Live Video Link to BP Oil underwater Riser

[LedZap]

They have a saw going right now...

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[LedZap]

They started cutting a clamp and the saw bound up. When they tried to free it , it fell.

[LedZap]

A lot of stuff going on now...

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[LedZap]

So the Top Kill try has failed....this is really bad news.

[Rec]

So the Top Kill try has failed....this is really bad news.


Wonder if Obama will take credit for the failure as he has touted that the government is and has been in control and on top of
this whole thing since the beginning??? Sure he will,,,,,NOT!! lol

[LedZap]

Lools like they are getting ready to cut the riser off...they've got the saw out.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[freakazoid]

Lools like they are getting ready to cut the riser off...they've got the saw out.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

That's wild, man. Not quite sure what it is though. Is that one of the actual leaking drill rigs or valves?

[LedZap]

That's wild, man. Not quite sure what it is though. Is that one of the actual leaking drill rigs or valves?

Yeah , that's the riser on the top of the failed Blow Out Preventer. The pipes coming out of the top used to go straight up to the rig , but are now bent over towards the sunken rig. They are going to cut the pipes off and install a receiver on top of the BOP.Right now they are getting tools ready , there are 6 ROV subs down there.

[LedZap]

That's a pipe cutter , displayed right now...

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[LedZap]

They got the giant cutter going.

[LedZap]

They're cutting pipes ....http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[Limbo]

They're cutting pipes ....http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

The thing is above ground pipelines that carry oil have shut off valves spread out over the length of the pipe in case it leaks and the flow needs to be stopped. Apparently this underwater pipe has no other valves to control the flow, just the one at the very end where the explosion took place. That just seems crazy. Now they gotta try and cut the pipe itself so they can cap it with some kind of valve that they can shut off.

[LedZap]

They're bringing in the monster pipe cutter now. GIGANTIC.

[Carrot]

I wonder if anyone has done any calculations as to when the oil will run out in the reservoir.

Might be empty by the time they manage to cap it.

[LedZap]

This is going to make a real mess.

[Carrot]

Well, at leasts you can be sure this will lead to all rigs having aded safety features.

[LedZap]

Like BOP's that actually work.

[Rec]

Have no fear Obama is near with the federal lawyers ready to sue the heck out of the oil companies. Now if that much energy
could be put toward actually having ideas mechanically or otherwise to stop the flow, we could pat him on the back! NOT!!!!

[Limbo]

Have no fear Obama is near with the federal lawyers ready to sue the heck out of the oil companies. Now if that much energy
could be put toward actually having ideas mechanically or otherwise to stop the flow, we could pat him on the back! NOT!!!!

Yeah, you'd think they would at least wait until the flow is stopped before they start a politically motivated witch hunt. They are opening a criminal investigation already too I read somewhere. When people demanded that Obama do something, I don't think they meant for him to file a lawsuit!!

[Rec]

Yeah, you'd think they would at least wait until the flow is stopped before they start a politically motivated witch hunt. They are opening a criminal investigation already too I read somewhere.
My first thought was this is a way to recover some of the monies that have been given away with so much vigor by Obama! Nah, that would be
underhanded, and all that!!! uh huh! lol

[Limbo]

My first thought was this is a way to recover some of the monies that have been given away with so much vigor by Obama! Nah, that would be
underhanded, and all that!!! uh huh! lol

Does that pinhead Holder think that starting a criminal investigation while they are still trying to repair the leak is a good way to get cooperation from BP as they attempt to cap the leak? There will be plenty of time for fingerpointing AFTER the stinkin leak is stopped. Idiots.

[Rec]

Oh but the dang! progressives thrive on a crisis and really go all nutty with them, as is shown by the case in point! Normalcy is not in their
playbook. If it was, we would not be in the mess we are in, they like shaking things up for change, kinda like putting scrabble letters
in a Congress bag, shaking it up and pouring it out! Then shouting eureka!!! There is our plan!!!! They are all intellectual challenged
and do not even know it!!! gheesh

[LedZap]

It's the Lib Chicago way...never waste a good crisis.

[Rec]

Yup, and if there isn't a crisis, precipitate one!!!!! gangsta mentality!!! lol

[LedZap]

Cutting now , and making a big MESS

[MrJim]

They are opening a criminal investigation already too I read somewhere.

For real? I thought accidents didn't fit into criminal proceedings.

[LedZap]

They've got a diamond wire cutter on the riser now

[LedZap]

The diamond wire cutter is working.....and making a big mess.
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[Limbo]

For real? I thought accidents didn't fit into criminal proceedings.

Yep, for real.

