ten reasons why gay marriage is wrong!!!!!!

[yea_thats_right1]

Ten reasons why gay marriage is wrong!

1.Being gay is not natural. We should reject unnatural things like
optical glasses, airplanes, telephones and air conditioning.

2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same manner that hanging around tall people makes you tall and visiting African nations changes your skin color.

3. Gay marriage will change the foundation of socioty and we will never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't addapted to cars, the internet, tv or longer life spans.

4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5. Straight marriage would be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed! The sanctity of Britney spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children. Indeed straight couples who don't produce children will soon be forced to separate.

7. Gay parents will raise gay children, just like straight parents only raise straight children.

8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion and we should only
legalize what religion sanctifies -like holy wars, slavery and smiting your neighbors for wearing mixed fibre garments.

9. Children can never succeed without a male and female role model. That's why single parenting is illegal.

10. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because, as we know, dogs have legal standing and can sign marriage contracts.:eek:

[who897]

Yes, down with the evil, corrupt, and loving, caring, gentle gay marrages.....;)

[Ausinus]

Exactly. Hahaha this is brilliant!:D

To quote Rosie "I wish the world was ruled by gay people; there would be no more wars, only a greater emphasis on military apparell":D

[General Septem]

Ha, funny.

[MrBirdy]

Ten reasons why gay marriage is wrong!

1.Being gay is not natural. We should reject unnatural things like
optical glasses, airplanes, telephones and air conditioning.

2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same manner that hanging around tall people makes you tall and visiting African nations changes your skin color.

3. Gay marriage will change the foundation of socioty and we will never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't addapted to cars, the internet, tv or longer life spans.

4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5. Straight marriage would be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed! The sanctity of Britney spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children. Indeed straight couples who don't produce children will soon be forced to separate.

7. Gay parents will raise gay children, just like straight parents only raise straight children.

8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion and we should only
legalize what religion sanctifies -like holy wars, slavery and smiting your neighbors for wearing mixed fibre garments.

9. Children can never succeed without a male and female role model. That's why single parenting is illegal.

10. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because, as we know, dogs have legal standing and can sign marriage contracts.:eek:

What the fuck is wrong with your mind? seriously, you are clearly supporting a dictatorship here.

here is whats wrong with your responses:

1. Well, if your gonna talk and not do, then i dont care, but if you wanna keep it up, i sudgest you throw your PC in the trash right now...

2. First of all, being around tall people, and you actually being tall is actually completely different, do you know how genetics work?

3. I think that the US has adapted to cars just fine, dont believe me, when something becomes a nessecity, and everyone can afford one, we have adapted.

4. You clearly need to get Jim Crow out of your head, and read a little about what happend between 1960-1985, hey, i can marry a jap, and im mexican.

5. Marriage will never lose its meaning unless people want it to, the day someone says "you know what, marriage isnt important, i think i'll go cheat on my wife" is the day that marriage loses its meaning. But the meaning of marriage, and beng gay have absolutley no correlation, becouse if you are gonna say that, i think you could blame more rednecks rather than gays.

6. You Nazi, thats about all i can say...

7. Not all gay parents will raise gay children, being gay IS NOT a choice, believe me i know... (no, im not gay, but i speak to many gay people, and i have never felt an attraction to a man.)

8. Ok, i get it, this is a joke now isnt it? becouse no religion is the true religion:
"The Pure And Simple Truth Is Rarely Pure, And Never Simple..."

9. again... You Nazi...

10. Hmmm.... well, for starters... i ould think that anybody that wants to marry an animal is fucken insane...

Get a hobby or something...

[Ausinus]

She is joking you prat. No DUH!:D

[MrBirdy]

She is joking you prat. No DUH!:D


8.Ok, i get it, this is a joke now isnt it?

I knew you dolt that i love...

LOL merry christmas, ohh... wait thats politically incorrect, and the call the US the land of the free... i gotta say "happy holidays..."

[Ausinus]

Oh sorry im being daft:D

[who897]

IT WAS A JOKE??????? OHH MY GOODNESS, I am now totally lost....ohh wait, fuck christianity, fuck it till it's pregnant, then have an aboriton w/ it. Good day sir's and Ma'am's.

[Ausinus]

Hey i've got a crazy idea - lets send Who to a finishing school!:D

You watch your mouth. Only one fuck per post.

