend the new Core 2 Duo. My system does perform really well though, and with the R600 I plan to buy when it's released, it won't have a prehistoric graphics card either. :D

[hitekredneck]

I'm using the system in my sig. Right now I actually haven't got a case for it, it's just sitting on my desk. If you're going to build a brand new system though, I'd recommend the new Core 2 Duo. My system does perform really well though, and with the R600 I plan to buy when it's released, it won't have a prehistoric graphics card either. :D

surprised you don't have more ram, gen...the rest sounds pretty hot...i know amd's the best for overclocking, everytime i tried it with pentiums, they melted :D first one i succeeded withwas an amd 233 i got up to 500...god, i feel so old :rolleyes:
why aren't ya goin with amobo with better fsb speeds?

[starry123nights]

Now that you have more time on your hands. I want to see more. Pretty freakin awesome looking for right now. Finish please.

[General Septem]

surprised you don't have more ram, gen...the rest sounds pretty hot...i know amd's the best for overclocking, everytime i tried it with pentiums, they melted :D first one i succeeded withwas an amd 233 i got up to 500...god, i feel so old :rolleyes:
why aren't ya goin with amobo with better fsb speeds?

Yeah, I've been wanting to upgrade to 2GB, but 1GB has been fine so far. My weak link right now is the video card, it's almost 4-5 years old by now, but I'm upgrading to the Radeon R600 when it comes out late March.

Actually every Socket 939 motherboard has an FSB of 200MHz stock. But the DFI LanParty overclocks better than pretty much any other s939 board out there. I don't think I could've gotten the FSB all the way up to 312 MHz with an ASUS or Gigabyte board, but it's possible. They're great motherboards too, but the DFI LanParty series boards are pretty much universally recognized as the best s939 boards you can get. :D

[General Septem]

Now that you have more time on your hands. I want to see more. Pretty freakin awesome looking for right now. Finish please.

We'll see, I'm going to get some work done today hopefully. :D

[Ape-Shit]

'Bout Freek'n Time....!:p

[General Septem]

Today I got all the panels cut to length and began cutting the pins for the half-blind dovetails on the ends of the panels. Again, the top and side panels will all have pins; they will be joined by a corner piece which will hold the sockets for the pins of both panels.

The process for cutting the pins is simple. Set the fence to where you need it, make your cut, flip the board around, make the second cut, flip the board end-for-end, make your third cut, and flip the board again for your final cut, and then repeat the process for the other boards. Then reset the fence for your next series of cuts. Doing it this way ensures that all boards will be symmetrical and consistent. I supported the piece by using a sled that rides along the fence.

And now, the pic (click for larger):

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1847.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1847.jpg)

[starry123nights]

wtg general....I'm really liking it. Make sure you take a pic and show us the final product. I swear you could sell this.

[General Septem]

wtg general....I'm really liking it. Make sure you take a pic and show us the final product. I swear you could sell this.

Thanks :D

I might end up making a few more of these and selling them too. I'll definitely keep up tracking progress too.

[General Septem]

I finished the dovetail pins:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1870.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1870.jpg)

Next job is to get myself some wenge, cocobolo, ebony, or some other accenting wood for the corner pieces. I'm not going to find anything 12" wide at a reasonable price, so I'll probably have to get 4" or 6" boards and glue them together side-by-side.

[beelzebub]

next job is to get myself some wenge, cocobolo, ebony, or some other accenting wood for the corner pieces. I'm not going to find anything 12" wide at a reasonable price, so I'll probably have to get 4" or 6" boards and glue them together side-by-side.

Why dont you just stain the wood those colors. The woods you mentioned are from the tropical rainforests of S America ..... which are endangered.

[General Septem]

Why dont you just stain the wood those colors. The woods you mentioned are from the tropical rainforests of S America ..... which are endangered.

Well, because first of all, no stain can make any wood look like wenge (which I ended up going with), because it's not just the color but the grain pattern that's unique about it. I don't like stains anyway because they never look natural to me. Second, it's only ever really used in small quantities as accent pieces. Any more than that would be too expensive. Third, some of these trees have just fallen down and were salvaged instead of being left to rot.

Woodworkers who are true artists care about the trees. We're not the same as the big companies that do anything to make money. That's why nobody ever uses fresh redwood anymore; it's always salvaged from big wine barrels and such.

Our capacity as humans to destroy often overshadows our ability to save, but that ability still exists. In the midst of all the big companies that would burn acres of rainforest down, there are also people who care and are making a difference - for instance, there is at least one farm which is dedicated to repopulating the species of Elm which were all but destroyed when the Dutch Elm disease hit.

