Stupid Democrats

[Limbo]

4 unelected members of the Environmental Appeals Board, which is part of the EPA, are blocking Shell from recovering up to 27,000,000,000 barrels of oil from the arctic ocean. All 4 members are political appointees, and are registered Demorats.

The reason for blocking shell, which has invested billions of dollars finding the oil, is that the ice breakers used by Shell will emit too much CO2 which will add to global warming. Now is that fucking stupid or what?

Why the hell would you appoint tree hugging extremists to such a key position with such power? I guess Obama agrees with these nuts.He appointed Lisa Jackson, the moron who in turn appointed these idiots to the EAB.

Energy in America: EPA Rules Force Shell to Abandon Oil Drilling Plans (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/25/energy-america-oil-drilling-denial/)


Shell Oil Company has announced it must scrap efforts to drill for oil this summer in the Arctic Ocean off the northern coast of Alaska. The decision comes following a ruling by the EPA’s Environmental Appeals Board to withhold critical air permits. The move has angered some in Congress and triggered a flurry of legislation aimed at stripping the EPA of its oil drilling oversight.

Shell has spent five years and nearly $4 billion dollars on plans to explore for oil in the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas. The leases alone cost $2.2 billion. Shell Vice President Pete Slaiby says obtaining similar air permits for a drilling operation in the Gulf of Mexico would take about 45 days. He’s especially frustrated over the appeal board’s suggestion that the Arctic drill would somehow be hazardous for the people who live in the area. “We think the issues were really not major,” Slaiby said, “and clearly not impactful for the communities we work in.”

The closest village to where Shell proposed to drill is Kaktovik, Alaska. It is one of the most remote places in the United States. According to the latest census, the population is 245 and nearly all of the residents are Alaska natives. The village, which is 1 square mile, sits right along the shores of the Beaufort Sea, 70 miles away from the proposed off-shore drill site.

The EPA’s appeals board ruled that Shell had not taken into consideration emissions from an ice-breaking vessel when calculating overall greenhouse gas emissions from the project. Environmental groups were thrilled by the ruling.

“What the modeling showed was in communities like Kaktovik, Shell’s drilling would increase air pollution levels close to air quality standards,” said Eric Grafe, Earthjustice’s lead attorney on the case. Earthjustice was joined by Center for Biological Diversity and the Alaska Wilderness League in challenging the air permits.

At stake is an estimated 27 billion barrels of oil. That’s how much the U. S. Geological Survey believes is in the U.S. portion of the Arctic Ocean. For perspective, that represents two and a half times more oil than has flowed down the Trans Alaska pipeline throughout its 30-year history. That pipeline is getting dangerously low on oil. At 660,000 barrels a day, it’s carrying only one-third its capacity.

Production on the North Slope of Alaska is declining at a rate of about 7 percent a year. If the volume gets much lower, pipeline officials say they will have to shut it down. Alaska officials are blasting the Environmental Protection Agency.

“It’s driving investment and production overseas,” said Alaska’s DNR Commissioner Dan Sullivan. “That doesn’t help the United States in any way, shape or form.”

The EPA did not return repeated calls and e-mails. The Environmental Appeals Board has four members: Edward Reich, Charles Sheehan, Kathie Stein and Anna Wolgast. All are registered Democrats and Kathie Stein was an activist attorney for the Environmental Defense Fund. Members are appointed by the EPA administrator. Alaska’s Republican senator thinks it’s time to make some changes.

“EPA has demonstrated that they’re not competent to handle the process,” said Sen. Lisa Murkowski. “So if they’re not competent to handle it, they need to get out of the way.”

Murkowski supported budget amendments that would have stripped the EPA of its oversight role in Arctic offshore drilling. The Interior Department issues air permits to oil companies working in the Gulf of Mexico.

[buttless_wonder]

Isn't "Stupid Democrats" redundant?

[yee-haw]

Isn't "Stupid Democrats" redundant?