[MrBirdy]

Hey i've got a crazy idea - lets send Who to a finishing school!:D

You watch your mouth. Only one fuck per post.

Yeah... your right, dont fuck up freedom of speech...

Ass shit crap bitch nigger beaner chink cracker Muslim!!

[Ausinus]

No, I meant your only allowed one fuck per post. Or else you'd get tired:D

Lets have more liberals and less catholics!

[who897]

Hey i've got a crazy idea - lets send Who to a finishing school!:D

You watch your mouth. Only one fuck per post.

I'm a sailor, and there is a saying about sailors. Well, not about them but about people who cuss a lot. You have a sailors mouth. And when I'm a drinkin bro the dragon comes out.

[Ausinus]

Read my above post to see the double entendre in what I said.:D

[who897]

Yeah... your right, dont fuck up freedom of speech...

Ass shit crap bitch nigger beaner chink cracker Muslim!!


I agree up to nigger beaner chink cracker, well not cracker cuz that's funny. Ummm, did not know muslim was a cuss word now a days....perhaps I better use it more liberally now.

I is not edjumakated, have no idear what a double entondra or what ever means like.

[Ausinus]

Apparently if you go into a dark room in front of a mirror and say Condoleeza three times you'll either get that bitch from congress or a condom, a lizard and some rice.:D

[who897]

Apparently if you go into a dark room in front of a mirror and say Condoleeza three times you'll either get that bitch from congress or a condom, a lizard and some rice.:D

I read that somewhere too. I think it originated to saying bloody mary 3 times in a mirror though.

[MrBirdy]

No, I meant your only allowed one fuck per post. Or else you'd get tired:D

Lets have more liberals and less catholics!

My wee-wee hurts now...

[Ausinus]

My wee-wee hurts now...

Ok, soon I will have to switch to japanese or french for expletives. Im running out of english ones.

[MrBirdy]

I agree up to nigger beaner chink cracker, well not cracker cuz that's funny. Ummm, did not know muslim was a cuss word now a days....perhaps I better use it more liberally now.

I is not edjumakated, have no idear what a double entondra or what ever means like.

It should be a cuss word, along with lawyer or even worse "jewish banker!!"

I just spoke of an evil of which i should not speak...
LOl

[who897]

It should be a cuss word, along with lawyer or even worse "jewish banker!!"

I just spoke of an evil of which i should not speak...
LOl

Is that like an italian pizzaria owner?

[Ausinus]

I is not edjumakated, have no idear what a double entondra or what ever means like.

Double Entendre from the french, means double meaning, where the first meaning is innocent but the second one is risque.:D

[who897]

Then where ever it was totally took a boeing 757 and flew it's ass right over my head on a vector heading south.

[Ausinus]

I dont get it.:o

[who897]

What ever you said was totally fucking over my head....remember I am unedjumakated...this is why I joined the military best job I could get w/ my lack of experence in the world of the living.

[Ausinus]

Your going to gaol with the rest of them then:D jk.

[who897]

If by gaol you mean sleep, then yep, shortly I will be doing that. Other wise I have no idear what the hell that means.

[Ausinus]

Oh bugger, I forgot you people spell it differently. Its the older spelling of jail which people in Australia and England use. From the old french gaole.

[who897]

Like color and center...which yall spell for some unknown reason colour and centere or centre

[Ausinus]

We spell it colour and centre, also theatre and metre. Thats because most words with more than one syllable in english are derived from the french, like detriment.

You guys seem to have dropped most of the french from your spellings. We still use the suffix -tre rather than -ter for most words, and also we spell a lot of words with an extra u, like colour and favour.

[who897]

You'd do well to drop anything french from your culture.... cuz pretty soon the french are gonna create a new national flag, it's gonna be all white. :D

[Ausinus]

No thats the Italian military flag.

I love french. Its great for picking up chicks, seriously, and it shows how cultured you are.

J'aime vos livres, ils suis très gentil. :D

[yea_thats_right1]

What the fuck is wrong with your mind? seriously, you are clearly supporting a dictatorship here.

here is whats wrong with your responses:

1. Well, if your gonna talk and not do, then i dont care, but if you wanna keep it up, i sudgest you throw your PC in the trash right now...

2. First of all, being around tall people, and you actually being tall is actually completely different, do you know how genetics work?

3. I think that the US has adapted to cars just fine, dont believe me, when something becomes a nessecity, and everyone can afford one, we have adapted.