My actions alone aren't going to make any difference anyway. Unless there's some kind of collective agreement that we're all going to work together to stop cutting down a certain species of tree, I'm not really going to worry about it. Expecting everyone to just stop doing whatever it is they're doing for whatever cause never works.

Don't get me wrong, though, it's a valid concern. It just doesn't seem to be as much of a concern amongst people in the field as, for instance, redwood, which I'd probably never buy if it wasn't reclaimed.

Also wenge I believe is from Africa.

[hitekredneck]

I finished the dovetail pins:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1870.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1870.jpg)

Next job is to get myself some wenge, cocobolo, ebony, or some other accenting wood for the corner pieces. I'm not going to find anything 12" wide at a reasonable price, so I'll probably have to get 4" or 6" boards and glue them together side-by-side.

bitchin case, gen...keep it up...how long til completion?:confused:

[General Septem]

bitchin case, gen...keep it up...how long til completion?:confused:

Thanks :D

I'm not sure really. But I'm enjoying the process which is what's important. :D

[Nobody]

I finished the dovetail pins:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1870.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1870.jpg)

Next job is to get myself some wenge, cocobolo, ebony, or some other accenting wood for the corner pieces. I'm not going to find anything 12" wide at a reasonable price, so I'll probably have to get 4" or 6" boards and glue them together side-by-side.
....what is it that your looking for at a 12" width? I have acess to new milled lumber. Me and mine have a saw mill. I haul onions, during the warm season, to the onion sheds N.Y. If your in a close proxsemity of these sheds and you need a couple boards, then bring a pickup and take them home on me. but if you want quantity, tell me your wants, and I can deliver on the way with my produce. Tell me what side of the state you live on, maybe I can help.

[General Septem]

....what is it that your looking for at a 12" width? I have acess to new milled lumber. Me and mine have a saw mill. I haul onions, during the warm season, to the onion sheds N.Y. If your in a close proxsemity of these sheds and you need a couple boards, then bring a pickup and take them home on me. but if you want quantity, tell me your wants, and I can deliver on the way with my produce. Tell me what side of the state you live on, maybe I can help.

Thanks, but I don't need that much of it and I actually already bought a small piece that will work well. It's called wenge, an exotic wood from Africa similar to ebony but with a coarser, more distinctive grain. David Marks uses a lot of it. :D

What kinds of lumber do you have though?

[Nobody]

Thanks, but I don't need that much of it and I actually already bought a small piece that will work well. It's called wenge, an exotic wood from Africa similar to ebony but with a coarser, more distinctive grain. David Marks uses a lot of it. :D

What kinds of lumber do you have though?

....red & white oak, tight bark & shagg bark hickory, ash, wild cherry, walnut, poplar, sassafrass, red& white elm, red & white pine, larch, sycamore, wellow locust. Theres others, but I can't think of them right off.... I collect pocket knives, that have exotic south american wood handles,but never heard of wenge. What type of grain pattern does it have?

[General Septem]

....red & white oak, tight bark & shagg bark hickory, ash, wild cherry, walnut, poplar, sassafrass, red& white elm, red & white pine, larch, sycamore, wellow locust. Theres others, but I can't think of them right off.... I collect pocket knives, that have exotic south american wood handles,but never heard of wenge. What type of grain pattern does it have?

Cool, do you do any woodturning?

It's a darker wood with a tight grain, which heavily contrasts the heartwood, and looks almost striped. You can find a bunch of pictures of it on Google image search, but here are a few:

http://www.hardwoodfloorstore.co.uk/worktops/images/wenge_alt_2.jpg
http://www.bath1959.com/productImages/rr_panel_sapporo_wenge.JPG
http://www.bauwerk-parkett.com/bilder/holz/wenge.jpg

[beelzebub]

I understand that you feel that use of exotic woods has minimal environmental impact and demonstrates a love of the material. I know that you think that these woods make an artistic case. I feel; nonetheless, that you could do the same thing with woods that are NOT endangered and that are easily replaced. I don’t care that you feel staining is inferior. You don’t seem to care that you are supporting the mass extinction of the product you love.

Your reluctance to do what is right is environmentally and ethically irresponsible.

[General Septem]

I understand that you feel that use of exotic woods has minimal environmental impact and demonstrates a love of the material. I know that you think that these woods make an artistic case. I feel; nonetheless, that you could do the same thing with woods that are NOT endangered and that are easily replaced. I don’t care that you feel staining is inferior. You don’t seem to care that you are supporting the mass extinction of the product you love.

