god vs. truth

[MrBirdy]

ok, so i decided to put a poll, instead of just the thread...

should we allow god in our schools, and create problems like censorship?


-OR-

Should we go and get rid of the creator, and cancel out the beliefs of the majority

I think this shall be quite picant, i myself dont believe we should allow church in our schools

i am athiest...

[Ausinus]

Fuck no, we dont need any god, or creationism in our schools. Otherwise we'd have to let the other pesudosciences like alchemy, astrology and phrenology in too.

[MrBirdy]

Fuck no, we dont need any god, or creationism in our schools. Otherwise we'd have to let the other pesudosciences like alchemy, astrology and phrenology in too.

Vote then!!

[Ausinus]

I already did mate!

[MrBirdy]

I already did mate!

i bet your hot!! and im not gay to say that!!

[Ausinus]

Hm? No no no. Im not hot. Im just your average australian joe. Except not of average age. :D

[who897]

Unless the temp in Australia is way up there, then you'd be hot. Sorta like how I'm cold right now. :D

[Ausinus]

Yeah its like 38 degrees in australia. But im in seattle so the weather here is a bitch.

[who897]

Yeah its like 38 degrees in australia. But im in seattle so the weather here is a bitch.

Is that F or C....cause 38 F is fairly cool.

[Ausinus]

Its celsius.

[who897]

Figures, but if you are in seattle should stop trying to confuse us americans w/ those metric and european measurements. :D

[Ausinus]

I dont care your system sucks.

[who897]

That is a matter of opinion. Of which I am forced to not agree with. I mean it's easy to tell the difference between an inch, a foot and a yard...but a decimeter and dememeter, who know's which is what in what fraction of 10.

[Ausinus]

Fine, keep your outdated system. I mean, metric is way better for scientific measurement because its based on tens.

[who897]

Fine, keep your outdated system. I mean, metric is way better for scientific measurement because its based on tens.

And a rule of thumb is way better for beating wives.

[Ausinus]

And a rule of thumb is way better for beating wives.

Thats stupid. I mean what if a guy has really thick thumbs?

Metric is waaaaay better than Imperial.

[who897]

Thats stupid. I mean what if a guy has really thick thumbs?

Metric is waaaaay better than Imperial.

That's like saying red is better then blue. It's a matter of opinion, and we like our inches, feet, yards, leagues, shots, miles, ferenheit, cups, teaspoons, tablespoons etc etc etc.

[LolPwned]

Even though I am christian, I think we do not need god in our schools, because we need to be equal to everyone. People can follow their own faith if they wish.

[freakazoid]

Fuck no, we dont need any god, or creationism in our schools. Otherwise we'd have to let the other pesudosciences like alchemy, astrology and phrenology in too. http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon13.gif

A nation that rejects God will die.

[LolPwned]

Like that person Ausinus said, all nations fail eventually. You dont need to have prayer in schools to save yourself.

[who897]

http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon13.gif

A nation that rejects God will die.


Hey you forgot the comma...A nation that rejects, god will die...and I can't wait for that to happen cuz all these crazy religious folks need to depart for Iran or something.

[Ausinus]

Damn straight mate.

[thememan]

Allow religion taught in school(As in the ideaologies, not the histories)? No, not at all. Dissallow religious practice and speech that does not interupt school, and is not endorsed by the school? No, definately not. First Amendment and all that jazz. As long as it adheres to school policy on disturbing school functions, it is not doing any harm.

[Ausinus]

It needs to stay out, period. especially in primary schools. Kids are very impressionable.

[thememan]

It needs to stay out, period. especially in primary schools. Kids are very impressionable.

What I meant was if a student wants to pray in school, whatever. If a teacher wants to lead a class prayer, however, that's a different story.

[General Septem]

It needs to stay out, period. especially in primary schools. Kids are very impressionable.

Then atheism needs to stay out, period.

[Ausinus]

What I meant was if a student wants to pray in school, whatever. If a teacher wants to lead a class prayer, however, that's a different story.

No no, I dont mean like keep private prayer and stuff out. You can pray to yourself if you want, but no group prayers or religious ideology.

[Ausinus]

Then atheism needs to stay out, period.

How is atheism in? They dont teach god doesnt exist. Schools are secular places, not atheist places. They dont deny the existence of god, or cast religion as anything but a choice of personal faith, which it is.

[thememan]

No no, I dont mean like keep private prayer and stuff out. You can pray to yourself if you want, but no group prayers or religious ideology.