4. You clearly need to get Jim Crow out of your head, and read a little about what happend between 1960-1985, hey, i can marry a jap, and im mexican.

5. Marriage will never lose its meaning unless people want it to, the day someone says "you know what, marriage isnt important, i think i'll go cheat on my wife" is the day that marriage loses its meaning. But the meaning of marriage, and beng gay have absolutley no correlation, becouse if you are gonna say that, i think you could blame more rednecks rather than gays.

6. You Nazi, thats about all i can say...

7. Not all gay parents will raise gay children, being gay IS NOT a choice, believe me i know... (no, im not gay, but i speak to many gay people, and i have never felt an attraction to a man.)

8. Ok, i get it, this is a joke now isnt it? becouse no religion is the true religion:
"The Pure And Simple Truth Is Rarely Pure, And Never Simple..."

9. again... You Nazi...

10. Hmmm.... well, for starters... i ould think that anybody that wants to marry an animal is fucken insane...

Get a hobby or something...



SLOW down killa!!! geesh! it was a JOKE... do you know what JOKE means? holy crap

[General Septem]

I will say one thing though. Single parenting may not be illegal, but it's not an ideal situation for raising a kid, even if for no other reason than when you're at work, your kid is without a parent.

[who897]

No thats the Italian military flag.

I love french. Its great for picking up chicks, seriously, and it shows how cultured you are.

J'aime vos livres, ils suis très gentil. :D

I'm cultured....like a petredish. And stop looking at my books, it makes me nervous :D
Also, the italians will always have the mafia to act like their military...wanna go sleepin wit da fishies? :D

[Ausinus]

Haha.

It does mean you cultured. Plus you dont have to read the subtitles at some of the operas.:D

[who897]

Haha.

It does mean you cultured. Plus you dont have to read the subtitles at some of the operas.:D

Not quite sure if you got the petredish part.

[Ausinus]

No, plus its spelt Petri Dish not Petre Dish.

[who897]

No, plus its spelt Petri Dish not Petre Dish.

See the automatic bullshit spell checker.

[Chigun]

I've always heard being gay is gay.... so I stay away from it.

[beelzebub]

I've always heard being gay is gay.... so I stay away from it.

I guess Nicholas also heard that its cool to have make-believe cartoon heroes at 18 years old.

[Chigun]

personal attack! -gasps-

First, that post was a joke, second that 'cartoon hero' was made at age 8. :P I've used him in a few novel ideas before. -shrugs-

[who897]

Wow, beez decided to join the land of the living.

[beelzebub]

Wow, beez decided to join the land of the living.

Yes I am back. (Well for now). I am in Atlanta looking at properties (man & baby in tow) ..... Be varned




personal attack! -gasps- First, that post was a joke, second that 'cartoon hero' was made at age 8. :P I've used him in a few novel ideas before. -shrugs-

Tasteless jokes that use sub-culture titles in a pejorative manner are prejudice.

You made Chigun?

[who897]

Atlanta would definatly not be on my top 10 places to live, but that's me.

And the cartoon stuff is rather confusing. Have no idear what the heck yall are talkin bout.

[General Septem]

Atlanta would definatly not be on my top 10 places to live, but that's me.

And the cartoon stuff is rather confusing. Have no idear what the heck yall are talkin bout.

I've been to Atlanta before. It wasn't that bad. It gets too fucking hot in the summer though.

[who897]

I've been to Atlanta before. It wasn't that bad. It gets too fucking hot in the summer though.

I was going for the 2 million rednecks in 1 city...scary :D

[Chigun]

I won't deny I have a prejudice against homosexuals for personal reasons, and I don't think anyone here can rightly tell me not to.

And yes, I made Nick Chigun. The name Chigun just so happens to be my internet persona, not necessarily reflecting the character, whom was in previously written stories.

[habzfan73]

Can someone out there send me a private message, I been contacted by a person claiming to be an hr representitive of a company called ocean oil and gas, for cheque cashing reasons. If you know of this scam, (if it is a scam) let me know asap

[beelzebub]

I won't deny I have a prejudice against homosexuals for personal reasons, and I don't think anyone here can rightly tell me not to.

You are more than welcome to live your life as you see fit. And believe what you want. There are many people who dislike/hate groups of people for multitudes of reasons. You are just one of them (bigots).