Your reluctance to do what is right is environmentally and ethically irresponsible.

See, you're pro-life, whereas I support the woodworker's right to choose. :D

[beelzebub]

See, you're pro-life, whereas I support the woodworker's right to choose. :D

How pathetic are you? You deflect my charge with insignificant and erroneous claims. This position belies your nefarious and baseless motives.

[General Septem]

It's good enough for David Marks, so it's good enough for me. Don't hijack my thread.

[beelzebub]

It's good enough for David Marks, so it's good enough for me. Don't hijack my thread.

You own this thread? Foolish child! I will show you how little you own!

Answer my question or we will have a an issue.

[General Septem]

You own this thread? Foolish child! I will show you how little you own!

Answer my question or we will have a an issue.

I don't own the thread, but I started it, and it is my worklog. You can start another thread if you want to discuss endangered species of tree.

What's your question?

[beelzebub]

An endangered species is a population of an organism (usually a taxonomic species, but may be another ESU), which is at risk of becoming extinct because it is either (a) few in number or (b) threatened by changing environmental or predation parameters. The IUCN has calculated the percentage of endangered species as 40 percent of all organisms based on the sample of species that have been evaluated through 2006.[1] (Note: the IUCN groups all threatened spcies for their summary purposes.) Many nations have laws offering protection to these species: for example, forbidding hunting, restricting land development or creating preserves. Only a few of the many species at risk of extinction actually make it to the lists and obtain legal protection. Many more species become extinct, or potentially will become extinct, without gaining public notice.

[beelzebub]

The high rate at which species have become extinct within the last 150 years is a cause of concern. While species have evolved and become extinct on a regular basis for the last several hundred million years, recent rates of extinction are many times higher than the typical historical values. Significantly, the rate of species extinctions at present is estimated at 100 to 1000 times "background" or average extinction rates in the evolutionary time scale of planet Earth;[2] moreover, this current rate of extinction is thus 10 to 100 times greater than any of the prior mass extinction events in the history of the Earth. If this rate of extinction continues or accelerates, the number of species becoming extinct in the next decade could number in the millions[3]. While most people readily relate to endangerment of large mammals or birdlife, some of the greatest ecological issues are the threats to stability of whole ecosystems if key species vanish at any level of the food chain.

[General Septem]

So what question was it that you wanted me to answer?

[beelzebub]

Do you feel that because you use just a little endangered species and because you love them do you feel that it justifies commercial use of them?

Do you feel that its ok for you to use them?

If you wanted to use ivory would it be ok because you use just a little and love the ivory that you use?

[General Septem]

Do you feel that because you use just a little endangered species and because you love them do you feel that it justifies commercial use of them?

No, but they're not being commercially used. Big production companies don't use expensive woods like ebony.


Do you feel that its ok for you to use them?

Yes.


If you wanted to use ivory would it be ok because you use just a little and love the ivory that you use?

I do use ivory on occasion. It's reclaimed from old piano keys. That's about all you can even do since it's illegal to import. But if an elephant with tusks just happened to die of old age, I don't think there's anything wrong with using its ivory.

[Nobody]

I understand that you feel that use of exotic woods has minimal environmental impact and demonstrates a love of the material. I know that you think that these woods make an artistic case. I feel; nonetheless, that you could do the same thing with woods that are NOT endangered and that are easily replaced. I don’t care that you feel staining is inferior. You don’t seem to care that you are supporting the mass extinction of the product you love.

Your reluctance to do what is right is environmentally and ethically irresponsible.
....you know what you really should do is MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUISNESS, you god damned tree hugging MISCREANT!

[beelzebub]

No, but they're not being commercially used. Big production companies don't use expensive woods like ebony.

You don't know. In India & Africa ebony trees never reach full maturity because they are cut down to get the wood. In some parts of Africa the ebony tree has been so extensively milled that there aren't any more trees left. Little consumers like yourself have wiped it out. They are extant.


I do use ivory on occasion. It's reclaimed from old piano keys. That's about all you can even do since it's illegal to import. But if an elephant with tusks just happened to die of old age, I don't think there's anything wrong with using its ivory.

You have the right of course but I think that its sad to use Ivory in any shape or form. They don't collect dead elephant Ivory they hunt and kill elephants. Little consumers like you caused CITES to place the world wide ban on Ivory. Making trinkets out of an endangered species body is wrong. There are plenty of other options.

But...... its your choice. I love fine woods as well and I do other things that cause harm (I am sure) so I cannot sit in judgement of you or your actions. I just hate using or harming endangered species.

