View Full Version : I know what causes Global Warming..... THE SUN!.
aalia_12
07-09-2010, 02:59 PM
Article here http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA203.html
Those looking for the culprit responsible for global warming have missed the obvious choice - the sun. While it may come as a newsflash to some, scientific evidence conclusively shows that the sun plays a far more important role in causing global warming and global cooling than any other factor, natural or man-made. In fact, what may very well be the ultimate ironic twist in the global warming controversy is that the same solar forces that caused 150 years of warming are on the verge of producing a prolonged period of cooling.
The evidence for future cooling is supported by considerable scientific research that has only recently begun to come to light. It wasn't until 1980, with the aid of NASA satellites, that scientists definitively proved that the sun's brightness - or radiance - varies in intensity, and that these variations occur in predictable cyclical patterns. This was a crucial discovery because the climate models used by greenhouse theory proponents always assumed that the sun's radiance was constant. With that assumption in hand, they could ignore solar influences and focus on other influences, including human.
That turned out to be a reckless assumption. Further investigation revealed that there is a strong correlation between the variations in solar irradiance and fluctuations in the Earth's temperature. When the sun gets dimmer, the Earth gets cooler; when the sun gets brighter, the Earth gets hotter. So important is the sun in climate change that half of the 1.5° F temperature increase since 1850 is directly attributable to changes in the sun. According to NASA scientists David Lind and Judith Lean, only one-quarter of a degree can be ascribed to other causes, such as greenhouse gases, through which human activities can theoretically exert some influence.
The correlation between major changes in the Earth's temperature and changes in solar radiance is quite compelling. A perfect example is the Little Ice Age that lasted from 1650 to 1850. Temperatures in this era fell to as much as 2° F below today's temperature, causing the glaciers to advance, the canals in Venice to freeze and major crop failures. Interestingly, this dramatic cooling happened in a period when the sun's radiance had fallen to exceptionally low levels. Between 1645 and 1715, the sun was in a stage that scientists refer to as the Maunder Minimum. In this minimum, the sun has few sunspots and low magnetism which automatically indicates a lower radiance level. When the sun began to emerge from the minimum, radiance increased and by 1850 the temperature had warmed up enough for the Little Ice Age to end.
The Maunder Minimum is not an isolated event: it is a cyclical phenomenon that typically appears for 70 years following 200-300 years of warming. With only a few exceptions, whenever there is a solar minimum, the Earth gets colder. For example, Europe in the 13th and 15th Centuries experienced significantly lower temperatures and in both cases the cold spells coincided with a minimum. Similar correlations were found in the 9th Century and again in the 7th Century. Since 8700 B.C., there have been at least ten major cold periods similar to the Little Ice Age. Nine of those ten cold spells coincided with Maunder Minima.
There is no reason to believe that this 10,000-year-old cycle of solar-induced warming and cooling will change. Dr. Sallie Baliunas, an astrophysicist with the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and one of the nation's leading experts on global climate change, believes that we may be nearing the end of a solar warming cycle. Since the last minimum ended in 1715, Baliunas says there is a strong possibility that the Earth will start cooling off in the early part of the 21st Century.
Indeed, it could already be happening. Of the 1.5° F in warming the planet experienced over the last 150 years, two-thirds of that increase, or one degree, occurred between 1850 and 1940. In the last 50 years, the planetary temperature increased at a significantly slower rate of 0.5° F - precisely when dramatically increasing amounts of man-made carbon dioxide emissions should have been accelerating warming. Further buttressing the arguments for future cooling is the evidence from NASA satellites that the global temperature has actually fallen 0.04° F since 1979.
Of course, it is impossible to precisely predict when solar radiance will drop and global temperatures will begin falling. But one thing is certain: There is little evidence that mankind is responsible for global warming. There is considerable evidence that the sun causes warming and will most likely stimulate cooling in the not so distant future.
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Doesn't it really make sense? The Global warming catastrophe is scientific nonsense driven by a political agenda. The Earth is in it's natural cycle as it the sun.
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LedZap
07-09-2010, 03:54 PM
It's hard to say what may happen when it comes to stars , maybe we'll find out in 2012 when that black hole singularity object is predicted to do a fly by of our solar system.
peepers
07-09-2010, 07:23 PM
Finally I've been waiting for someone to post this.
