legalize under age smoking

[da holly shit]

most of ma friends only starded smoking cuz dej arnt allowed n den dey get addicted n moddy cuz shop keepers want sell enything 2 dem:(

[Josh]

Do you talk like that because you are retarded or are you just Korean or some shit?

[sucks to be you]

most of ma friends only starded smoking cuz dej arnt allowed n den dey get addicted n moddy cuz shop keepers want sell enything 2 dem:(

Wow, so like you are saying once you are legally alowed to buy them, you aren't addicted anymore? So how would explain the fact that I'm not a crackhead, I can't buy that legally, no wait, I musn't be addicted tot hat cause I'm not bummed out about it. My opinion legal age for smoking and drinking should be as high as the legal age for adulthood period and permanent. Hell I wouldn't lose a minute of sleep if they were flat out illegal and wiped off the face of th earth.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Well said sucks, smoking is proven to kill and everyone knows it, so they are in effect commiting suicide, and since suicide is illegal smoking should be too.

As far as drinking goes, for the majority of us its not a life or death situation if we don't have it, but it sure the hell is fun when we do. Liquor kills too, but only when consumed by idiots, so just make it illegal for them.:D

[General Septem]

As far as drinking goes, for the majority of us its not a life or death situation if we don't have it, but it sure the hell is fun when we do. Liquor kills too, but only when consumed by idiots, so just make it illegal for them.:D
I think we should make the world less safe for idiots. Like, take the warning labels off of everything. If it's not obvious that it's dangerous, you're not smart enough to use it. If you do anyway, well you'll be helping society. :D

That said, when idiots get drunk they tend to kill innocent people too. :/

[hkdbadreligion]

I think we should make the world less safe for idiots. Like, take the warning labels off of everything. If it's not obvious that it's dangerous, you're not smart enough to use it. If you do anyway, well you'll be helping society. :D

That said, when idiots get drunk they tend to kill innocent people too. :/
I second this idea.

[hkdbadreligion]

Well said sucks, smoking is proven to kill and everyone knows it, so they are in effect commiting suicide, and since suicide is illegal smoking should be too.

As far as drinking goes, for the majority of us its not a life or death situation if we don't have it, but it sure the hell is fun when we do. Liquor kills too, but only when consumed by idiots, so just make it illegal for them.:D
Suicide is Illegal? Who ever went to jail for committing suicide? All death is suicide. The persons put themselves in the position to be killed or bring it upon themselves. So everyone should be jailed?

[crie]

I think we should make the world less safe for idiots. Like, take the warning labels off of everything. If it's not obvious that it's dangerous, you're not smart enough to use it. If you do anyway, well you'll be helping society. :D

That said, when idiots get drunk they tend to kill innocent people too. :/
I like this, it's like the weakest link theory, all the idiots will kill off all the other idiots, and the smart people will sit at home laughing.
However, I started smoking at eight because I was copying my mom, and I totally regret it now. kicking it is said to be very much like kicking heroin. yuck.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Suicide is Illegal? Who ever went to jail for committing suicide? All death is suicide. The persons put themselves in the position to be killed or bring it upon themselves. So everyone should be jailed?

Well noone obviously went to jail who actually succeeded in the act, but I know that people have seen legal reporcussions from attempting it. Not so much jail as some sort of insanity asylum. And no, suicide is not something that is attempted by everyone. Sure, some of us take bigger chances than others, chances that just may well kill us, but that's not an attempt at suicide. An attempt at suicide has the intention of killing one's self involved. Smoking is proven to kill, and everyone knows it. All you have to do is smoke regularly and if something else doesn't kill you earlier smoking will. Smoking doesn't help anyone, it just makes those dumb enough to get addicted THINK that it helps them, and then they do it more often and start killing themselves faster. People aren't smart enough to realize this for themselves, especially the average person who is just starting smoking which is an underaged child. But making an age limit obviously isn't enough, so smoking needs to be made illegal.

[hkdbadreligion]

It will not be illegal, the government makes too much off of it... and it helps with population control... just like war... which the government also makes a lot off of.

[Chigun]

If it was made illegal it would be just like alcohol back in the day. People would grow their own tobacco leaves in basements or get it from other countries. All it would really do is increase "crime" by having more people arrested. There is plenty of anti-smoking propaganda out there to warn the average Joe, not to mention the high prices of the smokes.