[beelzebub]

....you know what you really should do is MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUISNESS, you god damned tree hugging MISCREANT!

You know what you really should do is MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUISNESS, you god damned redneck retarded MISCREANT!

[General Septem]

You know what you really should do is MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUISNESS, you god damned redneck retarded MISCREANT!

He's not the one telling people what kind of wood to use.

[General Septem]

You don't know. In India & Africa ebony trees never reach full maturity because they are cut down to get the wood. In some parts of Africa the ebony tree has been so extensively milled that there aren't any more trees left. Little consumers like yourself have wiped it out. They are extant.

I'm not using ebony for this project. However when I do use ebony, I use Macassar Ebony, which is vulnerable (VU-A1cd to be exact) but not endangered. There are other species of ebony that are not considered to be threatened at all (Mozambique Ebony or African Blackwood for example). The species that are endangered or critically endangered, mainly the ones known only as Ebony, aren't even readily available anymore. You stop into the local Woodcraft and the only ebony you'll typically find is Macassar.


You have the right of course but I think that its sad to use Ivory in any shape or form. They don't collect dead elephant Ivory they hunt and kill elephants. Little consumers like you caused CITES to place the world wide ban on Ivory. Making trinkets out of an endangered species body is wrong. There are plenty of other options.

It's not wrong to use the materials on hand. What's wrong is hunting down and killing endangered elephants, and it's wrong to condone this action by getting the ivory on the black market. It's also wrong to throw out a perfectly good piece of ivory that was pulled off of an old piano key just because ivory nowadays is obtained through less than ethical means.


But...... its your choice. I love fine woods as well and I do other things that cause harm (I am sure) so I cannot sit in judgement of you or your actions. I just hate using or harming endangered species.

I appreciate your concern. In the future perhaps I will look into species of ebony that are even less endangered than Macassar.

[beelzebub]

He's not the one telling people what kind of wood to use.

You are the one who put it out there. Once you write about it on this forum it is fair game.

I didn't figure you for one that would advocate the censor of others.

[beelzebub]

It's not wrong to use the materials on hand. What's wrong is hunting down and killing endangered elephants, and it's wrong to condone this action by getting the ivory on the black market. It's also wrong to throw out a perfectly good piece of ivory that was pulled off of an old piano key just because ivory nowadays is obtained through less than ethical means.

I believe that it is wrong to use the materials as well. That is the fuel that drives the killing and hunting down of endangered species.

[General Septem]

I believe that it is wrong to use the materials as well. That is the fuel that drives the killing and hunting down of endangered species.

Well, the use of money also drives the killing of people for financial gain, but it's really greed that drives it all.

I don't advocate censorship, but I don't think it's anyone's business to judge me for using the wood I use. You said you weren't judging me, so allow me to reiterate that I appreciate your concern.

[beelzebub]

I don't advocate censorship, but I don't think it's anyone's business to judge me for using the wood I use. You said you weren't judging me, so allow me to reiterate that I appreciate your concern.

Très bon. Je comprends et aucun problème.

[General Septem]

I hope you're a fan of purpleheart because that is what I got to replace the wenge that broke. So now the top two corners will be purpleheart, and the bottom two corners will be wenge. With any luck I'll be able to cut the sockets for the dovetails tomorrow. :D

[freakazoid]

Well, the use of money also drives the killing of people for financial gain, but it's really greed that drives it all.

I don't advocate censorship, but I don't think it's anyone's business to judge me for using the wood I use. You said you weren't judging me, so allow me to reiterate that I appreciate your concern.

So, General, what's the latest on the awesome case, mang? :D

[Nobody]

You know what you really should do is MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUISNESS, you god damned redneck retarded MISCREANT!....I was minding my buisness, the same as if, GS and myself were standing on a street corner carring on the same conversation that we were having about wood, and you came along and started finger pointing to GS, about how he's fucking up ecology. Now. When you're involved in a three way conversation, do you only talk to one person in the treo?

[Nobody]

You know what you really should do is MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUISNESS, you god damned redneck retarded MISCREANT!....I got belligerent with you, I'm just not so shure that I'm sorry. To what I understand, ( you being an athiest), Why would you care about anything in life, after you're dead? All these, and the statement in my previous post, were compounded by lots of budweisers, that inhanced my demeaner. I'm not using that for a crutch. I'm this way 90% of the time I'm on here. Just some things are worth standing up for more than others.(some recent replys to different topics have already been dicussed) Thats why I give my little 2 cents worth and go on.

[Nobody]

Cool, do you do any woodturning?