Even at that, as long as it does not disrupt school preceedings(And faculty is not involved DURING schools hours/events) I see no real problem with it. Really, if it doesn't involve students standing on tables during lunch and preaching, and other such things, I see no need to worry about it.

[General Septem]

Even at that, as long as it does not disrupt school preceedings(And faculty is not involved DURING schools hours/events) I see no real problem with it. Really, if it doesn't involve students standing on tables during lunch and preaching, and other such things, I see no need to worry about it.

Actually the preaching might be a good lesson in confidence and/or public speaking. :D

[General Septem]

How is atheism in? They dont teach god doesnt exist. Schools are secular places, not atheist places. They dont deny the existence of god, or cast religion as anything but a choice of personal faith, which it is.

By keeping religion out, they deliver the impression to our youth that it's a bad thing.

[Ausinus]

Ok, have you actually ever been to a school where they have religion? Do you know what its like? People are excluded based upon their faith, and we shouldnt tolerate that sort of thing.

[General Septem]

Ok, have you actually ever been to a school where they have religion? Do you know what its like? People are excluded based upon their faith, and we shouldnt tolerate that sort of thing.

I know several non-Catholics that have gone to Catholic school.

[Ausinus]

I take that as a no.

If we allow religion into our schools, not only does it exclude people who are not of the dominant religion, but it creates segregation, which is illegal. It also acts as poorly concealed prosyletism by the dominant religion. At least leaving schools secular creates the neutral ground.

[ajk]

I take that as a no.

If we allow religion into our schools, not only does it exclude people who are not of the dominant religion, but it creates segregation, which is illegal. It also acts as poorly concealed prosyletism by the dominant religion. At least leaving schools secular creates the neutral ground.

Did you not read what he said? He said he's known several non Catholics who went to Catholic school. I as well know one who did that. So what you said is inaccurate based on this.

[General Septem]

I take that as a no.

If we allow religion into our schools, not only does it exclude people who are not of the dominant religion, but it creates segregation, which is illegal. It also acts as poorly concealed prosyletism by the dominant religion. At least leaving schools secular creates the neutral ground.

No, actually I have been to a Catholic school, and your statement about people being excluded because of faith is wholly and entirely false. In fact my teacher was an ex-nun turned bull-dyke lesbian, and the principal was her girlfriend (likewise an ex-nun).

Besides the fact that I even know a Catholic in Catholic school who is actually picked on by her Protestant (and Pagan for that matter) peers for being Catholic, as well as at least two atheists, a goth (not sure what her religion is), two Pagans, a Lutheran, and several other non-Catholics that I can't think of off the top of my head who all went to Catholic school, and most of whom I'm friends with.

By the way, you would do well to visit www.firefox.com and download Firefox 2.0. It comes with a spell checker which you might find useful. :D

[who897]

I know several non-Catholics that have gone to Catholic school.


I was forced to go to a catholic school....what a crock of shit school that was. Because I wouldn't pray w/ the class I was thrown outta the class or given extra assignments to "correct my defficency" as they saw it. Shit like this has no place in a public school. If the tarts wanna pray before they eat their lunch, let them I suppose. Like any public service provided by the state, religion has no place....which I love NJ (or the town I lived in) because they will not provide any funding to religious schools for the transportation of children to and fro.

[thememan]

Actually the preaching might be a good lesson in confidence and/or public speaking. :D

Alright, I'm going to preach my agnostic agenda then...

Wait... what is the agnostic agenda? :p

[theicidal maniac]

Hey look what Genny said;


"You have to be a Christian to get into Heaven, but that doesn't mean non-Christians can't get into Heaven."

Everyone laugh at him. HA HA HA HA

[who897]

I can't stop laughing at some of the stuff the christians write so it would be totally redundent if I stated that I was laughing now.

[MrBirdy]

That is a matter of opinion. Of which I am forced to not agree with. I mean it's easy to tell the difference between an inch, a foot and a yard...but a decimeter and dememeter, who know's which is what in what fraction of 10.

1/10 on everything is easyer than 1/16 1/12 1/3 1/2558 & 1/4 1/8

[General Septem]

Looks like you atheist fucks are outnumbered thus far. :D

[MrBirdy]

Looks like you atheist fucks are outnumbered thus far. :D

well, your right, usually the smart people end up being outnumbered by idiots who's credibility is nothing, and whos beliefs are blurry at best

General, i dont think a conservative anarchist has a right to say that we are wrong....

[who897]

1/10 on everything is easyer than 1/16 1/12 1/3 1/2558 & 1/4 1/8

So the metric system is for lazy minds now is it? I happen to find it easier to judge things by inches and feet. It works well for me.