Genius holder launches criminal probe in BP and oil spill (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/01/AR2010060103991.html?hpid=topnews)

[freakazoid]

Wow, that is fascinating to watch. I wonder how long it will take to complete? It goes without saying I guess that it all has to be done remotely?

[LedZap]

In about an hour (or less) from now they should be done cutting the pipe off , then they will attach a containment cover. And that should stop the leaking.

[freakazoid]

In about an hour (or less) from now they should be done cutting the pipe off , then they will attach a containment cover. And that should stop the leaking.

Cool, is that the only live web cam or are there other angles or other locations to watch?

[LedZap]

That's the only one. They're cutting that pipe off with a diamond wire.

[freakazoid]

That's the only one. They're cutting that pipe off with a diamond wire.

You can see it clearly. The stainless steal rig surrounding the back side of the oil valve is like a giant hack saw I guess cutting into the side of the valve. Very clear picture.

[LedZap]

Yeah , you can't really see the wire anymore ( cause of the oil ) but you can see the slot it's making and the oil spraying from the slot.

[freakazoid]

Yeah , you can't really see the wire anymore ( cause of the oil ) but you can see the slot it's making and the oil spraying from the slot.

It seems to be making progress. How long have they been working at it? How deep is that, do you know?

[LedZap]

It's a full mile underwater...very high pressure , VERY cold. They've been cutting that for over 2 hours now. I think they are having trouble with it. Diamond wire should cut that steel pipe way faster than that.

[freakazoid]

It's a full mile underwater...very high pressure , VERY cold. They've been cutting that for over 2 hours now. I think they are having trouble with it. Diamond wire should cut that steel pipe way faster than that.

Wow, over 5280 feet deep. That would make it about 2590 LBS per square inch! I wonder what would happen if the diamond saw broke? Could they slot another blade in the existing cut?

[LedZap]

I think that whole riser pipe is full of rubber and golf balls ( the shit they injected in there during the top kill operation ) and it's slowing down the saw.

[MrJim]

At this point, anything's a good idea and good progress. The two month timeframe sounded terrible.

[MrJim]

PORT FOURCHON, La. – The risky effort to contain the Gulf oil gusher hit a snag Wednesday when a saw became stuck in a thick pipe on a blown-out well in the Gulf of Mexico.

Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen said the goal was to free the saw and finish the cut later in the day. This is the latest attempt to contain — not plug — the nation's worst oil spill. The best chance at stopping the leak is still at least two months away.

With the new effort, however, BP PLC hoped to siphon to the surface the majority of the oil spewing into the Gulf.

"I don't think the issue is whether or not we can make the second cut. It's about how fine we can make it, how smooth we can make it," Allen said.

Engineers may have to bring in a second saw if the delay continues. Allen said once the cut is made, crews will inspect it and place a cap over the spill, which could happen as early as Wednesday.

The effort underwater was going on as oil drifted close to the Florida Panhandle's white sand beaches for the first time and investors ran from BP's stock for a second day, reacting to the company's failure to plug the leak by shooting mud and cement into the well, known as the top kill.

The Justice Department also has announced it started criminal and civil probes into the spill, although the department did not name specific targets for prosecution.

Shares in British-based BP PLC were down 3 percent Wednesday morning in London trading after a 13 percent fall the day before. BP has lost $75 billion in market value since the spill started with an April 20 oil rig explosion and analysts expect damage claims to total billions more.

In Florida, officials confirmed an oil sheen Tuesday about nine miles from Pensacola beach, where the summer tourism season was just getting started.

Winds were forecast to blow from the south and west, pushing the slick closer to western Panhandle beaches.

Emergency crews began scouring the beaches for oil and shoring up miles of boom. County officials will use it to block oil from reaching inland waterways but plan to leave beaches unprotected because they are too difficult to protect and easier to clean up.

"It's inevitable that we will see it on the beaches," said Keith Wilkins, deputy chief of neighborhood and community services for Escambia County.

The oil has been spreading in the Gulf since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded six weeks ago, killing 11 workers and eventually sinking. The rig was being operated for BP, the largest oil and gas producer in the Gulf.

Crude has already been reported along barrier islands in Alabama and Mississippi, and it has polluted some 125 miles of Louisiana coastline.

More federal fishing waters were closed, too, another setback for one of the region's most important industries. More than one-third of federal waters were off-limits for fishing, along with hundreds of square miles of state waters.

Fisherman Hong Le, who came to the U.S. from Vietnam, had rebuilt his home and business after Hurricane Katrina wiped him out. Now he's facing a similar situation.

"I'm going to be bankrupt very soon," Le, 53, said as he attended a meeting for fishermen hoping for help. "Everything is financed, how can I pay? No fishing, no welding. I weld on commercial fishing boats and they aren't going out now, so nothing breaks."