It's a darker wood with a tight grain, which heavily contrasts the heartwood, and looks almost striped. You can find a bunch of pictures of it on Google image search, but here are a few:

http://www.hardwoodfloorstore.co.uk/worktops/images/wenge_alt_2.jpg
http://www.bath1959.com/productImages/rr_panel_sapporo_wenge.JPG
http://www.bauwerk-parkett.com/bilder/holz/wenge.jpg

....no lathe, however we do have an industrial planer. The only thing I know about it is it weighs a ton,we had to buy 3 knives for it, you"ve got to turn every board, and its 220 volt. We have people make orders that want plained lumber for furniture or cabinets just so they can store it (I guess untill Grampa can come and build it).

[General Septem]

....no lathe, however we do have an industrial planer. The only thing I know about it is it weighs a ton,we had to buy 3 knives for it, you"ve got to turn every board, and its 220 volt. We have people make orders that want plained lumber for furniture or cabinets just so they can store it (I guess untill Grampa can come and build it).

That's cool. Our planer has three knives too, I think most good ones do, but ours is a smaller one (13" wide) and runs on 110.

[General Septem]

Got some more work done today. I took the purpleheart I bought yesterday and cut the sockets/tails in them. Then I fitted them with a chisel and glued them together. The result:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1898.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1898.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1890.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1890.jpg)

[hitekredneck]

You know what you really should do is MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUISNESS, you god damned redneck retarded MISCREANT!

and what the hell is wrong with bein a redneck?:mad:
http://forum.bullshit.com/showthread.php?t=745
gen, keep up the good work...looks like it's coming along very nicely

[beelzebub]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1898.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1898.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1890.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1890.jpg)

Lord have mercy!

That linoleum went out of style in the 60's. I hope that this is a shop and not in your room!

The case looks big! What is the advantage of a wooden case over metal? I would think that the wood would insulate the heat the electronics generate. Isn't that a bad thing?

[General Septem]

Lord have mercy!

Thats linolium went out of style like in the 60's. I hope that this is a shop and not in your room!

The case looks big! What is the advantage of a wooden case over metal? I would think that the wood would insulate the heat the electronics generate. Isn't that a bad thing?

Yep, it's our shop. Actually the entire downstairs has that linoleum, I think it used to be a family room though. :D

There have been some discussions regarding the heat capacity of different case metals over others, and there are cases here and there that are designed to double as heat sinks, but the general consensus is that any differences in temperature between two case materials would be at best a degree or two, and if you have proper case flow it really doesn't make any difference at all.

For example, computer cases, even metal ones, don't really get very hot even if the exhaust fans are blowing warm air. In fact, blowing warm air out of your case is a good sign that your airflow could be better. I had a computer that I didn't realize was overheating on a regular basis. The air coming out of the one working fan (which was barely working at that) was warm but the case was pretty much cool.

The benefit of wood over other materials is basically the look (or at least the look I'm going for), and in my case the workability since I don't have metal working tools. I see a lot of great case mods, and while case modding is something anyone can do, the really professional looking mods are done with all the right tools. I don't have metal working tools, so I can make wood look better with the tools we have, than I can make metal look with a Dremel and sanding wheels.

Thanks for the interest everyone. :D

[starry123nights]

Awaiting your final results general. I like it.

[General Septem]

And here's what the dovetails look like with all the waste trimmed and sanded flush:


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1904.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1904.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1902.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1902.jpg)

I used a little bit of water in that first pic to simulate what it'll look like finished.

[Ape-Shit]

Before I forget, Thanks for the tip about sliding the chipped blade over to get rid of the ding. Never thought about that, but I'm sure it will work just great.

[General Septem]

Before I forget, Thanks for the tip about sliding the chipped blade over to get rid of the ding. Never thought about that, but I'm sure it will work just great.

Awesome. I actually got that one from the DeWalt rep. He said the blades are designed with elongated holes so you can do that, but it might work for you too. :D

[General Septem]

And more dovetailing done today. This time I cut the sockets in the end grain of the two side panels. Finally all the dovetailing is done, so I cut the dadoes for the middle and bottom panel. One thing about cutting dadoes is that you have to keep in mind if you want them a certain distance apart on center or a certain distance in between the dadoes.

For instance, if you want two dadoes 7" apart, if you wanted them 7" on center apart, then you move the fence over 7". If you want 7" in between the dadoes, you have to move the fence over 7" plus the width of the dado. ...Let's just say that's an easy mistake to make. :D

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1913.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1913.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1911.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1911.jpg)

[freakazoid]

Looking good, General. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif When is the estimated day of completion?