[MrBirdy]

So the metric system is for lazy minds now is it? I happen to find it easier to judge things by inches and feet. It works well for me.

that is only becouse you are used to it.
Should you not know either, you would pick up the metric system before you would the english

[who897]

that is only becouse you are used to it.
Should you not know either, you would pick up the metric system before you would the english

Considering the English language is one of the hardest to learn and master in the world I would think so.

As for picking the metric system that goes back to the laziness issue again.

[Ausinus]

You just dont like it cos its french. :p

[who897]

That could definatly be a contributing factor. Or that I like to mantain my image as a pig headed, always right, arragont american. :D

[Ausinus]

Well one day this country is going to have to convert to metric.

[Nobody]

[QUOTE=who897]Considering the English language is one of the hardest to learn and master in the world I would think so.

....Thats not a true statement. The International language is the english language. Ask any one that holds a pilots license. All commercial airports, from the tower to the pilot speak english. The basic language itself,is easier than any other. Its the slang that people have to master.

[Nobody]

that is only becouse you are used to it.
Should you not know either, you would pick up the metric system before you would the english
...Metric. Thats my final answer!

[Ausinus]

....Thats not a true statement. The International language is the english language. Ask any one that holds a pilots license. All commercial airports, from the tower to the pilot speak english. The basic language itself,is easier than any other. Its the slang that people have to master.

No it is true. The english language is highly phonetic, with a lot of grammatical exceptions. Unless its your native, then it can be one of the hardest to learn. Here's an example.

Compare the stresses in these words. Finite, infinite, infinity. It can be very confusing for non english speakers.

[Nobody]

Well one day this country is going to have to convert to metric.
...I believe thats right. If anyone has ever put a wrench on the vehicles we drive now days. Everything is metric. Except screw drivers. Are they standard or metric?

[MrBirdy]

...I believe thats right. If anyone has ever put a wrench on the vehicles we drive now days. Everything is metric. Except screw drivers. Are they standard or metric?
they are neither they go by "SIZE"

[Nobody]

they are neither they go by "SIZE"
....yea, I know. I thought I would just throw that in.

[General Septem]

You just dont like it cos its french. :p

As hard as English is, I think French is worse. Maybe the second worst. :D

[who897]

Just about every other language has a strict structure to adhere to. In english you can have several different ways to say the same thing and all of them being correct. (it's also fun listening to someone who doesn't know the language get up set and try and speak english really fast :D )
Nothing comming outta detroit is metric. Except for the bottom part of the Speedometer.

[Ausinus]

As hard as English is, I think French is worse. Maybe the second worst. :D

I like french, Its a language of culture. Mind you, I like all romance languages, they have more of a flow than our germanic tongue.

[MrBirdy]

I like french, Its a language of culture. Mind you, I like all romance languages, they have more of a flow than our germanic tongue.

I agree with that one, Italian is good too...

[Ausinus]

Yup. Romance languages make lovely opera languages dont you think?

Im still surprised Mozart made such a good opera using German. :D

[MrBirdy]

Yup. Romance languages make lovely opera languages dont you think?

Im still surprised Mozart made such a good opera using German. :D

well, i really dont think the language is as important as the voice and talent...

Qait why are talking bout opera, i thought we were talking bout religion in the school system

[who897]

well, i really dont think the language is as important as the voice and talent...

Qait why are talking bout opera, i thought we were talking bout religion in the school system

Because the French don't shave :D

[MrBirdy]

Because the French don't shave :D

French women shave...

[Ausinus]

I love french women:D

[who897]

French women shave...
And I am a pregnant nun :D

[Ausinus]

Well start praying and having ultrasounds sister.:D

[who897]

Well start praying and having ultrasounds sister.:D
Strange, I didn't feel sick this morning :D

I didn't feel like starting a new thread for this, but yall gotta try the Doritos Blazin' Buffalo and Ranch Chips....ohh man it's like an orgasim in every chip.

[Ausinus]

Organism in every chip? Omg, Doritos is people!:eek:

[who897]

Organism in every chip? Omg, Doritos is people!:eek:

Did I forget to meantion I'm a cannible :D

[Ausinus]

Or maybe just a bad speller :D

BURN. Ausinus 7, Who 1. lol

[MrBirdy]

Or maybe just a bad speller :D

BURN. Ausinus 7, Who 1. lol

look, i know all about dorritos, and ive eaten flavors that dont even exist in USA, so dont tell me what taste like an oragasm
LOL

[thememan]

I like french, Its a language of culture. Mind you, I like all romance languages, they have more of a flow than our germanic tongue.