Does anyone know how much people like al gore profit off these supposed catastrophees. It seems to me that some liberals like to prey on miconceptions and profit like al gore, or fat ass (michael moore).
Phoenix
07-09-2010, 08:27 PM
No, no, no! I told ye all ready! It's Obama's mouth that causes global warming.
peepers
07-09-2010, 11:00 PM
No, no, no! I told ye all ready! It's Obama's mouth that causes global warming.
that, and michael moore
eyeonyou
07-10-2010, 02:15 PM
Damn, don't you people know anything. It's all the people and the animals farting. Geez!
Wow, that was a big one.
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/03/17/fart.jpg
Hey - they'll have to cap every geyser at Yellowstone too - mass CO2 emissions. That's gonna be a booger! Can't wait to see (nope, but I miss him) that shovel ready project - LMAO - and I also can't wait for someone to tell me that what happens in Yellowstone is somehow NOT natural. :D :D :D
YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK (http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/26/us/yellowstone-park-emits-tons-of-carbon-dioxide-study-finds.html) Hot springs and other thermal features at Yellowstone National Park vent millions of tons of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide each year, more than a typical industrial power plant, researchers from Pennsylvania State University have found.
Damn, don't you people know anything. It's all the people and the animals farting. Geez!
Wow, that was a big one.
Actually ----
Termites emit ten times more CO2 than humans. Should we cap-and-tax them? (http://www.iloveco2.org/2009/04/termites-emit-ten-times-more-co2-than.html)
beelzebub
07-11-2010, 12:03 AM
Finally I've been waiting for someone to post this.
Does anyone know how much people like al gore profit off these supposed catastrophees. It seems to me that some liberals like to prey on miconceptions and profit like al gore, or fat ass (michael moore).
Yall don't get it.... You think that the earth can take burning 60 to 90 thousand barrels a day over 20 years and somehow it wont affect the environment? Its rediculous to think so.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Oil_consumption_per_day_by_region_from_1980_to_200 6.svg/300px-Oil_consumption_per_day_by_region_from_1980_to_200 6.svg.png
peepers
07-11-2010, 01:59 AM
Yall don't get it.... You think that the earth can take burning 60 to 90 thousand barrels a day over 20 years and somehow it wont affect the environment? Its rediculous to think so.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Oil_consumption_per_day_by_region_from_1980_to_200 6.svg/300px-Oil_consumption_per_day_by_region_from_1980_to_200 6.svg.png
Here's another chart.
http://climatex.org/media/images-image-image/WoodFuel_carbcycle.jpg
With a cool video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wro6Le9VvJQ
With that being said, lumber jacks are causing global warming.
peepers
07-11-2010, 03:32 PM
But honestly global warming, is just a fad. Have you ever heard of global cooling? That was the fad in the 1970's.
freakazoid
07-11-2010, 03:57 PM
But honestly global warming, is just a fad. Have you ever heard of global cooling? That was the fad in the 1970's.
Yup, check it out "Global Cooling; an Absolute Fact" ...
http://firstfriday.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/newsweek-global-cooling.jpg
http://ihatealgore.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/GlobalCooling.jpg
http://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/global-cooling.jpg
http://leatherhead.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/global-cooling-time.gif
freakazoid
07-11-2010, 04:27 PM
Yall don't get it.... You think that the earth can take burning 60 to 90 thousand barrels a day over 20 years and somehow it wont affect the environment? Its rediculous to think so.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Oil_consumption_per_day_by_region_from_1980_to_200 6.svg/300px-Oil_consumption_per_day_by_region_from_1980_to_200 6.svg.png
Yup, no doubt about it; Global Cooling is going to get us all! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!