[General Septem]

Looking good, General. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif When is the estimated day of completion?

I'm not sure yet. I'm not in a hurry to finish, though, so we'll play it by ear. I'm already thinking about designs I can make next to sell. I think a slimline case would sell really well.

[freakazoid]

I'm not sure yet. I'm not in a hurry to finish, though, so we'll play it by ear. I'm already thinking about designs I can make next to sell. I think a slimline case would sell really well.

Cool, let us know, I might buy one, mang. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[General Septem]

Here are some pics of my most recent development, by the way:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1913.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1913.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1911.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1911.jpg)

[freakazoid]

Here are some pics of my most recent development, by the way:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1913.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1913.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1911.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1911.jpg)

Forgot to ask; how much acrylic will be used in the design? I ask because are you going to use florescence lighting of any kind like in the fans or other inside?

[General Septem]

Forgot to ask; how much acrylic will be used in the design? I ask because are you going to use florescence lighting of any kind like in the fans or other inside?

I'm actually using LED fans after all. I ordered myself a bunch of these:
http://www.svc.com/a1926-14.html

They say LED fans are generally less quality than non-LED fans, but these are rated at a very high CFM for a very low dBA. I may also get a couple of UV CCFLs to light the case up a little more if I have to or wanted to.

Besides the wood you've seen, pretty much everything else will be acrylic. For instance, the motherboard tray, the side panels, the mounting brackets for the drives, and a couple of 5.25" drive boxes in the lower section will all be acrylic.

[freakazoid]

I'm actually using LED fans after all. I ordered myself a bunch of these:
http://www.svc.com/a1926-14.html

They say LED fans are generally less quality than non-LED fans, but these are rated at a very high CFM for a very low dBA. I may also get a couple of UV CCFLs to light the case up a little more if I have to or wanted to.

Besides the wood you've seen, pretty much everything else will be acrylic. For instance, the motherboard tray, the side panels, the mounting brackets for the drives, and a couple of 5.25" drive boxes in the lower section will all be acrylic.

Sounds cool. Looking forward to checking out the finished product, mang. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[hitekredneck]

gen, where's the new pics of yer progress?!...dammit, ya get me fired up then go let me down

[freakazoid]

gen, where's the new pics of yer progress?!...dammit, ya get me fired up then go let me down

Yeah, kind of like masturbating and having to stop midway...:D...well, almost.

[General Septem]

Seems to be that whenever I come across something I'm not sure what to do with, I stop for a bit. Thanks for the encouragement though. :D

[freakazoid]

Seems to be that whenever I come across something I'm not sure what to do with, I stop for a bit. Thanks for the encouragement though. :D

Cool...rock on! http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Nobody]

Yeah, kind of like masturbating and having to stop midway...:D...well, almost.
.... more like looking at pics of hard to look at whores posted by Redneck:D

[General Septem]

Alright, here's some foreplay since you insist :D

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1938.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1938.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/th_IMG_1932.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/akai-suisei/computer/IMG_1932.jpg)


That's (the heatsink I mean) my new Tuniq Tower 120. I got it for my birthday. It glows a cool blue with that Thunderblade fan in it, and even better, I've seen idle temps drop to 24 C on core #0 and 26 C on core #1. No luck pushing the OC any more though. :(

[beelzebub]

Here are some pics of my most recent development, by the way:

Have you finished the case yet?

[General Septem]

Have you finished the case yet?

Not quite. It'll actually be usable before it's finished, though.

[freakazoid]

Not quite. It'll actually be usable before it's finished, though.

How come, general? usable ? How so?

[General Septem]

How come, general? usable ? How so?

I figure once I have it mostly built, I can still have my system in it and running whilst I fabricate drive cages and such. The side panel, for instance, will probably be the last thing I end up making.

[hitekredneck]

what, no liquid cooling?

[General Septem]

not yet, but eventually. ;)

[hitekredneck]

http://www.envador.com/cases/DashboardPC/
thought this was kinda cool :D

[freakazoid]

I figure once I have it mostly built, I can still have my system in it and running whilst I fabricate drive cages and such. The side panel, for instance, will probably be the last thing I end up making.

Sounds like your case is evolving. :Dhttp://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif Cool.

[beelzebub]

GS -I am very curious as to the development of this case.

Where is it? Have I missed the thread with its grand introduction?

Please don't tell me that its fallen by the wayside and the exotic woods you bought are for nothing. All the woods you ordered are endangered or going extinct. It is a horrible waste to fuel the destruction of these woods and then let them fall for scrap. :(

[General Septem]

GS -I am very curious as to the development of this case.