Kinda like JUMBO Shrimp. :cool:

[beelzebub]

Kinda like JUMBO Shrimp. :cool:

Thanks Haw,... but Butless was saying that they are the same word twice (redundant) not contrasting words as you have put. But I believe you are correct. "Stupid" and "Democrat" are contrasting.

Here is an example of that Butless was implying:

Dishonest and Republican! (they are the same word ya see?)

or perhaps:

Sierra Nevada Mountains! (Nevada and Mountain are the same word)

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LOL

[seestraight]

Isn't "Stupid Democrats" redundant?

Yes it is. and the picture, LOL, I think they are waiting with barrels of the white goo they excrete to put on that statue.

[Phoenix]

How about Dishonest Politician.

Democrats aren't stupid.
Republicans aren't stupid.

People who belong to parties are stupid; Politicians are simply dishonest. To put it lightly.

[LedZap]

How about Dishonest Politician.

Democrats aren't stupid.
Republicans aren't stupid.

People who belong to parties are stupid; Politicians are simply dishonest. To put it lightly.

I think it's incredibly stupid for a politician to use ignorant laws to keep us dependent on oil from countries who's citizens would kill us.

[Phoenix]

I think it's incredibly stupid for a politician to use ignorant laws to keep us dependent on oil from countries who's citizens would kill us.
No, it's not stupid. Betraying your country is pretty damn good money from what I hear.

On the other hand, it is rather stupid to have a market which insists on maintaining a dependence on such an inefficient form of energy. Legitimate environmental concerns (e.g. not global warming) aside, oil just sucks in general.

[beelzebub]

I think it's incredibly stupid for a politician to use ignorant laws to keep us dependent on oil from countries who's citizens would kill us.

I know right! Bush and Reagan were asshats weren't they! LOL

All jokes aside,.. dont generalize it to their citizens. Thats assuming a lot.

Fundamentalist extremist groups and politicians.

[LedZap]

I know right! Bush and Reagan were asshats weren't they! LOL

Maybe , but now you're off topic. Obama owns the downward spiral we're in. It's like he intends our demise.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RqoDO_RJ-Es/TbNppG4xpKI/AAAAAAAAHe4/mUkEJviAl2U/s640/2011-02-03-09-19-34-490x3491.png

[Phoenix]

Maybe , but now you're off topic. Obama owns the downward spiral we're in. It's like he intends our demise.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RqoDO_RJ-Es/TbNppG4xpKI/AAAAAAAAHe4/mUkEJviAl2U/s640/2011-02-03-09-19-34-490x3491.png
Let me introduce you to the motive for fucking shit up so bad.

http://blog.freelance.com/.a/6a00e553f1a79c88340147e117187a970b-800wi

Long term stability? FUCK THAT! IT'S MY MONEY AND I WANT IT NAO!!!!!!!!!!!

[Limbo]

I just figured it out. The estimated 27 billion barrels of oil (that these pinheads are stopping shell from recovering) is as much oil as the United States imports in 5 years.

Possibly even worse, now, no one can trust the EPA when it comes to oil exploration. You can spend billions looking for and finding oil only to have some ignorant political hacks stop you from retrieving it at the very last minute. This will have a chilling effect on the oil exploration industry, which will of course cost jobs, tax revenue, etc., etc., and ultimately make us more dependent on foreign oil.

[Phoenix]

You want to know why we can't drill here? Because higher oil prices caused by an artificial scarcity mean bigger profits for oil men. Bigger profits translates to more lobbying to keep the prices high.


It's simple logic. It's not just morons, it's people who are getting paid to ignore the problems we face.

[LedZap]

You'd think one would hear more about this from the media but nope ...

"The average price for a gallon of unleaded gasoline hit $3.86 on April 25, more than $1-a-gallon higher than a year earlier and less than 25 cents away from the record high price of gasoline set in July 2008.