[General Septem]

If it was made illegal it would be just like alcohol back in the day. People would grow their own tobacco leaves in basements or get it from other countries. All it would really do is increase "crime" by having more people arrested. There is plenty of anti-smoking propaganda out there to warn the average Joe, not to mention the high prices of the smokes.
I don't think so, particularly since your average smoker isn't about to do it illegally, and there's really no enjoyment from smoking.

[Chigun]

You have a good point. On the other hand though taken how flat out addicting tobacco is (more so than many many drugs) the current heavy smokers would no doubt cause all hell. It is true that most addicted smokers want to stop though, so perhaps we could make cigs illegal and sell the gum at much cheaper prices. Still a shaky idea but I'm not against it. Sadly it won't be happening anytime soon.

Also if cigs were taken out chewing tobacco would most likely have to fall with it. (Mouth cancers, loss of teeth, and so on) as well as cigars (many will inhale). Really it would be a huge mess shifting America from complete tobacco freedom to absolute zero, so I'm not seeing it despite how much it would help people.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Also if cigs were taken out chewing tobacco would most likely have to fall with it. (Mouth cancers, loss of teeth, and so on) as well as cigars (many will inhale). Really it would be a huge mess shifting America from complete tobacco freedom to absolute zero, so I'm not seeing it despite how much it would help people.

I don't see any reason to take away chewing tobacco. My problem with smoking is the affect it has on those who don't want anything to do with it. Chewing tobacco, though still very detrimental to the user, has no adverse affects on others unless it is disposed of improperly which is basically littering and illegal anyways. Sure, I'd be happier if none of that stuff ever existed but we need to realize when we're trying to take away more than we have the right to.

[hkdbadreligion]

Removing tobacco will never happen because it helps the economy. People buy tobacco, tobacco causes disease, people get medicines, or treatment, for the disease, disease kills person, more money is spent for the funeral, more media coverage because people are dying from it, kids see the media and start doing it because "its cool to put yourself in danger", and the cycle repeats.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Removing tobacco will never happen because it helps the economy. People buy tobacco, tobacco causes disease, people get medicines, or treatment, for the disease, disease kills person, more money is spent for the funeral, more media coverage because people are dying from it, kids see the media and start doing it because "its cool to put yourself in danger", and the cycle repeats.

The economy will do just fine without tobacco. People see te positive effects it will have on their life and neglect what bad effects that it has on others. Once tobacco is removed the economy will find something else to stabalize the loss of its positive effects. This is inevitable because if the positive effects are needed, then we will find other ways to obtain them. Relate it to this example, if in the morning you find out that your dog chewed up your work shoes, you're not going to just miss work. (Those of us who can't afford to miss work anyways.) You'll find SOMETHING that will take their place, at least until you can get them replaced. The economy will react the same way. It might look bad at the beginning, but I am confident that everything will undoubtebly work out in the end. And things will eventually get better too. Hell, everyone's happy to wear their new shoes when they get them right?

[hkdbadreligion]

The government, however so true your statement is, more than likely isnt willing to risk such a drop in the economy, no matter how short it might be.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

The government, however so true your statement is, more than likely isnt willing to risk such a drop in the economy, no matter how short it might be.


In that case, they ought to prepare something that will stabalize the economy ahead of time, and have it started already when the drop is made.

[lazygirl9]

:rolleyes: this is how i see it, at the end of the day everybody does whatever they want to do. yea people are going to tell you don't do this or do do that but it comes down to what we decide to do. and the sad reality is that almost all teenagers either drink or get high. all you fake "perfect children" are bullshit. i know that when you say "ima be at a friend's mom" or "ima be at the movies" its all BULLSHIT! how do i know? cause im a teen myself. but dont get me wrong i aint just any teen. i have a lot of wisdom and mental strength. there is a difference, big difference, between a teen that says "fuck it ima get high" or "fuck it ima get drunk today" and a teen that probably doesn't have a lot of logic or reason for doing it but isn't "stupid" with it. alot of teens can't even control their highs or their buzzes and sometimes when i witness this i think to myself what the fuck are they doing? they dont belong here. im a pot smoker myself and seriously it aint that bad compared to many other drugs. and no i aint in denial and i aint addicted i could stop whenever i want just why? it hasn't fucked with my education and my mind isn't "lost" ,i have dreams that i one day wish to accomplish, to be honest marijuana has made my mentality alot stronger and fuck it as long as it dont take control of me and all these years it hasnt so if they want to legalize it, i say fuck it. :D