If you're talking about English, it's really a combination of several languages, such as French, Latin, Anglo-Saxon, and so forth.

[MrBirdy]

If you're talking about English, it's really a combination of several languages, such as French, Latin, Anglo-Saxon, and so forth.

We are talking about dorritos you deuch!!

[Ausinus]

If you're talking about English, it's really a combination of several languages, such as French, Latin, Anglo-Saxon, and so forth.

The vast majority of the Latin is via the old French.

In fact, most polysyllabic words are french in origin. The rest are anglo-saxon (more angle than saxon), which is essentially german.

You are right, there is some greek, and many loan words.

[MrBirdy]

that brings something up:
only rednecks reffer to south americans as latinos, since french people are also latin, and so are italians!!

[Ausinus]

French and italian people arent latins, they are barbarian people. The modern greeks are the closest you will get to romans.

[MrBirdy]

French and italian people arent latins, they are barbarian people. The modern greeks are the closest you will get to romans.
You know what i ment...

[Ausinus]

What? rednecks are stupid?

[MrBirdy]

What? rednecks are stupid?
they can fiddle way better than me...
and wittle too...

[who897]

they can fiddle way better than me...
and wittle too...

And make everything deep fried.

I agree the french are barbarians

And be very careful now, game is on.

[Ausinus]

Fa shizzle my nizzle.:D Random

[MrBirdy]

i feel black now...

[Ausinus]

That reminds me of this time in english, we did a parody of macbeth by speaking in ebonics.

"Like go tell yo angel bitch that macduff was untimely ripped from his mama's womb yo!"

[MrBirdy]

That reminds me of this time in english, we did a parody of macbeth by speaking in ebonics.

"Like go tell yo angel bitch that macduff was untimely ripped from his mama's womb yo!"

Laughing my ass off!!

send me a copy, if you have it!!

[Ausinus]

Nah it was a live play, no filming sorry mate.

[General Septem]

That reminds me of this time in english, we did a parody of macbeth by speaking in ebonics.

"Like go tell yo angel bitch that macduff was untimely ripped from his mama's womb yo!"

lmao, what would "to be or not to be" be in ebonics? :D

[who897]

lmao, what would "to be or not to be" be in ebonics? :D

Should I eat that?

[Ausinus]

No I think it was "to be or not to be, cos thats the question ya'll."

[who897]

No I think it was "to be or not to be, cos thats the question ya'll."


Ya'll is a southerner term. Like You's is a north east. It's whad it is, so what it be.... perhaps.

[Ausinus]

Hey I never said it was a good parody but it was funny.

[MrBirdy]

Hey I never said it was a good parody but it was funny.

There is no such thing as a good parody, its either funny, or its not, but all parody is bad parody, manigga!!

LOL

well, do you have a copy of the script?
i would love to read it ausie...

[Ausinus]

Nope, it was years ago lol. Back in the 7th grade. I think we got rid of them :D

[MrBirdy]

Nope, it was years ago lol. Back in the 7th grade. I think we got rid of them :D

I hate you!! my love...

[Ausinus]

I hate you!! my love...

Aww how sweet.:D

[theicidal maniac]

That reminds me of this time in english, we did a parody of macbeth by speaking in ebonics.

"Like go tell yo angel bitch that macduff was untimely ripped from his mama's womb yo!"

Ya know, using loan words from hip-hop albums does't mean you are speaking ebonics, yo. Ebonics is it's own language, with it's own grammar rules that are strictly and intuitively followed by the speakers. It still sounds funny, though, I'm just sayin.

[Ausinus]

Haha well we wouldnt know, we dont have very many black people.

[theicidal maniac]

Haha well we wouldnt know, we dont have very many black people.

That's a good point. Hadn't really thought of that. Ya know there is this Island off of OHIO (I think OHIO) in one of the Great Lakes called Tangiers Island. They were basically isolated for a few centuries and their "ENGLISH" is like nothing you've ever heard. You would never guess it was English. Craziest fuckin thing. I'm sure you can download a sound clip from PBS or from some linguist site like LSA...it's a riot.

[who897]

That's a good point. Hadn't really thought of that. Ya know there is this Island off of OHIO (I think OHIO) in one of the Great Lakes called Tangiers Island. They were basically isolated for a few centuries and their "ENGLISH" is like nothing you've ever heard. You would never guess it was English. Craziest fuckin thing. I'm sure you can download a sound clip from PBS or from some linguist site like LSA...it's a riot.

Couldn't find anything online about it...except a tangiers island off of VA