Yall don't get it.... You think that the earth can take burning 60 to 90 thousand barrels a day over 20 years and somehow it wont affect the environment? Its rediculous to think so.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Oil_consumption_per_day_by_region_from_1980_to_200 6.svg/300px-Oil_consumption_per_day_by_region_from_1980_to_200 6.svg.png
I get it - the liberals need something to tax --- AND, they need a way to replace housing market derivatives --- it's not as if they've not been setting this crap up for a long, long time. How long has Al Gore been out of office and on a tare now --- since 2000, right? Ten years of hoodwink in the making. As if we've not been watching.............. Ummm, yeah. http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/patteurope/LG%20Smileys/rolleyes.gif
freakazoid
07-11-2010, 05:11 PM
I get it - the liberals need something to tax --- AND, they need a way to replace housing market derivatives --- it's not as if they've not been setting this crap up for a long, long time. How long has Al Gore been out of office and on a tare now --- since 2000, right? Ten years of hoodwink in the making. As if we've not been watching.............. Ummm, yeah. http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/patteurope/LG%20Smileys/rolleyes.gif
Liberals sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry them, and yet assure themselves and others that they are very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means -- except by getting off his back.
- Count Leo Tolstoy
Liberals sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry them, and yet assure themselves and others that they am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means -- except by getting off his back.
- Count Leo Tolstoy
They've done it since they formed as a political unit --- literally. Forever changing their face to avoid the reality of what they do. Arguably, the most disingenuous bunch of mouth breathers I've ever studied. They'll say anything to get elected.
Just take a look at the pass given by the liberals to Robert Byrd at his funeral services. I mean - could you give me a damned break, here? The man was a walking, talking, card carrying KKK member who recruited others and they say he should be forgiven because he 'only did it to get elected' ?????????
If that doesn't point out their hypocrisy in this day and age, nothing does.
beelzebub
07-11-2010, 08:18 PM
Here's another chart.
http://climatex.org/media/images-image-image/WoodFuel_carbcycle.jpg
With that being said, lumber jacks are causing global warming.
If you understood how the carbon cycle worked you would also understand that CO2 is not a limiting factor. That its consumption by photosynthetic organisms remains constant no matter how much is in the atmosphere.
Its not just CO2 either. Nitrates and Organic compounds also leak into the atmosphere from combustion engines.
freakazoid
07-11-2010, 08:24 PM
If you understood how the carbon cycle worked you would also understand that CO2 is not a limiting factor. That its consumption by photosynthetic organisms remains constant no matter how much is in the atmosphere.
Its not just CO2 either. Nitrates and Organic compounds also leak into the atmosphere from combustion engines...........................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs
beelzebub
07-11-2010, 08:41 PM
I get it - the liberals need something to tax --- AND, they need a way to replace housing market derivatives --- it's not as if they've not been setting this crap up for a long, long time. How long has Al Gore been out of office and on a tare now --- since 2000, right? Ten years of hoodwink in the making. As if we've not been watching.............. Ummm, yeah.
You know,... you would think that everyone would be for getting off of oil. Its good for everyone. But you prefer to talk about tax and how liberal it is???? This is ridiculous, its not liberal or conservative it is just good old common sense.
You know,... you would think that everyone would be for getting off of oil. Its good for everyone. But you prefer to talk about tax and how liberal it is???? This is ridiculous, its not liberal or conservative it is just good old common sense.
I WAS all for the effort at the beginning of Obama's term - it had been a major focus of the campaigns -- remember? The problem is that instead of Obama actually thinking the problem through and giving us a national focus - improving the electrical grid and moving to renewable energy infrastructure (as the Democrats SAID the Stimulus package was about {shovel ready - umm, yeah}) --- the stupid SOBs blew the wad on a freaking Stimulus Package that was nothing other than paying off their political cronies for helping him get elected. Ever take a look at the Pork Projects inside that package (http://www.propublica.org/article/politics-get-a-stimulus-at-100-day-mark-616)? Do you honestly think that north Florida is in dire need of a turtle underpass? How about a guardrail to stop cars going off into a lake that doesn't even exist? A high speed train from Las Vegas to Disneyland? The very same Las Vegas, I might add, that Obama blasted several times since he's been in office - which of course he just loves now because of Harry trying to be re-elected.
Now, unfortunately, after the 862 BILLION (which of course includes Obama's 95 Billion dollar Oops) that Nancy Pelosi blew of OUR money on their political buddies, WE can't afford to even look at the road that might have been and we have nothing to show for THAT bailout.