Le, like other of the fishermen, received $5,000 from BP PLC, but it was quickly gone.

"I call that 'Shut your mouth money,'" said Murray Volk, 46, of Empire, who's been fishing for nearly 30 years. "That won't pay the insurance on my boat and house. They say there'll be more later, but do you think the electric company will wait for that?"

BP may have bigger problems, though.

Attorney General Eric Holder, who visited the Gulf on Tuesday, would not say who might be targeted in the probes into the largest oil spill in U.S. history.

"We will closely examine the actions of those involved in the spill. If we find evidence of illegal behavior, we will be extremely forceful in our response," Holder said in New Orleans.

The federal government also ramped up its response to the spill with President Barack Obama ordering the co-chairmen of an independent commission investigating the spill to thoroughly examine the disaster, "to follow the facts wherever they lead, without fear or favor."

The president said that if laws are insufficient, they'll be changed. He said that if government oversight wasn't tough enough, that will change, too.

BP has tried and failed repeatedly to halt the flow of the oil, and the latest attempt like others has never been tried before a mile beneath the ocean. Experts warned it could be even riskier than the others because slicing open the 20-inch riser could unleash more oil if there was a kink in the pipe that restricted some of the flow.

"It is an engineer's nightmare," said Ed Overton, a Louisiana State University professor of environmental sciences. "They're trying to fit a 21-inch cap over a 20-inch pipe a mile away. That's just horrendously hard to do. It's not like you and I standing on the ground pushing — they're using little robots to do this."

Engineers have put underwater robots and equipment in place this week after a bold attempt to plug the well by force-feeding it heavy mud and cement — called a "top kill" — was aborted over the weekend. Crews pumped thousands of gallons of the mud into the well but were unable to overcome the pressure of the oil.

The company said if the small dome is successful it could capture and siphon a majority of the gushing oil to the surface. But the cut and cap will not halt the oil flow, just capture some of it and funnel it to vessels waiting at the surface.

BP's best chance to permanently plug the leak rests with a pair of relief wells but those won't likely be completed until August.

[freakazoid]

Check it out. Frightening stuff..

http://www.bullshit.com/showthread.php?6927-Kind-of-brings-it-home!

[LedZap]

The sad part is that off shore oil production is safe , as long as it's done according to the designs of the operation. It's only when the corporations in charge try to take short cuts that shit like this happens.

[LedZap]

They've got the cap ready to install now. The methanol line is on and running...

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[Patt]

Sung to the tune of Karma Chameleon ----
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw

Business Regs in your eyes all the way.
If I listen to your lies would you say
You're a man without conviction,
You're a man who doesn't know
how to lead in a crisis.
Obama's got to go, he's got to go.

Cappa, cappa, cappa, cappa, cappa that big assed hole
It spewed so long - it spewed so long
The clean up won't be easy but Jindal is on the scene
Scrape 'till it's green, don't leave a sheen

Don't hear your wicked words every day
and you used to be so sweet, I heard you say
that our oil was an addiction.
When we drill their profit's strong.
When they go they'll be gone forever.
Take Salazar along, get Janet a bong.

Cappa, cappa, cappa, cappa, cappa that big assed hole
It spewed so long - it spewed so long
The clean up won't be easy but Jindal is on the scene
Scrape 'till it's green, don't leave a sheen

Every day on the coast is survival,
you're our President, not our rival.
Every day on the coast is survival,
you're our President, not our rival.

You're a man without conviction,
You're a man who doesn't know
how to lead in a crisis.
Obama's got to go, it's not a show.

Cappa, cappa, cappa, cappa, cappa that big assed hole
It spewed so long - it spewed so long
The clean up won't be easy but Jindal is on the scene
Scrape 'till it's green, don't leave a sheen

[Patt]

Am I the only one mesmerized by this bad boy #4 cap sloooooooowly lowering down to the blow out?

Is there an audio feed to this thing anywhere?

[LedZap]

It's awesome technology. There's no audio that I know of.

[Patt]

It's awesome technology. There's no audio that I know of.

That would be so cool, wouldn't it --- stuff like - hey man, that lines hooked - grab that - LOL

[LedZap]

There's hundreds of engineers all working on this right now.

[Carrot]

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/worst_case_scenario.png

arghhhhhhhhhhh

[Patt]

There's hundreds of engineers all working on this right now.

Looks like we're getting the 'blue' lines out of the way. Warm sea water perhaps to aid with not freezing up inside the cap? Green stuff - dispersents perhaps?

[Patt]

Carville riding a burning alligator - now that I'd LOVE to see !!

[LedZap]

They should be capping it soon.

