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[ohreally]

Okay religious folk, vote for one of these three candidates. I based these off two well known leaders. One was thrown in for fun :P (the 3rd one obviously)

Candidate #1
-Christian
-Believes he acts with accordance with the Almighty Creator
-Believes he is a fighter for God
-Must establish in law what he believes God wants.

Candidate #2
-Christian
-Believes that we need to create equal grounds with society.
-Believes even if we have to create equal grounds with society, that such a deity will redeem us.
-Supports abortion rights.

Candidate #3
-Satan

Take your pick. It's not a lot of info - but just take this as a basis for who you'd choose.

[Ausinus]

Ummm. Thats a tough one.

Either candidate 2 or Satan. :D

It depends, does candidate 2 believe in separation of church and state?

[ajk]

Candidate 1. Candidate 2 is good for the most part, but he's for abortion. So he's out. And Candidate 3, well the less said about him the better.

[ohreally]

Candidate 1. Candidate 2 is good for the most part, but he's for abortion. So he's out. And Candidate 3, well the less said about him the better.
Haha I didn't think you'd vote for Candidate 3 :p

Anyhow it looks like you dismissed Bill Clinton for Adolf Hitler.
That's a shame.

[ajk]

Oh is this what that was all about then? I thought something seemed fishy about this whole thing.

[ohreally]

Oh is this what that was all about then? I thought something seemed fishy about this whole thing.
What's so fishy about this? You voted for Hitler :p

[General Septem]

What's so fishy about this? You voted for Hitler :p

Hitler was no longer Catholic when the Holocaust took place. He if anything may have used that as a tool for the public, but he was no Christian. If he did believe in a God, it was not a God sanctioned by any organized religion I am aware of to date.

If 1 and 2 are both politicians, what choices do we have? It's either 90% Satan, 90% Satan, or option 3 which is 100% Satan. :D

[theicidal maniac]

Hitler was no longer Catholic when the Holocaust took place. He if anything may have used that as a tool for the public, but he was no Christian. If he did believe in a God, it was not a God sanctioned by any organized religion I am aware of to date.

If 1 and 2 are both politicians, what choices do we have? It's either 90% Satan, 90% Satan, or option 3 which is 100% Satan. :D

OH YEAH?!
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

[theicidal maniac]

AND...
“The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.” –Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf

[General Septem]

OH YEAH?!
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

I'll say again: If he did believe in a God, it was not a God sanctioned by any organized religion I am aware of to date.

Perhaps he identified himself as a "Christian" but he wasn't a Catholic.

[Ausinus]

It was Jehovah, the Christian god, the same one which inspires fundamentalists to blow up abortion clinics.

[General Septem]

It was Jehovah, the Christian god, the same one which inspires fundamentalists to blow up abortion clinics.

Just because someone blows up a building for God's sake does not mean God is pleased by it. It would be like if some atheist went around killing pregnant women for your sake because he thought you were pro-abortion.

[theicidal maniac]

Just because someone blows up a building for God's sake does not mean God is pleased by it. It would be like if some atheist went around killing pregnant women for your sake because he thought you were pro-abortion.

But the fact that you can even USE scripture to justify it PROVES that it is not a book of peace and love. Don't you get it?

[theicidal maniac]

I'll say again: If he did believe in a God, it was not a God sanctioned by any organized religion I am aware of to date.

Perhaps he identified himself as a "Christian" but he wasn't a Catholic.

Well what about Cardinal Richelieu? That guys was fucking ruthless and was directly affiliated with the catholic faith ;)

[General Septem]

Well what about Cardinal Richelieu? That guys was fucking ruthless and was directly affiliated with the catholic faith ;)

And? I'll say it again:

Just because someone blows up a building for God's sake does not mean God is pleased by it. It would be like if some atheist went around killing pregnant women for your sake because he thought you were pro-abortion.



But the fact that you can even USE scripture to justify it ...

You can't, without ignoring quotes like "thou shall not commit murder", "judge not, lest ye be judged," and "let the man who has never sinned cast the first stone".

And even at that you can only "justify" anything by paraphrasing obscure quotes out of context, and cutting out other parts in between them.

By the way, evolution has been used to justify killings as well. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold of the Columbine shootings believed they were right to kill jocks because they believed they were higher evolved than they were. In addition, they heavily targeted Christians in their attack. So please kindly lay off on the fucking shit.

[MrBirdy]

well, maybe we have mis-judged satan, lets face it , he has been on the election plate for a few hundred years, maybe he has changed...