[General Septem]

I think the world needs to be nuked. All the dipshits just need to be wiped out and stop infecting society. Or at the very least, a lot of people need to be sterilized and removed from society.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

:rolleyes: this is how i see it, at the end of the day everybody does whatever they want to do. yea people are going to tell you don't do this or do do that but it comes down to what we decide to do. and the sad reality is that almost all teenagers either drink or get high. all you fake "perfect children" are bullshit. i know that when you say "ima be at a friend's mom" or "ima be at the movies" its all BULLSHIT! how do i know? cause im a teen myself.

You're wrong, when I was a teen I never once even tried marijuana. As far as drinking goes, on special occasions my parents might have let me have a glass of something, but other than that I think I only had any alcohol once or twice. And I know plenty of people who were more strict about these issues than I was, mostly because they had stronger moral values on these issues.



but dont get me wrong i aint just any teen. i have a lot of wisdom and mental strength.

Well, if that were true you're definately not convincing me with your writing abilities, it has been difficult to follow your post because of punctuation, spelling and rambling. Some key identifiers that the marijuana may already be taking its toll on your mind.



im a pot smoker myself and seriously it aint that bad compared to many other drugs.

That's a poor argument. It's like saying killing the teacher that gave you an 'F' aint that bad compared to going on a shooting rampage through the school. It's still bad, you're just comparing it to things that are even worse in an attempt to dodge the issue that you still shouldn't be doing it. Needless to say, marijuana has long been called the "gateway drug," because the people who do the worse drugs started out with marijuana, and then went to find something stronger because marijuana just wasn't "doing it" for them anymore.



and no i aint in denial and i aint addicted i could stop whenever i want just why? it hasn't fucked with my education and my mind isn't "lost" ,i have dreams that i one day wish to accomplish, to be honest marijuana has made my mentality alot stronger and fuck it as long as it dont take control of me and all these years it hasnt so if they want to legalize it, i say fuck it. :D


Your diluding yourself. You may think that it is making your mentality stronger, but I'm certain that this is just an illusion of your own mind. You may think that it hasn't taken control of you, but there's only one true way to prove that, and I don't think that you have the strength to do it. You can say that you do, but there's only one true way to convince me. The longer you ignore the problems that it is creating for you, (whether you realize them or not,) the worse they're going to get.

Dope on and Dupe out!

[hkdbadreligion]

BBO- to your earlier statement... there would still be an economic loss if the govn't dropped tobacco and they want all they can get.
G.S.- Agreed. Nuke the world
LazyGirl- Shut the fuck up and burn in hell.

[lazygirl9]

First Of All I Didn't Purposely Make Grammatical Mistakes On My Comment, Im Just Making A Comment On My Computer, I Aint Writing A Book. That Goes To Show How Many People Try Too Hard To Be Perfect And To Hkdbadreligion, If You Want Me To Burn In Hell Without Knowing Who The Fuck I Am, Then You Most Definitely Are From A Bad Religion.

[hkdbadreligion]

That was pretty lame.

[Ape-Shit]

No matter what you smoke, smoking is stupid! It might look Kool, but to do it makes you a Fool. Inhale that breath and crust your lungs. Your kiss of death has just begun. So go ahead and let your insides rot out, another smoke will reinsure your dought. Smoke, smoke, smoke and suck it in your head. A day will come, and you will be dead! So go ahead and smoke my friend, another day will come and it will be the end.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Great poem! Truth to the limit as well!

[Ape-Shit]

A few words of encouragement for you; Life is Short! You are not going to agree with everybody on every issue (of course you all ready know this) with whom you confront. That is a normal thing, however if you sincerely believe in something and it is set in your mind and heart as well, then to you it is so.

If you believe in something and to you it is so, then follow your beliefs and your heart. Remember, you don't have to agree when you think it is not right, but respect the ideas and thoughts of others whom dissagree.

Right or wrong it doesn't matter, its what YOU believe in, as an individual ....that matters.

As you see, we agree on some things and dissagree on others, thats ok! Its just how we perceive it to be. Again, thanks for the commit.

[REPTILE]

Fuck smoking in general, Fuck drinking (unless its NORMAL drinking like kicking back a few at a BBQ), and Fuck drugs. Forget all the economy and decision B.S. I believe in freedom but as far as drugs and cig's go they can get banned for all i care. Would do a whole world of good, literally.