[Chigun]

I'm really getting tired of being called a "Bigot" or intolerant for disagreeing with homosexuality. First, I know two people who are gay and as -people- I get along with them just fine.

I think your living by the postmodern view, who holds tolerance above all else. It’s not a crime to disagree with something just because the big celebs in Hollywood say the rest of us should endorse it (and do). It doesn’t make me a "homophobe" just because I think marriage should remain the way it is. I don't think I'm ignorant because I'm not following the masses in the current view points.

I think it's wrong because those kinds of relationships are nothing but pure sexuality, be it butt sex or oral. It's known to greatly and easily spread AIDs and other diseases, and it would literally topple the current view of marriage. This country would lose all of its former stances/values and be open to just about anything. (Which is going to happen eventually looks like it... since we can't offend anyone...)

So, whatever, I guess I'm a 'intolerant' after all, but so be it.

[General Septem]

You are more than welcome to live your life as you see fit. And believe what you want. There are many people who dislike/hate groups of people for multitudes of reasons. You are just one of them (bigots).

You realize that by judging bigots, you're guilty of the same thing you hate them for? Actually moreso since I'm probably what you'd call a "bigot" and I don't hate or judge anyone.

[who897]

I won't deny I have a prejudice against homosexuals for personal reasons, and I don't think anyone here can rightly tell me not to.

And yes, I made Nick Chigun. The name Chigun just so happens to be my internet persona, not necessarily reflecting the character, whom was in previously written stories.

I can tell you rightly that you shouldn't be prejudice toward gay folks. You just gotta look at it from a different angle, a different perspective. Me being a straight man, I look at homosexuals as people that will never screw my wife/girlfriend. They are a shit ton less likely to molest children. I will never have to compete w/ them for said wife/girlfriend in the dating market. The intolerence towards them is unjust, unfounded, and quite lacking of any merit.

[General Septem]

I can tell you rightly that you shouldn't be prejudice toward gay folks. You just gotta look at it from a different angle, a different perspective. Me being a straight man, I look at homosexuals as people that will never screw my wife/girlfriend. They are a shit ton less likely to molest children. I will never have to compete w/ them for said wife/girlfriend in the dating market. The intolerence towards them is unjust, unfounded, and quite lacking of any merit.

Yes, but
1. For every gay man there's a lesbian who won't go out with you anyway.

2. They're just as likely to molest children, in fact probably moreso. They just won't molest female children.

3. There's one less guy to screw your wife/girlfriend, but if she was going to cheat to begin with she'd just find another guy to screw.

[Ausinus]

Personally, I think that by denying them marriage and adoption you are denying them equal rights.

[General Septem]

Personally, I think that by denying them marriage and adoption you are denying them equal rights.

We're not denying them marriage. Any single and consenting man, straight or otherwise, can marry and single unrelated consenting female, straight or otherwise. Gay people can get married the same as we can. They just don't want to marry the people they're allowed to marry.

And we're not denying them adoption. Obviously, because Beelzebub has a son who is adopted.

[Ausinus]

We're not denying them marriage. Any single and consenting man, straight or otherwise, can marry and single unrelated consenting female, straight or otherwise. Gay people can get married the same as we can. They just don't want to marry the people they're allowed to marry.

FUCK YOU! YOU'RE AN INSENSITIVE BUGGER.:mad:

You are denying them the right to express a mutual love through marriage, thats how they dont have the same rights as we do. I dont see why they cant marry so long as they are single, unrelated, consenting and of age.

[General Septem]

FUCK YOU! YOU'RE AN INSENSITIVE BUGGER.:mad:

You are denying them the right to express a mutual love through marriage, thats how they dont have the same rights as we do. I dont see why they cant marry so long as they are single, unrelated, consenting and of age.

But you're saying they don't have equal rights, and I'm saying they do. Gay people can marry the same people we can. It's not my problem if they want to marry someone they can't. Pedophiles can't either, nor can incestual relationships or people who are already married to someone else.

[Ausinus]

I can see you are too blinded by your faith to see what a prick your being on this matter.

If they are unrelated, single, consenting and of age, and they love each other, they should be allowed to marry. They cant now, we should just change the law to say they can. Its just these outdated Abrahamic religious values keep getting in the way of that.

Who are you to deny them that right if they love each other? Homosexuals can love each other just as much, in some cases more than heterosexuals can. If they fill the requirements above, they should be allowed to marry. It doesnt hurt anyone.