Where is it? Have I missed the thread with its grand introduction?

Please don't tell me that its fallen by the wayside and the exotic woods you bought are for nothing. All the woods you ordered are endangered or going extinct. It is a horrible waste to fuel the destruction of these woods and then let them fall for scrap. :(

I haven't worked on it since my last update. Nothing has been wasted. It's sitting around right now, and I may or may not get to it, but if I don't the wood will get used for something else. Exotic woods are far too expensive to not use.

About them being endangered however, most endangered species are so expensive that I wouldn't touch them if I wanted to. When things become that rare they end up being super expensive.

[freakazoid]

I haven't worked on it since my last update. Nothing has been wasted. It's sitting around right now, and I may or may not get to it, but if I don't the wood will get used for something else. Exotic woods are far too expensive to not use.

About them being endangered however, most endangered species are so expensive that I wouldn't touch them if I wanted to. When things become that rare they end up being super expensive.

Hey, GS, cut the crap and get it finished!! I want one...:Dhttp://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif ...how many cases of beer will it take to get you going again? :D How about if I arrange a date with...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/kingarthurma/Ru3TdJToeJI/AAAAAAAAC9k/wt6zJd1X3Gc/55_209049_985dd4342fb1a07.jpg

[General Septem]

Hey, GS, cut the crap and get it finished!! I want one...:Dhttp://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif ...how many cases of beer will it take to get you going again? :D How about if I arrange a date with...


I have to at least get through Christmas first. Maybe over the summer. :D

[Xilmwa]

I have to at least get through Christmas first. Maybe over the summer. :D

Well shit! How big is this case? It doesn't take 2 full years to get some pieces of wood and put them together, especially if you already have fricken blueprints of how the pieces fit together.

[General Septem]

Well shit! How big is this case? It doesn't take 2 full years to get some pieces of wood and put them together, especially if you already have fricken blueprints of how the pieces fit together.

Well shit, Norm, why don't you just show us all your impressive portfolio of everything you've made from scratch? :rolleyes:

[Xilmwa]

Well shit, Norm, why don't you just show us all your impressive portfolio of everything you've made from scratch? :rolleyes:

lol.

But still. Didn't you already design this back in 2006? It should just be able to put together.

[freakazoid]

Hey, GS, cut the crap and get it finished!! I want one... ...how many cases of beer will it take to get you going again?How about if I arrange a date with...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/kingarthurma/Ru3TdJToeJI/AAAAAAAAC9k/wt6zJd1X3Gc/55_209049_985dd4342fb1a07.jpg

Hey, what happen to my picture? That sux! http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif OK, here's a couple of replacements...


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/Digatone/asian%20girls/chick-1.jpg

http://www.supercars.dk/cars/superbabes/babe.jpg

[General Septem]

lol.

But still. Didn't you already design this back in 2006? It should just be able to put together.

I didn't pull this thing out of a Sauder box. It doesn't just have to be put together, all of the pieces had to be cut just right. In particular, there are pieces of Plexiglas which need to have odd shaped holes cut in them. I've never even worked with Plexiglas before. I'm not saying I can't do it, just that I need more time than I currently have with schoolwork and everything.

[Scowl]

Hey, what happen to my picture? That sux! http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif OK, here's a couple of replacements...


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/Digatone/asian%20girls/chick-1.jpg

http://www.supercars.dk/cars/superbabes/babe.jpg


He doesn't need a date with any of that trash.

[freakazoid]

He doesn't need a date with any of that trash.

Get your head out of your ass, dude, this is trash...

http://danielpeebles.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/Trailer-Trash.jpg

[Scowl]

Get your head out of your ass, dude, this is trash...

First of all, asshole, I am his girlfriend and I don't appreciate finding this kind of shit sent to him. He has enough of it already. If he wants it, he can find it himself. Do you want some kind of prize for posting it?

Second of all, at least the woman in the second picture has half of a personality. She isn't just skin. More realistic. I approve.

[freakazoid]

First of all, asshole, I am his girlfriend and I don't appreciate finding this kind of shit sent to him. He has enough of it already. If he wants it, he can find it himself. Do you want some kind of prize for posting it?

Second of all, at least the woman in the second picture has half of a personality. She isn't just skin. More realistic. I approve.

What time of the month is it for you? :D

[Scowl]

It's not. You on yours?

[Xilmwa]

I didn't pull this thing out of a Sauder box. It doesn't just have to be put together, all of the pieces had to be cut just right. In particular, there are pieces of Plexiglas which need to have odd shaped holes cut in them. I've never even worked with Plexiglas before. I'm not saying I can't do it, just that I need more time than I currently have with schoolwork and everything.