Pissed off about it? Me? Ya Think?
If you understood how the carbon cycle worked you would also understand that CO2 is not a limiting factor. That its consumption by photosynthetic organisms remains constant no matter how much is in the atmosphere.
Its not just CO2 either. Nitrates and Organic compounds also leak into the atmosphere from combustion engines.
I see that you totally avoided my remarks regarding the contaminates that are put into the atmosphere by Yellowstone. I noticed. I sure did.
LedZap
07-11-2010, 08:56 PM
Yes Yellowstone and the other 61 active volcanoes out there that put out a 1000x as much co2 and sulfur dioxide etc. as humans. Yeah , Libs...tax the volcanoes.
http://www.geo.mtu.edu/volcanoes/world.html
I can't wait until one of them says that Yellowstone has been 'tinkered with' by humans causing it to be toxic. They should remember that Teddy Roosevelt, the very first Progressive Bull Moose, set that land aside as our first national park and it is as it was meant to be - naturally.
I also can't wait for some Liberal to tell me that they can control mother nature.
"The weather is no longer in God (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/God)'s hands... it's in mine."
— Evil Scotsman (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LargeHam) Sean Connery (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeanConnery), The Avengers (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheAvengers) Movie (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheMovie).
Speaking of --- that's a great idea --- why don't the Progressives just go ahead and adopt the 'Bull Moose Party' moniker? After all, that's how they behave - why not call a spade a spade.
peepers
07-11-2010, 09:01 PM
If you understood how the carbon cycle worked you would also understand that CO2 is not a limiting factor. That its consumption by photosynthetic organisms remains constant no matter how much is in the atmosphere.
Its not just CO2 either. Nitrates and Organic compounds also leak into the atmosphere from combustion engines.
It was actually just supposed to be a joke making fun of your chart, notice the simplicity of it.
beelzebub
07-11-2010, 09:04 PM
Yes Yellowstone and the other 61 active volcanoes out there that put out a 1000x as much co2 and sulfur dioxide etc. as humans. Yeah , Libs...tax the volcanoes.
http://www.geo.mtu.edu/volcanoes/world.html
I did'nt see that amount in the hyperlink you posted. "1000X as much as humans"??? I find that hard to believe. Currently we are burining 90,000 barrels a DAY... Thats a lot of gas.
LedZap
07-11-2010, 09:07 PM
-- that's a great idea --- why don't the Progressives just go ahead and adopt the 'Bull Moose Party' moniker? After all, that's how they behave - why not call a spade a spade.
Aren't those the political parties in Canada...Moose and Squirrel ?
LedZap
07-11-2010, 09:08 PM
I did'nt see that amount in the hyperlink you posted. "1000X as much as humans"??? I find that hard to believe. Currently we are burining 90,000 barrels a DAY... Thats a lot of gas.
Yeah , I'm probably wrong....it's Sunday.
Aren't those the political parties in Canada...Moose and Squirrel ?
Nope, Teddy pissed off the Republicans with his wacky ideas back then and started calling himself a Progressive and termed it the Bull Moose Party.
Yeah, it fits -- both then and now.
Hey - you're not supposed to talk about Secret Squirrel, ya know. :D
LedZap
07-11-2010, 09:14 PM
I'm sure Ace Tracer will be along any minute now to give me his "correct" answer to this .
Yepper doodle - he'll be here soon enough to explain again the error of everyone's way of thinking. I can almost hear it now....
Sie halten wird und sie werden glücklich, daß ich wies sie !
LedZap
07-11-2010, 10:06 PM
LOL........................Gesundheit
beelzebub
07-13-2010, 09:24 PM
It was actually just supposed to be a joke making fun of your chart, notice the simplicity of it.
Oh interesting... You found a graph I used to be simple?
Well I was just commenting on your simpleton argument,... touché!
LedZap
07-13-2010, 09:28 PM
Hey Bub...I see you have some cool new flys. Buy there's mosquitoes there as well....are those considered flys also ?
beelzebub
07-13-2010, 09:33 PM
Hey Bub...I see you have some cool new flys. Buy there's mosquitoes there as well....are those considered flys also ?