In fact, per gallon prices are more than $2 higher than when Obama took office Jan. 20, 2009. Yet the president has been nearly exempt from criticism on the issue of rising prices, despite a six-month drilling moratorium and more regulatory hurdles for industry.

The Business & Media Institute found that out of the 280 oil price stories the network evening shows have aired since the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill, only 1 percent (3 stories) mentioned Obama's drilling ban or other anti-oil actions in connection with gasoline prices.

Instead of asking whether Obama's anti-oil policies could be increasing the cost of gas, the networks blamed other factors such as Mideast turmoil or the "money game" played by speculators. Certainly, the turmoil in Libya, Egypt and surrounding nations has increased worries about oil production and can influence the price. But the networks also should have looked for explanations much closer to home, like Obama's many regulatory actions taken against the oil industry.

First there was the drilling ban, which was later overturned by federal courts as illegal. Seahawk Drilling, a Texas-based shallow-water drilling company cited that moratorium as the cause of its bankruptcy filing saying, they "have been adversely affected by the dramatic slowdown in the issuing of shallow-water permits in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico following the Macondo well blowout."

According to The Heritage Foundation, the Obama administration moved on to a de facto moratorium after the ban was overturned. Add to that the EPA's desire to regulate the industry's greenhouse gas emissions and new environmental regulatory hurdles for the Keystone XL pipeline, which would transport crude from Canada to the U.S. and create many American jobs.

Despite all of these actions on the part of the Obama administration, ABC, CBS and NBC evening news shows have barely mentioned them in stories about rising gas prices."

From here ... http://www.mrc.org/bmi/articles/2011/Gas_Prices_Top_aGallon_Higher_than_Year_Ago_Media_ Dont_Blame_Obama.html

[LedZap]

You want to know why we can't drill here? Because higher oil prices caused by an artificial scarcity mean bigger profits for oil men. Bigger profits translates to more lobbying to keep the prices high.


It's simple logic. It's not just morons, it's people who are getting paid to ignore the problems we face.

Except , there's no "artificial scarcity"....only The Obama Administration blocking oil exploration and banning refinery construction thru bogus environmental laws.

[Limbo]

The whole purpose of the OPEC cartel is to create a scarcity to keep oil prices artificially high.

We need nukes (nuclear power) and we need to increase the domestic supply of oil just like Shell is trying to do off the coast of Alaska. Wind and Solar will NEVER be enough.

[Carrot]

Yeah, that's pretty retarded.

I'm surprised shell isn't trying to claim some sort of compensation, paying for the rights to search for oil, paying billions searching for it then prevented from trying to aquiring it.

On the other hand it could help boost investment in other technologies....which would be a little more suited if you weren't in the middle of an economic downturn crying out for jobs and the regular source for oil is more turbulent than usual.

[Phoenix]

Except , there's no "artificial scarcity"....only The Obama Administration blocking oil exploration and banning refinery construction thru bogus environmental laws.
That's what artificial scarcity is. Restrict the supply of raw materials in an attempt to keep prices high.

The whole purpose of the OPEC cartel is to create a scarcity to keep oil prices artificially high.

We need nukes (nuclear power) and we need to increase the domestic supply of oil just like Shell is trying to do off the coast of Alaska. Wind and Solar will NEVER be enough.
I agree with that last bit. We need to seriously look into geothermal energy. If we could develop the technology to be more efficient, we've got over 200 ZJ waiting to be harvested. That's about 277 terawatt-hours of electricity.

Fuck your 1.2 Gigawatts.

[Limbo]

You know, the whole energy debate should not be liberal vs. conservative. France, arguably one of the most liberal countries in the world, generates almost 80% of their electricity from nuclear power. Norway, again very liberal, sucks vast amounts of oil out from under the ocean floor.

If we were to do what France and Norway do, we wouldn't need to buy oil from despotic regimes.