[General Septem]

I can see you are too blinded by your faith to see what a prick your being on this matter.

If they are unrelated, single, consenting and of age, and they love each other, they should be allowed to marry. They cant now, we should just change the law to say they can. Its just these outdated Abrahamic religious values keep getting in the way of that.

Who's to say gender doesn't matter? Why does gender not matter but that they're unrelated, single, and/or consenting still matters?

[Ausinus]

Gender does not matter, Unless having a vagina or dick is a factor in getting married. If you believe that, you are truly a sad person. Marriage is a public declaration of your love for one another (not to mention the legal rights), not some segregated act limited on the basis of genitalia.

[General Septem]

Gender does not matter, Unless having a vagina or dick was a factor in getting married. If you believe that, you are truly a sad person. Marriage is a public declaration of your love for one another (not to mention the legal rights), not some segregated act limited on the basis of genitalia.

And you're equally sad if you think the only difference between a man and a woman is that one has a dick and the other has a vagina. And no, that's not what marriage is about.

[Ausinus]

In religious views, marriage may be about more, but at a secular level, thats what it is.

Ok, that is the most major physical difference. There are other differences. But the point is they dont change anything. They can love each other as much as straight people, and can love children as much too

[General Septem]

In religious views, marriage may be about more, but at a secular level, thats what it is.

Ok, that is the most major physical difference. There are other differences. But the point is they dont change anything. They can love each other as much as straight people, and can love children as much too

Marriage is not all about love. Love is a major part of it, but it's not the only thing. If love was the only thing, you could marry your cousin, or your sister, and you could marry as many people as you wanted.

[who897]

Marriage isn't about love, it's all about getting your car insurance premiums lower and better tax bracket thingy. If marriage was so sacred why can anthiest get married, why do they have 1000's of places to get married by elvis in Las Vegas, why does the catholic church charge soooooo freaking much. The only reason you all don't want marriage is because the church doesn't want it. The church doesn't like gay folks and they can't go back on themselves (because they are pig headed idiots) because that would mean the church is failable. This is one of those instances of where the church could make even more money for itself (since it is really only a money making scheme to begin with) but since is so stubornly retarted it wont. If you think about it, all priests that practice celibacy are gay. They do not have sex in any way that is condoned by the church, regaurdless if they aren't having sex at all.

[Ausinus]

Mutual consent and unrelated. Asshole.

[General Septem]

Mutual consent and unrelated. Asshole.
To whom are you responding? I said, if marriage is only about love, then you could marry your sister too. I hope you love your sister (mind you not in the romantic way), don't you?

[Ausinus]

Intimate love, not familial love. There are different kinds of love.

[General Septem]

Intimate love, not familial love. There are different kinds of love.
So you would deny marriage to those who love their sister intimately?

[Ausinus]

Yes, as any children from that union would be inbred which could have serious consequences for the child.

[General Septem]

Yes, as any children from that union would be inbred which could have serious consequences for the child.

But gay people can't even have children.

[Ausinus]

And this matters because.....? Unless we also ban any infertile people from being married.

[General Septem]

And this matters because.....? Unless we also ban any infertile people from being married.

So who's to say we can't allow incestual relationships as long as they don't have kids? It's not like they wouldn't have kids as an unmarried couple anyway.

[Ausinus]

Fine then. If they dont have children, I dont see why not. So long as they are of age and consenting.

[General Septem]

Fine then. If they dont have children, I dont see why not. So long as they are of age and consenting.
So you think a man should be able to marry his sister? That's disgusting.

[Ausinus]

Hey your bible says that our ancestors incestually populated the earth.

[who897]

Adam fucked Eve...they had a child right. That child had to either fuck Adam or Eve or one of it's siblings.....the bible says incest is the best put your sister to the test!!!!!!!!!!!!

[beelzebub]

I'm really getting tired of being called a "Bigot" or intolerant for disagreeing with homosexuality. First, I know two people who are gay and as -people- I get along with them just fine. [QUOTE=Chigun]

Excuse me!?!?! You said prejudice - not disagree

prejudice is defined as:
1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims
2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics

[QUOTE=Chigun] I think your living by the postmodern view, who holds tolerance above all else.

Oh thank you for letting me know oh great and wise Chigun. What would I do with little people like you putting me into nice boxes so you can understand me?