[beelzebub]

Fuck smoking in general, Fuck drinking (unless its NORMAL drinking like kicking back a few at a BBQ), and Fuck drugs. Forget all the economy and decision B.S. I believe in freedom but as far as drugs and cig's go they can get banned for all i care. Would do a whole world of good, literally.

You are crazy?

Here are a few drugs to consider: Asprin, oxycontin, erythromycin, tamoxifen citrate. Where will you draw the line and why? Whatever happened to personal freedom and choice?

[REPTILE]

Well, i guess i should have been more specific. As far as drugs go i meant illegal drugs ppl buy off the street to get high, not drugs that many ppl use do to medical reasons. My G-Father for instance uses Oxycontin and some other stuff do to the strong pains he gets every now and again. But I think ppl abuse this countrys freedoms (or whats left of them) and get high off illegal stuff. That causes problems, death, etc... If you decide to do "illegal" drugs and thyre not available, then too bad. If only negative things will come from it then fuck it, dont need it, dont want it. Drugs arent a choice, theyre nothing more than useless problem makers that fuck up ppls lives.

[Ape-Shit]

I agree with you Reppie...! Illegal drugs are for the dopes. They only destroy lives and families.

On the other hand, Beelzebub has a good point on the use of prescription and over the counter meds. I know you didn't mean any harm with your earlier commits.

[REPTILE]

:D lol, hey thanks Ape!:D

[who897]

Excersize, Eat right, still die..........Your arguement holds about as much water as a fishing net.

[Brains_Behind_Operation]

Your understanding is not grasping the entire concept. Your comment is much more accurate as this:

Excersize, eat right, live longer, happier and more successful life, still die - but with more to show for yourself in the end.

[who897]

Your understanding is not grasping the entire concept. Your comment is much more accurate as this:

Excersize, eat right, live longer, happier and more successful life, still die - but with more to show for yourself in the end.


What do you have to show at the end except your self in a coffen w/ a tux on. Life is to short to be burdened by the hassle of pushing ourselves to do something. People (at least in my point of view) that work out are just insecure of their own body....unless your a fat dump then get your ass on a damn tredmill. Plus if you don't take care of your body, you get to die earlier, which works out cuz then you get to miss all those shitty years of not being able to walk, not being able to wipe your own butt, not being able to live in your own home cuz your a convolecent.....

[General Septem]

What do you have to show at the end except your self in a coffen w/ a tux on. Life is to short to be burdened by the hassle of pushing ourselves to do something. People (at least in my point of view) that work out are just insecure of their own body....unless your a fat dump then get your ass on a damn tredmill. Plus if you don't take care of your body, you get to die earlier, which works out cuz then you get to miss all those shitty years of not being able to walk, not being able to wipe your own butt, not being able to live in your own home cuz your a convolecent.....
Actually, it's the people that don't take care of themselves that end up not being able to walk. The people that take care of themselves are usually fit right up until the end.

[rawsugar]

No matter what you smoke, smoking is stupid! It might look Kool, but to do it makes you a Fool. Inhale that breath and crust your lungs. Your kiss of death has just begun. So go ahead and let your insides rot out, another smoke will reinsure your dought. Smoke, smoke, smoke and suck it in your head. A day will come, and you will be dead! So go ahead and smoke my friend, another day will come and it will be the end.

I bet you're 'down with the kids'

[REPTILE]

Exercise, Eat Right, and have more range of motion, less pain and limited mobility later on in life, can still have a sex life with your partner (hopefully you and your "sweetheart" will still be together), live longer, feel better, look better, HELL I SAY ITS WOTH IT. For trading a portion of your couch potato time doing something good for yourself it'll be well woth it.

*Who897 - "I bet you're 'down with the kids"

Are you really 16 Who897? The way you put that makes you sound like your 50.

[rawsugar]

*Who897 - "I bet you're 'down with the kids"

Are you really 16 Who897? The way you put that makes you sound like your 50.

I said that not Who897, and its called sarcasm.

[who897]

25, but not quite sure what age has gotta do w/ Mexican Tea Cupping...

[REPTILE]

LOL, sorry Who897! I made a mistake, didn't realize it was rawsugar (my bad).

[who897]

I am down with the 18yr old and aboves though.