[Rec]

Actually politics should never be about party but what is good for the nation as a whole. hmmmmm That idea somehow got lost with a host of other beneficial ones with the"modern and post modern" thunk! lol

[beelzebub]

Maybe , but now you're off topic. Obama owns the downward spiral we're in. It's like he intends our demise.

Welll,... actually I am not off topic. Our countries direction towards leaving oil began with Carter's admin (because of the gas shortage). Carter went on a huge initiative about getting off gas by making automobiles more fuel efficient and using solar energy and a WHOLE HOST of other initiatives. As soon as Reagan took office he had the solar panels from the white house removed and closed down all the initiatives.

Then Bushy Baby II,.. his aggressive stance on oil leaves no doubt as to how he propagated our dependence on oil ,... besides it was in his best interest as an oil man himself.

[MrJim]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RqoDO_RJ-Es/TbNppG4xpKI/AAAAAAAAHe4/mUkEJviAl2U/s640/2011-02-03-09-19-34-490x3491.png

If you have a HiRes copy of that, I want one! I'm getting a frame for it tonight.

[MrJim]

The whole purpose of the OPEC cartel is to create a scarcity to keep oil prices artificially high.

We need nukes (nuclear power) and we need to increase the domestic supply of oil just like Shell is trying to do off the coast of Alaska. Wind and Solar will NEVER be enough.

If there's one silver lining behind these insane prices, it's that developing economies in Asia are more dependent on oil than we are. China's demand growth for oil as a percentage of total energy consumption is soaring vs. U.S.. Inflation is rising at an alarming rate there and appears more threatening than in the U.S. Should we actually develop and execute alternative energy policy, we will become better positioned to get back on our feet as Asia begins to fall.

[LedZap]

Welll,... actually I am not off topic. Our countries direction towards leaving oil began with Carter's admin (because of the gas shortage). Carter went on a huge initiative about getting off gas by making automobiles more fuel efficient and using solar energy and a WHOLE HOST of other initiatives. As soon as Reagan took office he had the solar panels from the white house removed and closed down all the initiatives.

Then Bushy Baby II,.. his aggressive stance on oil leaves no doubt as to how he propagated our dependence on oil ,... besides it was in his best interest as an oil man himself.

Well the TOPIC is Stupid Democrats , so you can easily include Carter.

[beelzebub]

Well the TOPIC is Stupid Democrats , so you can easily include Carter.

HA HA HA HA HA LOL

Now thats rich!

[Patt]

Then Bushy Baby II,.. his aggressive stance on oil leaves no doubt as to how he propagated our dependence on oil ,... besides it was in his best interest as an oil man himself.

Someone didn't ever listen to the SOTU addresses for eight years that I know of.

However, we can look to 30 years of alternative sources (re: special interest bugaboos) being given tax money in bulk to produce a product within the nation to replace oil as a source of energy.

Funny, I don't see those on the market after all this time...... sorta makes you go - hmm, doesn't it?

Yes, the topic is Stupid Democrats, isn't it?

[beelzebub]

Someone didn't ever listen to the SOTU addresses for eight years that I know of.
\However, we can look to 30 years of alternative sources (re: special interest bugaboos) being given tax money in bulk to produce a product within the nation to replace oil as a source of energy.
Funny, I don't see those on the market after all this time...... sorta makes you go - hmm, doesn't it?
?

Please SOTU ?! I have been monitoring what THEY DO because as we all know its not what Politicians say,... its what they DO that counts. And Bushie and Ronnie's environmental record is almost criminal.

Hey,... if Ronnie had taken petroleum seriously we wouldn't be in half the shit we are today.... but NO,... that wouldn't fit into his trickle down plan now world it.... LOL

They way I see it is the US government is to blame for this (as well as many things) and the people will pay for it. But how is that different from what normally happens?

And I see that Republicans are JUST as stupid as Democrats. The difference is that the Repubs give favor to big business in leiu of the environment and that Dems are the party of inclusion and Repubs are not.