It doesn’t make me a "homophobe" just because I think marriage should remain the way it is. I don't think I'm ignorant because I'm not following the masses in the current view points.

You are a homophobe because you said you were prejudice against homosexuals (see the definition)

Follow the masses? There are far more people against us than for us.


I think it's wrong because those kinds of relationships are nothing but pure sexuality, be it butt sex or oral.

Bigoted people have always thought their way or kind was superior to others.


It's known to greatly and easily spread AIDs and other diseases,

You really don't know what you are talking about (or who you are talking to).


and it would literally topple the current view of marriage. This country would lose all of its former stances/values and be open to just about anything.

I believe that srt8 people have done a better job "toppeling marriage" than we could ever do.

[ajk]

[QUOTE=Chigun]
I believe that srt8 people have done a better job "toppeling marriage" than we could ever do.

I think it's both that have caused marriage to become what it now is.

[Ausinus]

I really admire gay people, if anything they love more than straight people because they are able to love past the whole gender thing.

[beelzebub]

You realize that by judging bigots, you're guilty of the same thing you hate them for? Actually moreso since I'm probably what you'd call a "bigot" and I don't hate or judge anyone.

This is what I said:


You are more than welcome to live your life as you see fit and believe what you want. There are many people who dislike/hate groups of people for multitudes of reasons. You are just one of them (bigots).

Nowhere in this statement is a judgment. They are all statements of fact. You just don't like to think of yourself as a bigot. Too bad.

[ajk]

Nowhere in this statement is a judgment. They are all statements of fact. You just don't like to think of yourself as a bigot. Too bad.

Yes there is a judgment in there. You say he hates gays, when in fact he doesn't. He hates their actions, not them as people. Big difference.

[Ausinus]

Then he is bigoted against their actions then. Freedom of choice, these actions dont hurt anyone.

[ajk]

Then he is bigoted against their actions then. Freedom of choice, these actions dont hurt anyone.

Which is again wrong. These actions hurt marriage and what it stands for, and affects families in general. Not to mention any kids involved, as they see this and begin to think it's ok too, even though it isn't.

[General Septem]

This is what I said:



Nowhere in this statement is a judgment. They are all statements of fact. You just don't like to think of yourself as a bigot. Too bad.

"Bigot" is a judgment. I could call you a bigot against homophobes, seeing as how one rarely chooses to be phobic of anything.

[General Septem]

I really admire gay people, if anything they love more than straight people because they are able to love past the whole gender thing.

That's an entirely prejudiced and bigoted thing for you to say. (hey everyone else is accusing everyone of it) :D

Seriously, though, why the hell would you say gay people love more than straight people? They're not able to love past the gender thing, they only love the opposite gender. What you're referring to is bi people. But I beg to differ; they don't love more than we do in a brotherly sense, since they'd love both genders only in the sexual and/or romantic fashion. So your assertions about gay people loving more than straight people are pretty much wrong.

Perhaps if anything they love more because they've been hated on so much, but then so have we.

[who897]

Which is again wrong. These actions hurt marriage and what it stands for, and affects families in general. Not to mention any kids involved, as they see this and begin to think it's ok too, even though it isn't.

Your statements hurt my stomach...cuz I laugh so much at how distorted your views are. Straight folks hurt marraige more then gays. Straight folks hurt children more then gays. Hell, your narrow mindedness hurts more people then you could ever possibly know. Look what you did to James Brown, you murder.

[Ausinus]

Not to mention any kids involved, as they see this and begin to think it's ok too, even though it isn't.

It is ok, there is no evidence that homosexuality being acceptable has hurt anyone directly.

But again we should ban it because only gay people can raise gay kids. Idiot.

[ajk]

It is ok, there is no evidence that homosexuality being acceptable has hurt anyone directly.


Doesn't have to be any evidence to know that it can and does. It warps the mind of a child, as to what marriage really is. They become confused.

[Ausinus]

Only because you christian conservative bastards place stigma upon it.

And there has to be evidenciary support enough to disallow it as law.

[ajk]

Only because you christian conservative bastards place stigma upon it.


No fool, if a child is born to a mother and father, if he later sees someone with two mommies and two daddies he knows something is wrong, and I said above becomes confused.

[Ausinus]

Then teach them. "Honey, we are homosexual, it means we like people of the same sex." There is nothing wrong with that.

And watch what you say to me.