Oh hell, I though this was like my idea for a case, and was made entirely of wood with straight edges. That's completely different.

[General Septem]

Oh hell, I though this was like my idea for a case, and was made entirely of wood with straight edges. That's completely different.

All cases need holes in them for air circulation, as well as to get to the ports in the back and have removable disk drives in the front. Another challenge is that I have to make brackets to hold the drives in. There's nothing extremely complicated about any of it once I got it figured out, but just a lot of stuff I've never done before.

[Xilmwa]

All cases need holes in them for air circulation, as well as to get to the ports in the back and have removable disk drives in the front. Another challenge is that I have to make brackets to hold the drives in. There's nothing extremely complicated about any of it once I got it figured out, but just a lot of stuff I've never done before.

I see what you're saying.

One thing though. Don't cut holes for the ports. Cut a single large hole in the back for the rear panel.

Each motherboard comes with a standard-size panel which will insert in the back of a standard ATX-compliant case, so, uh, yea, don't.

[General Septem]

I see what you're saying.

One thing though. Don't cut holes for the ports. Cut a single large hole in the back for the rear panel.

Each motherboard comes with a standard-size panel which will insert in the back of a standard ATX-compliant case, so, uh, yea, don't.

Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I cannibaized another case I had lying around and took its back panel out. I'm mounting that to a piece of Plexiglas in the back.

[MrJim]

First of all, asshole, I am his girlfriend and I don't appreciate finding this kind of shit sent to him. He has enough of it already. If he wants it, he can find it himself. Do you want some kind of prize for posting it?

:eek:
DAMN!!
Could it be?
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg259/Rmacattack/pussywhipped.jpg

[LedZap]

Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I cannibaized another case I had lying around and took its back panel out. I'm mounting that to a piece of Plexiglas in the back.

I assembled a computer inside a basketball once.Don't have any pics but I'll tell you....It was cool.

[General Septem]

I assembled a computer inside a basketball once.Don't have any pics but I'll tell you....It was cool.

Inside a basketball? Was it a microATX or something?

[freakazoid]

I assembled a computer inside a basketball once.Don't have any pics but I'll tell you....It was cool.

:D How about a toilet...

http://itrocks.biteus.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/ToiletPC01.JPG

[LedZap]

:D How about a toilet...

http://itrocks.biteus.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/ToiletPC01.JPG

That's awesome.....It must be re booted a lot.

[General Septem]

:D How about a toilet...

http://itrocks.biteus.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/ToiletPC01.JPG

That must be one of those new Macs I've been hearing about. :D

[LedZap]

It must not have a screen cleaner

[Xilmwa]

That must be one of those new Macs I've been hearing about. :D

Na, it must be a PC. Looks like something crashed on it.

[Xilmwa]

Na, it must be a PC. Looks like something crashed on it.

And besides, if it was a Mac, there would be a port on the side for RAM upgrades, another one for SATA HDD installs, etc.

[General Septem]

And besides, if it was a Mac, there would be a port on the side for RAM upgrades, another one for SATA HDD installs, etc.

I think you have it backwards, it's PCs that are upgradeable. :D

[freakazoid]

It's not. You on yours?

:Dhttp://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon14.gif No, I'm on this...

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh157/lifewithm/tape.jpg

[Xilmwa]

I think you have it backwards, it's PCs that are upgradeable. :D

Hmm.....dual Quad-core Intel Xeon Processors, up to 4 TB of storage, with 32 GB of RAM, and a video card with up to 1.5GB of video memory.

Yep, that isn't upgradable.

[freakazoid]

That must be one of those new Macs I've been hearing about. :D

By the looks of the opening seat cover, it could be a new Apple Laptop :D

[Xilmwa]

By the looks of the opening seat cover, it could be a new Apple Laptop :D

No, it can't be. There isn't a bit of glass on it.

[LedZap]

Looks like there was some ASS on it.

[General Septem]

That's just the ASCII. That comes standard on all Apple laptops.

[Xilmwa]

That's just the ASCII. That comes standard on all Apple laptops.

American Standard Code for Information Interchange?

What on earth does that have to do with glass?

[freakazoid]

American Standard Code for Information Interchange?

What on earth does that have to do with glass?

Try thinking it over again :D

[Xilmwa]

Try thinking it over again :D

Doesn't matter.

http://itrocks.biteus.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/ToiletPC01.JPG

http://www.macbookair-review.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/apple-macbook-air1.jpg

I don't see any resemblance at all.