Thats my big beef,... prove me wrong and I will think of joining the repubs.

[Patt]

Only got through the first ------------------ BLAME THEM and decided it wasn't any sort of reply to what is actually IN the SOTU address, nor what the SOTU address is supposed to be about. Hence, I read no further. Yes, the topic is Stupid Democrats. Sigh.

Here's a hint about the SOTU address: it's the direction the President would like to see the country go in for the good of the nation and therefore a call to action to the Congress as the people's representatives and a call to the Supreme Court to be aware of the issues he will be presenting in the coming year.

Maybe that's why the modern standard is that all three branches of government come together to hear it.

Gee, ya think?

[beelzebub]

Only got through the first ---------

Ok so here is the rest:

They way I see it is the US government is to blame for this (as well as many things) and the people will pay for it. But how is that different from what normally happens?

And I see that Republicans are JUST as stupid as Democrats. The difference is that the Repubs give favor to big business in leiu of the environment and that Dems are the party of inclusion and Repubs are not.

Thats my big beef,... prove me wrong and I will think of joining the repubs.

Gee, ya think ya might consider ALL your opponents point?

[Patt]

Ok so here is the rest:

They way I see it is the US government is to blame for this (as well as many things) and the people will pay for it. But how is that different from what normally happens?

Wrong, in my opinion. The people are to blame. They elected the representatives to Congress that took these actions over all these years and then went on re-electing them even though what they wanted wasn't enacted or what was enacted was hurtful to them.


And I see that Republicans are JUST as stupid as Democrats. The difference is that the Repubs give favor to big business in leiu of the environment and that Dems are the party of inclusion and Repubs are not.

Again, the people to blame are the people who voted without being informed. If you check back on all my political posts, you'll find that my basic premise is that an informed voter will vote first what is best for their nation, then their state and then themselves. An uninformed voter votes with themselves and a party in mind.



Thats my big beef,... prove me wrong and I will think of joining the repubs.

Gee, ya think ya might consider ALL your opponents point?

I have considered my 'opponent's' point of view each and every time I've been in a race. You aren't my opponent and it isn't up to me to change your thinking. Your ability to think of what is best for your nation, state, and family will do that for you. All I can advise you to do is to avoid the hype and dig for the facts before you advocate for or against anything or anyone.

[beelzebub]

Wrong, in my opinion. The people are to blame. They elected the representatives to Congress that took these actions over all these years and then went on re-electing them even though what they wanted wasn't enacted or what was enacted was hurtful to them. Again, the people to blame are the people who voted without being informed

Here is the deal,... its a crap shoot,... I say the people that are elected to office have a responsibility to do the "right thing" and not the corrupt thing. They should NOT be taking bribes from lobbyists and be voting what they want them to vote. Its their responsibility as well.

People, IMHO are 1/2 the battle the politician is the rest. It they are dishonest then FUCK THEM they should be tried and hung!


I have considered my 'opponent's' point of view each and every time I've been in a race. You aren't my opponent and it isn't up to me to change your thinking. Your ability to think of what is best for your nation, state, and family will do that for you. All I can advise you to do is to avoid the hype and dig for the facts before you advocate for or against anything or anyone.

I like the last part and am dubious about the first part. You have set yourself to be my opponent on this board therefore you are my opponent. As for the last part. I agree.

[Patt]

Here is the deal,... its a crap shoot,... I say the people that are elected to office have a responsibility to do the "right thing" and not the corrupt thing. They should NOT be taking bribes from lobbyists and be voting whgat they want them to vote. Its their responsibility as well.

It's NOT a crap shoot if you take the time to be an informed voter. Past the hype. Watch how your representative and Senators vote - you don't like what they do - don't vote for their ass the next time around. You have to be active to be informed and if you aren't, or don't vote, then you have only yourself to blame.

Personal Responsibility.


People, IMHO are 1/2 the battle the politician is the rest. It they are dishonest then FUCK THEM they should be tried and hung!