[LedZap]

Looks like we're getting the 'blue' lines out of the way. Warm sea water perhaps to aid with not freezing up inside the cap? Green stuff - dispersents perhaps?

Here's an animation that shows what's happening...

http://bp.concerts.com/gom/lmrp6_060310.htm

[LedZap]

They put the cap on...but I don't think things are working out. This looks bad.

[Rec]

Nature by itself cannot make the mess that mankind can, it seems......What is left, a contained nuclear blast?????? Scary stuff!!!!

[LedZap]

They have to make a better cap , that seals better. And drill those relief wells.

[Patt]

That is one forceful well, isn't it? Gusher from Hell would be a very good name for it.

No, it doesn't look good.

[LedZap]

Yeah , that cap is no good. They're gonna have to try something else , and the shit will hit the fan tomorrow when this comes out.

[Patt]

Did you guys hear that Russia had nuked an deep sea well to contain it some years ago? That was gas though.

Some are calling for that. Won't that be a bitch if Obama has to be the guy to okay setting off a nuke? Do you guys remember that when he was in that class and there was a nuclear strike coming into the US and he couldn't make the decision?

[Patt]

Nifty little gadget --- gulf oil spill meter from PBS -
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/oil-ticker/

Better video feed from ustream http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/05/newshour-oil-widget-2-including-spillcam.html

[Limbo]

Looks like the cap is grabbing off close to 500,000 barrels of oil each day now.

Coast Guard: Cap on Damaged Well Stopping up to 462,000 Gallons of Oil Daily (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/07/long-road-oil-cleanup-looms-gulf-coast/)

If you look at the live feed, it does look like a lot less is escaping. Just eyeballing it, I would say they are getting a lot more than half of the oil, perhaps 2/3 or more. Better than nothing.

Live feed at cap site (http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html)

[Prometheus]

I shall have to remember that this situation is what some people pre-accident called "completely safe" and "should be widespread".

- Drill baby, Drill !!!!

[Carrot]

I shall have to remember that this situation is what some people pre-accident called "completely safe" and "should be widespread".

- Drill baby, Drill !!!!

And it still should be. (with greater safety precautions)

[Patt]

And it still should be. (with greater safety precautions)

You might want to institute some of those 'safety precautions' you speak of in your own home. You've sort of lost your color and someone has taken a red sharpie to your face. :o

But I do agree - drilling should continue and the MMS should actually {gasp} hold those drilling in the gulf to the regulations that have been passed. Again, big government is NOT the answer, nor is limiting or shutting down our drilling.

[LedZap]

Well....They've taken the collector off and oil is shooting full speed into the ocean , while they're trying to get the 4 inch bolts off. So they can remove the top flange and attach Top Hat #10. But they can't even seem to get the sockets on the bolts...It looks like BIG trouble...

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/html/OceanInterventionROV2.html

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/html/OceanInterventionROV1.html

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/html/Skandi_ROV1.html

[LedZap]

They are getting ready to put what looks like a new blow out preventor on top of the old one right now....

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/html/OceanInterventionROV2.html

[LedZap]

That's it...preventer on ...now they have to test it....oil is still leaking from top pipe.

[LedZap]

WOW...look how good the new cap works...

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/html/Skandi_ROV1.html

[mooreed2323]

One thing i don't understand,

if they are collecting oil and gas

why are they burning it off??

is there no way to collect it and avoid wasting it??

something like 22.5MCF of gas, that according to that link has been collected, could heat and cool a lot of homes and businesses

[Patt]

Collecting the oil - burning the gas? I dunno how they collect gas in deep water. How do they usually do it?

[mooreed2323]

The well integrity test on the MC252 well commenced today; full closure of the choke valve occurred at approximately 2:25pm.

-Currently the well remains shut-in with no oil flowing into the Gulf; any significant change to this operation will be announced via a press release.

-For the first 12 hours on July 15 (midnight to noon), approximately 5,875 barrels of oil were collected and approximately 3,430 barrels of oil and 22.5 million cubic feet of natural gas were flared.

-We anticipate the next update will be provided at around 9:30am CDT on July 16, 2010.
Updated July 15 at 6:00 pm CDT


this from the bp website that zap posted ^^

seems to me there would have to be some way to avoid wasting all that gas, perhaps seting up a mobile station to turn it into LNG.

http://www.exmaroffshore.com/exmarlngregasification.htm <---these guys have a system to handle the gas,

http://thm-a02.yimg.com/nimage/df61fdaf0802a736http://thm-a03.yimg.com/nimage/7a6a621a5c8db4d0

and put it in here to get it to a port somewhere close?


But thinking like this is way above my pay grade, roflmao!!