Distractions Distractions... you have always done that to me Led... why? :confused:
In any event.... all are of the order Diptera (two wing) meaning they are all flies save 2: Dragonflies on the end (Odonata) and the mayflies (Ephemeroptera) 3rd in. However in lay terms (pay attention Patt) they are all called flies of some sort.
LedZap
07-13-2010, 09:35 PM
Distractions Distractions... you have always done that to me Led... why? :confused:
In any event.... all are of the order Diptera (two wing) meaning they are all flies.
Sorry Bub...I'm just interested in that subject.
beelzebub
07-13-2010, 09:43 PM
Sorry Bub...I'm just interested in that subject.
Really???? ,... then don't apologize I respect that and I share the same interest. Ask me anything,,,,.... but first...
How much do you know about insects?
LedZap
07-13-2010, 09:51 PM
I've read enough about them to know they've been around a hell of a lot longer that most anything else. I'm especially interested in ants. They have some of the most astounding statistics.
(pay attention Patt)
Oh Bite me, Bug Boy !! :D
peepers
07-13-2010, 11:18 PM
Oh interesting... You found a graph I used to be simple?
Well I was just commenting on your simpleton argument,... touché!
If you noticed afterwards i said it was just a joke and pointed out that I think it's just a fad. like global cooling in the 1970's.
beelzebub
07-13-2010, 11:22 PM
I've read enough about them to know they've been around a hell of a lot longer that most anything else. I'm especially interested in ants. They have some of the most astounding statistics.
Then E O Wilson is your man. He is the King of Ant Biology and one of my my personal idols.
beelzebub
07-13-2010, 11:24 PM
If you noticed afterwards i said it was just a joke and pointed out that I think it's just a fad. like global cooling in the 1970's.
So ... I was just jokig too. It's back and fourth like fencing eh?.... touche!
peepers
07-13-2010, 11:27 PM
So ... I was just jokig too. It's back and fourth like fencing eh?.... touche!
Yes, like fencing. lol
beelzebub
07-16-2010, 12:53 PM
Oh Bite me, Bug Boy !! :D
you got it! ;)
http://freeandflawed.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mosquito.gif
Wow!!!!! Do all bugs have a pink scrotum or just a few??????HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Sorry, NOT! lol
beelzebub
07-16-2010, 01:05 PM
Wow!!!!! Do all bugs have a pink scrotum or just a few??????HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Sorry, NOT! lol
Insects dont have a scrotum. That must be its stinger???
Wow, visuals paint their own messages, and that bug has two pink hanging things with a red enlongated thingy in the middle!!!!HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
beelzebub
07-16-2010, 07:39 PM
Wow, visuals paint their own messages, and that bug has two pink hanging things with a red enlongated thingy in the middle!!!!HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
You prefer this one?
http://imagehut.net/images/g4uwy6wu51kvu07pq9.gif
I did NOT realize visuals of insects could be sexual explicit!!!! Mama making honey, oh my!!HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
beelzebub
07-16-2010, 07:49 PM
I did NOT realize visuals of insects could be sexual explicit!!!! Mama making honey, oh my!!HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Lord have mercy... sexual explicit? Where did you get that? I believe the image is of Beelzebub squirtin suff out of his behind.
This is insect sexual explicit:
http://www.talfryn.net/wp-content/uploads/flies_copulating1.jpg
Bow chicke bow bow hexapod style!
Oh my goodness, my bad, better leave the buggy things alone, except of course for my beautiful avatar of my fav,,,the butterflies. They my represent my take on life, coming from something so unattractive and bland, changing into something so beautiful and free!!! My granddaughter took that just this afternoon out in the garden, so pretty!!!
beelzebub
07-17-2010, 12:19 AM
Oh my goodness, my bad, better leave the buggy things alone, except of course for my beautiful avatar of my fav,,,the butterflies. They my represent my take on life, coming from something so unattractive and bland, changing into something so beautiful and free!!! My granddaughter took that just this afternoon out in the garden, so pretty!!!
That's a Pipevine Swallowtail if I have ever seen one.. cute :-)
you got it! ;)
http://freeandflawed.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mosquito.gif
That is just plumb nasty !!
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