That's hyperbolic bullshit - aren't you sick of that yet? You had the run up to the 2008's and 2 1/2 years of full out bullshit slinging left, right and center. Gabby got shot and you still sling this shit? Grow up, please.


I like the last part and am dubious about the first part. You have set yourself to be my opponent on this board therefore you are my opponent. As for the last part. I agree.

The fact is YOU WANT an opponent. Somehow it makes you feel all gooey inside and you look to me to fill that role for you, probably because I'm smarter and more politically savvy than you are. ;) But, that doesn't mean I always have to play your game. I come and go as I please and I'm fully capable of leaving you to stew in your own juices if I feel like it.

Right now --- good luck. :)

[beelzebub]

It's NOT a crap shoot if you take the time to be an informed voter.

I know what the average (or even below average) American does and I am sure you do as well.


Watch how your representative and Senators vote - you don't like what they do - don't vote for their ass the next time around. You have to be active to be informed and if you aren't, or don't vote, then you have only yourself to blame. Personal Responsibility.

I do that. What worry's me is that many (a majority) are uninformed and heavily influenced by the media. What is and what is not is all misconstrued by the ebb and tide of populous favor. Its scary when we have so much at steak. I am really scared that there may be an environmental disaster looming and we are operating as if there is none.


That's hyperbolic bullshit - aren't you sick of that yet? You had the run up to the 2008's and 2 1/2 years of full out bullshit slinging left, right and center. Gabby got shot and you still sling this shit? Grow up, please.

How is it Hyperbolic? Explain please.


The fact is YOU WANT an opponent. Somehow it makes you feel all gooey inside and you look to me to fill that role for you,

You are correct here in a way. I like someone to rail against and you love to provide the fodder for my fire LOL!


probably because I'm smarter and more politically savvy than you are. ;)

If you are smarter, what purpose does denigrating your opponent other than to prop you up?


Doesn't mean I if I always have to play your game. I come and go as I please and I'm fully capable of leaving you to stew in your own juices if I feel like it. Right now --- good luck. :)

Stew in my own juices,... Patt are you for real ... you talk like you are the queen of mother fucking Sheba! LOL!!!

I hope you enjoy the continued "chopping" of your posts.

[Patt]

What I'm NOT is your play thing. That's what you need to learn.

Hyperbolic - because you said this:
People, IMHO are 1/2 the battle the politician is the rest. It they are dishonest then FUCK THEM they should be tried and hung! tried and hung? Really? That's a liberal mindset? Really? You say liberals are tolerant? Really?

*Rolls Eyes and Walks Away*


THEY TOLD ME IF I VOTED REPUBLICAN, PEOPLE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING BACK PUBLIC FLOGGINGS: And they were right! (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465021484?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwviolentkicom&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=0465021484)

This is about Stupid Democrats, right? As to the 'uninformed voter' - have you NOT been watching the people no one ever hears from since August of 2009 taking to the streets, voicing loud and clear that they are unhappy and aren't willing to take this crap any longer? Did you NOT notice the 2010 election, the biggest turnover in congress since 1938?

Don't underestimate the American voting public - they're smarter than you think. They're watching.

Those that aren't will vote their pocketbook. You can damn sure bet these past 2 1/2 years have been the worst they've seen in a long, long time. That's why there's a curtain on the voting booth. They can always say - wasn't me - and NOT vote for Obama again. No one will know the difference. :)

I love democracy !!

Oh, and the Queen of Sheba would have you stabbed in a riot. That's not my style. :)

[Patt]

HARSH WORDS AT CATO: Inside Every Leftist Is a Little Authoritarian Dying to Get Out. (http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/inside-every-leftist-is-a-little-authoritarian-dying-to-get-out/#utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) “This isn’t how it starts. This is how it snowballs. Paging Dr. Hayek…”


UPDATE: A reader emails: “How people that just want to be left alone ( TEA Party types ) can be called fascists, while the meddling do-gooder class are considered champions of freedom, has always eluded me.”