[beelzebub]

"Bigot" is a judgment. I could call you a bigot against homophobes, seeing as how one rarely chooses to be phobic of anything.

He called himself prejudice against homosexuals. Thats defines himself as a bigot. All I did was comment on his allegiance to prejudice people. Therefore you are wrong, yet once again.

[beelzebub]

No fool, if a child is born to a mother and father, if he later sees someone with two mommies and two daddies he knows something is wrong, and I said above becomes confused.

The child sees something is different. The value "wrong" is taught to the child by fools such as yourself.

[ohreally]

No fool
Sorry my religion does not allow you to say to anybody -so please do not say that or else I'll have to take this to the courts and demand this sort of expression to be banned!

[who897]

Then teach them. "Honey, we are homosexual, it means we like people of the same sex." There is nothing wrong with that.

And watch what you say to me.

You do realize those religious parasites don't understand the concept of teaching, at least teaching for understanding. They teach fear and have no idea what you mean by ...oohhh gasp....teaching compasion towards others.

[General Septem]

The child sees something is different. The value "wrong" is taught to the child by fools such as yourself.
You're right. We should teach kids that nothing is wrong and that they should go around killing people too.

[Ausinus]

Wrong is subjective, its just most societies have veiwed killing as wrong.

[who897]

Well, that sounds a lot better then teaching kids to live in fear of everything, not to question anything, don't learn about the world around them, and continue to lie to them about a supreme being. Yall want robots, cookie cutter impressions of yourself....and screw any form of indiviuallity.

[General Septem]

Wrong is subjective, its just most societies have veiwed killing as wrong.
Just because most people believe something doesn't make it right or wrong.

[Ausinus]

Uh yeah it does. Societal psychology mate, a civilizations views upon an act defines its morals. Look at the Aztecs, they viewed ritual sacrifice as a necessity.

[General Septem]

Uh yeah it does. Societal psychology mate, a civilizations views upon an act defines its morals. Look at the Aztecs, they viewed ritual sacrifice as a necessity.

If a society's morals based on their collective beliefs were right, and they lived by these morals, then their society would not fail.

[Ausinus]

If a society's morals based on their collective beliefs were right, and they lived by these morals, then their society would not fail.

There is no universal right, "right" and "wrong" are defined due to society. QED.

All societies fail eventually. First they rise, then a "golden age", then it declines due to either hubris of external factors, then finally it collapses or changes drastically.

[General Septem]

There is no universal right, "right" and "wrong" are defined due to society. QED.

All societies fail eventually. First they rise, then a "golden age", then it declines due to either hubris of external factors, then finally it collapses or changes drastically.

And unless that collapse is an external one, such as an attack, the collapse of a society is due to one or more individuals either not having good morals to begin with or not living by them. A society in which everyone killed each other wouldn't last long either.

[Ausinus]

Even christian societies have collapsed or have been weakened due to one of its factors being hubris. The Byzantine and Roman Empires, the Holy Roman Empire, Kingdom of France, The Crusader States etc.

[who897]

Just reading Aus's post on civilizations that influenced the world and couldn't help think about the USA...strange right. Is the USA the only major super power ever to gain and mantain it's standing without expanding it's borders? By that I mean perpetual warring. I think the USA will last a great while more since every aspect of our constitution is maliable and allows for adaptation. Where as those other societies were destined for failure through their constant use of force to impose it's will on everything.

Also, hypothetically, I highly doubt any nation truely wants the USA to fail. The economical fallout would just about hurt every nation on earth, to what extent I don't know, I'm not an economist. Those that say they don't like the USA, I say would you rather have some other nation gain as much power as the USA has? What abuses and atrocities would be committed. At least with the USA you know where we stand, we are content with staying in our own borders without war. Can't say that the next super power to emerge will not look to creating vast empires and absolute control over all other countries.

[LolPwned]

Lets let homosexuals marry, I dont see why god cannot bestow a blessing upon the union.

[Ausinus]

THANK YOU. Omg ajk, why cant you be like this person?

[ajk]

Lets let homosexuals marry, I dont see why god cannot bestow a blessing upon the union.

No way, if you do that then it opens the door for any kind of marriage. Marriage was meant for man and woman only. Keyword only. Not man and man, not woman and woman, but man and woman. If God wanted same sex marriages, he would have created Adam and Steve or Mary and Eve.

