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Ausinus
01-10-2007, 05:36 PM
One day a monk lost his cock (rooster). So the next day in chapel he asked "Has anyone seen the cock?" And everyone stood up. Then he said "No no, has anyone got the cock?" And all the other monks stood up. Then he said "No, has anyone seen MY cock?" And all the nuns stood up.
:D
But seriously, which philosophy do you follow?
I follow the empiricist philosophy.
MrBirdy
01-10-2007, 06:01 PM
i think this one goes in wit and humor, nontheless funny
something
01-11-2007, 02:31 AM
A philosofer once sayed:
"If you belive in god, and you're right, you go to heaven. But if you don't belive in god, and you're wrong, you go to hell. But if you belive in god, and you're wrong, nothing will happend. And if you don't belive in god, and you're right, nothing will happend."
"So you have everything to loose on not belve in god, but everything to win by beliving in god."
This make sense, but the problem is, that the philosofer claims that either it's no god, or the christian god, when it could be any kind of god.
Ausinus
01-11-2007, 02:38 AM
Far more likely, if any god were to exist, which is highly unlikely, then it would be a god humanity has never heard of. In which case that makes the argument for belief in god redundant.
I would rather go to hell knowing I had lived a good and free life than restrict myself for the sake of something which is likely not to exist in the afterlife.
something
01-11-2007, 02:42 AM
Far more likely, if any god were to exist, which is highly unlikely, then it would be a god humanity has never heard of. In which case that makes the argument for belief in god redundant.
I would rather go to hell knowing I had lived a good and free life than restrict myself for the sake of something which is likely not to exist in the afterlife.
I know. But if you sat that there's 5 possible religions (atheism counted) is the chance about 1 of 10 that you go to hell, becouse even if you have the right religion, you don't neccesery have to be a good person.
Ausinus
01-11-2007, 02:45 AM
I know. But if you sat that there's 5 possible religions (atheism counted) is the chance about 1 of 10 that you go to hell, becouse even if you have the right religion, you don't neccesery have to be a good person.
The very concept of hell is conceptually flawed. How is it justified that less than a century of "sin", which is subjective and varies so greatly even within faiths, merits an eternity of punishment? Not even Stalin deserves eternity, a damn long time yes, but not eternity.
something
01-11-2007, 02:53 AM
The very concept of hell is conceptually flawed. How is it justified that less than a century of "sin", which is subjective and varies so greatly even within faiths, merits an eternity of punishment? Not even Stalin deserves eternity, a damn long time yes, but not eternity.
Well, with hell I mean the official punishment of a religion. All religions have a punishment if you don't follow their rules.
Ausinus
01-11-2007, 02:54 AM
Yes. But I dont believe in divine moral consequence, nor any sort of Deus ex Machina.
something
01-11-2007, 03:06 AM
Yes. But I dont believe in divine moral consequence, nor any sort of Deus ex Machina.
Niether do I.
But a lot of christian people say that just becouse we don't belive in a punishment in the afterlife, so aren't we responseble for anything we do.
Ausinus
01-11-2007, 03:09 AM
This supports my idea that religion is like a drug. It allows people to attempt to escape the harshness of reality.
However, that is not to say that we shouldnt be responsible for some things. This is why we have the law.
something
01-11-2007, 03:32 AM
That's what I was meaning. It's wrong of them to say that we need religion to keep our society from collapse.
Ausinus
01-11-2007, 03:34 AM
Exactly :D Did you know that atheists used to be unable to provide testimony in court, because people thought they had no reason to tell the truth?
something
01-11-2007, 03:42 AM
Exactly :D Did you know that atheists used to be unable to provide testimony in court, because people thought they had no reason to tell the truth?
Damn, I didn't know that.
But I do know that when I was 12 and my classs went to church (Allready then I was atheist) didn't one guy have to go becouse he was jewish, but I had to go, becouse the only thing that matter was if you had an other religion. Not if you just don't have a religion.
Ausinus
01-11-2007, 03:52 AM
Damn, I didn't know that.
But I do know that when I was 12 and my classs went to church (Allready then I was atheist) didn't one guy have to go becouse he was jewish, but I had to go, becouse the only thing that matter was if you had an other religion. Not if you just don't have a religion.
I've had the same thing happen to me. Back in Australia, I went to this Anglican private school (for the education), and you didnt have to go to chapel if you werent christian, but you had to be religious. But they didnt care if you were atheist.
It is discriminatory. Much better to just keep the whole religion thing out of schools
General Septem
01-11-2007, 07:01 AM
Far more likely, if any god were to exist, which is highly unlikely, then it would be a god humanity has never heard of.
That makes no sense. If God exists, why wouldn't He make Himself known to us? Considering He's the Creator and our Father and all that. It would be like giving birth to a baby and leaving it on a doorstep or in a dumpster and hoping it can make its way. That makes no sense.
General Septem
01-11-2007, 07:17 AM
This supports my idea that religion is like a drug. It allows people to attempt to escape the harshness of reality.
The concept of Hell is actually a pretty harsh thing to believe in, harsh enough that even a deeply religious person like myself likes to believe that most people don't end up there. On the other hand, I don't find anything harsh about this existence. People are assholes. The end.
However, that is not to say that we shouldnt be responsible for some things. This is why we have the law.
The law means a lot to me. I'll do what I do anyway, but the law tells me whether or not I should do it carefully. - John Septem I
General Septem
01-11-2007, 07:19 AM
Exactly :D Did you know that atheists used to be unable to provide testimony in court, because people thought they had no reason to tell the truth?
I don't trust atheists either.
The hell am I saying, I don't trust anyone.
General Septem
01-11-2007, 07:23 AM
I've had the same thing happen to me. Back in Australia, I went to this Anglican private school (for the education), and you didnt have to go to chapel if you werent christian, but you had to be religious. But they didnt care if you were atheist.
It is discriminatory. Much better to just keep the whole religion thing out of schools
Well it's a religious school, what do you expect? You can't blame a designated religious school just because they don't do things your way.
something
01-11-2007, 08:53 AM
Well it's a religious school, what do you expect? You can't blame a designated religious school just because they don't do things your way.
But I was not on a religus school, but the same thing happend to me!!!
theicidal maniac
01-11-2007, 05:50 PM
A philosofer once sayed:
"If you belive in god, and you're right, you go to heaven. But if you don't belive in god, and you're wrong, you go to hell. But if you belive in god, and you're wrong, nothing will happend. And if you don't belive in god, and you're right, nothing will happend."
"So you have everything to loose on not belve in god, but everything to win by beliving in god."
This make sense, but the problem is, that the philosofer claims that either it's no god, or the christian god, when it could be any kind of god.
Actually that does not make sense, insofar that you would use it to make the conclusion that you did. It does make sense if your conclusion is that the bullshit doesn't matter. Besides, all of that really isn't the point...the point is that if you believe in God or gremlins or unicorns or the horoscope that's fine, but then you believe in a religion, and the religion tells you that God prefers people of that religion, and everyone elses religion is saying the same thing, and everything thinks God will have their back in a fight, so they are willing to kill over it all. Why WOULDN'T you kill someone that is offending your God with his every breath? What would stop you from dispatching him to an afterlife that he earned through his own actions? the answer: NOTHING. On the other hand you can find PLENTY of scripture egging on the fight.
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