Posted at 10:35 am by Glenn Reynolds

[beelzebub]

Hyperbolic - because you said this: tried and hung? Really? That's a liberal mindset? Really? You say liberals are tolerant? Really? *Rolls Eyes and Walks Away*

Dismissive and repugnant - No wonder you have none moving to your side.


you NOT been watching the people no one ever hears from since August of 2009 taking to the streets, voicing loud and clear that they are unhappy and aren't willing to take this crap any longer?

Arrogant to top the list of inabilities,.. go figure.

You are a rude and disrespectful person and I do not need or feel the need to respond to you.

[LedZap]

Dismissive and repugnant - No wonder you have none moving to your side.

You must have missed the vote last November.



Arrogant to top the list of inabilities,.. go figure.

You are a rude and disrespectful person and I do not need or feel the need to respond to you.

Bub's mad.

[beelzebub]

Bub's mad.

Irritated is more like it.

Led ,.. Why ,.. Is it that we don't see eye to eye is beyond me. I feel like you are like my REAL brother as the the same question exists between my brother and I.

Yall have the same occupations and situations of family. Yall are Repub to the hilt and...... everything else.

Its really bothering me.

[Limbo]

Irritated is more like it.

Led ,.. Why ,.. Is it that we don't see eye to eye is beyond me. I feel like you are like my REAL brother as the the same question exists between my brother and I.

Yall have the same occupations and situations of family. Yall are Repub to the hilt and...... everything else.

Its really bothering me.

Are you saying your brother is a Republican?

[beelzebub]

Are you saying your brother is a Republican?

WOW - Yes my real brother and mother and father (deceased) are / were republicans. Only my sister is a hard core democrat. I am in-between.

But HiTeck reminds me a lot of my brother in MANY ways,... so yeah,... my internet brother (HiTeck) is a Repub LOL

[hitekredneck]

my internet brother (HiTeck) is a Repub LOL
you ever cuss me like that again, we'll step behind the woodpile, bub...i'm by no means whatsoever a republican....if anything, i tend to fall more into libertarian if you must label me...i consider myself a common sense conservative...

[beelzebub]

you ever cuss me like that again, we'll step behind the woodpile, bub...i'm by no means whatsoever a republican....if anything, i tend to fall more into libertarian if you must label me...i consider myself a common sense conservative...

My apologies ..................... brother (snicker LOL)

[Limbo]

WOW - Yes my real brother and mother and father (deceased) are / were republicans.

Oh the irony.

As for me, I'm not a republican... I can't even vote yet. i won't register with either party once I get my citizenship.

[shel10]

Asshole & Harry Reed

[Patt]

In a pants-on-fire moment, the White House press office today denied (http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/0411/WH_denies_threatening_SF_Chronicle.html)anyone there had issued threats to remove Carla Marinucci and possibly other Hearst reporters from the press pool covering the President in the Bay Area. Chronicle editor Ward Bushee called the press office on its fib:

Sadly, we expected the White House to respond in this manner based on our experiences yesterday. It is not a truthful response. It follows a day of off-the-record exchanges with key people in the White House communications office who told us they would remove our reporter, then threatened retaliation to Chronicle and Hearst reporters if we reported on the ban, and then recanted to say our reporter might not be removed after all.
The Chronicle's report is accurate.

If the White House has indeed decided not to ban our reporter, we would like an on-the-record notice that she will remain the San Francisco print pool reporter.

I was on some of those calls and can confirm Ward's statement.

Messy ball now firmly in White House court.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/bronstein/detail?entry_id=87978#ixzz1L3SQ68LS

[LedZap]

Obama Chicago style politics again.

[Limbo]

Well, it's hard to not mention this in a stupid Democrats thread. This is kind of similar to the original post in that a company has invested billions in some kind of business venture only to have it kiboshed at the last minute by unelected political hacks with ties to the Obama administration.