[who897]

No way, if you do that then it opens the door for any kind of marriage. Marriage was meant for man and woman only. Keyword only. Not man and man, not woman and woman, but man and woman. If God wanted same sex marriages, he would have created Adam and Steve or Mary and Eve.

According to yall "god" folk your "god" created Adam, Steve, Mary and Eve. Not just that also your "god" created everyone and everything. Therefore we shall all be allowed to marry whomever or whatever we feel like it. Too bad you can't see me blowing the smoking barrels of my fingers. BTW it's so cute to see a christian scared of something, that's why all christians are so adorable. Just wanna pinch your cheek.

[LolPwned]

It is not a sin, god blesses unions that are formed from mutual love. I cannot understand why you refuse them that.

[General Septem]

It is not a sin, god blesses unions that are formed from mutual love. I cannot understand why you refuse them that.

Because marriage is about more than just love. Marriage is about a man and a woman coming together to form one flesh, just as Adam was before God removed something from him and created Eve. In effect, when a man and a woman come together and become one flesh, they become the image and likeness of God again. It's more than just mutual love, which is never a sin. It's not about love at all but about lust.

[LolPwned]

You dont actually believe genesis do you? No, god will bless a union if it is formed out of love and compassion, which are essential to a happy marriage. What we do in our bedrooms is our own business and god will not punish someone for it.

[General Septem]

You dont actually believe genesis do you? No, god will bless a union if it is formed out of love and compassion, which are essential to a happy marriage.

Love and compassion are essential to marriage, but they're not what marriage is entirely about. And I agree, God will and does bless any union formed out of love. In fact some (including myself) might say that the love is the blessing, or a great deal of it. That doesn't mean two men should be able to get married, because that's not what marriage is about.

[LolPwned]

Clearly what you believe marriage is about is different from my belief. I, and others, believe marriage is an expression of our love, regardless of gender. May I ask what denomination you are?

[General Septem]

Clearly what you believe marriage is about is different from my belief. I, and others, believe marriage is an expression of our love, regardless of gender. May I ask what denomination you are?

The notion that marriage is entirely about love is ludicrous.

You may ask.

[LolPwned]

What denomination are you?

[ajk]

According to yall "god" folk your "god" created Adam, Steve, Mary and Eve. Not just that also your "god" created everyone and everything. Therefore we shall all be allowed to marry whomever or whatever we feel like it.

No because he created Adam and Eve originally. If he had as I said created Mary and Eve or Adam and Steve at creation, things would be different. But he didn't.

[General Septem]

What denomination are you?

Who, me? I'm Catholic. And you?

[LolPwned]

The Religious Society of Friends. Or Quaker, whatever gets your gears going.

[LolPwned]

No because he created Adam and Eve originally. If he had as I said created Mary and Eve or Adam and Steve at creation, things would be different. But he didn't.

Provided genesis is an actual account, which it most likely isnt.

[General Septem]

Provided genesis is an actual account, which it most likely isnt.

If you don't believe in the Bible, then on what do you base your beliefs? You call yourself a Christian, well I guaran-damn-tee you Jesus believed in the book of Genesis.

[LolPwned]

I call myself christian, because I belive Jesus was the son of god and he came to this world to save everyone. I base my beliefs off the new testament, not the old.

Jesus' true message was not to rely on a single book to teach us everything, but rather to lead a good life, give to charity, dont commit crime, etc. That is all that is necessary to get into heaven.

[who897]

See what I mean about adorable little christians....ohh I'm all warm and fuzzy inside.

[LolPwned]

What do you mean by that?

[who897]

It's sorta hard to discribe...almost like taking a shot of whisky or something...man it's kinda hard to explain warm and fuzzy feelings.

[General Septem]

Jesus' true message was not to rely on a single book to teach us everything, but rather to lead a good life, give to charity, dont commit crime, etc. That is all that is necessary to get into heaven.

Of course, but Jesus also had faith in the Bible. After all, if it wasn't for that single book, you wouldn't even know anything of Jesus's message. I'm as much against sola scriptura as any good Catholic, but that doesn't mean the Bible is wrong, it's just not everything we were meant to know.

[LolPwned]

Oh ok. :D Its good that you feel good.

[prairie_looner]

Apparently if you go into a dark room in front of a mirror and say Condoleeza three times you'll either get that bitch from congress or a condom, a lizard and some rice.:D

Condoleezza Rice is not a Cajun side dish! :D