The pinheads on the Labor Relations Board (appointed by Obama) have told Boeing that they can't use a state of the art airplane manufacturing plant in North Carolina because "it may affect the collective bargaining rights of the union workers in Washington state". How so you may ask? Well, North Carolina, unlike Washington state, is a right-to-work state, meaning that workers can't be forced to join a union. Like WTF!!?

I wonder why businesses are afraid to expand or take any risks? Could it be they don't trust the activist Obama administration?

Is opening a factory in a right-to-work state illegal? (http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/is-opening-a-factory-in-a-right-to-work-state-is-illegal-says-nlrb--/question-1706569/)

[Carrot]

Yup, that's pretty retarded.

[beelzebub]

Oh the irony.

As for me, I'm not a republican... I can't even vote yet. i won't register with either party once I get my citizenship.


Same with me,.. I admit my preference is such that people will no longer be constrained by the social shackles we impose to make out lives worth "cents". I desire the BEST experience for everyone on this experience we call life.

[Patt]

Aptly titled:

Obama’s Medicare Appointee Has Accidental Encounter with Reality, Learns Nothing (http://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/obamas-medicare-appointee-has-accidental-encounter-with-reality-learns-nothing/)
April 30, 2011 by Dan Mitchell (http://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/author/danieljmitchell/)

I just read something that unleashed my inner teenager, because I want to respond with a combination of OMG, LMAO, and WTF.

Donald Berwick, the person appointed by Obama to be in charge of Medicare, has a column in the Wall Street Journal that makes a very good observation about how relative prices are falling for products bought and sold in the free market. But he then draws exactly the wrong conclusion by asserting that further crippling market forces for healthcare will yield similar cost savings for programs such as Medicare.

Here’s the relevant passage from his Wall Street Journal column (http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703778104576287433137279252.html).
The right way is to help bring costs down by making care better and improving our health-care system. Improving quality while reducing costs is a strategy that’s had major success in other fields. Computers, cars, TVs and telephones today do more than they ever have, and the cost of these products has consistently dropped. The companies that make computers and microwaves didn’t get there by cutting what they offer: They achieved success by making their products better and more efficient. …Under President Obama’s framework, we will hold down Medicare cost growth, improve the quality of care for seniors, and save an additional $340 billion for taxpayers in the next decade.
I have no idea whether Berwick realizes that he has inverted reality, so I can’t decide whether he is cynically dishonest or hopelessly clueless. All I can say with certainty is that what he wrote is sort of like asserting “gravity causes things to fall, so therefore this rock will rise when I let go of it.”

To explain, let’s start by looking at why relative prices are falling for computers, cars, TVs and telephones. This isn’t because the companies that make these products are motivated by selflessness. Like all producers, they would love to charge high prices and get enormous profits. But because they must compete for consumers who are very careful about getting the most value for their money, the only way companies can earn profits is to be more and more efficient so they can charge low prices.

[Patt]

Letterman Sounds Blacklist ‘Dog-whistle’; Threatens to Ban Trump for Being a Communist Racist (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2011/04/30/letterman-sounds-blacklist-dog-whistle-threatens-to-ban-trump-for-being-a-communist-racist/)
by John Nolte (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/author/jjmnolte)

Was questioning George W. Bush’s intelligence racist — a phony narrative Letterman himself relentlessly pushed?

Was digging into Bush’s National Guard records three-years into his presidency racist and off-limits?

Letterman knows Trump is no racist, he’s just trying to chill the billionaire into silence and at the same time send a ‘dog-whistle’ to his showbiz pals to follow suit. They all watched Obama’s poll numbers drop as Trump went after their precious one, and now they’re hurling around the word “racist” just as readily as McCarthy hurled “communist” in order to shut Trump up and shut him down.

This is nothing more than a variation of the showbiz blacklist of the 1950s; the creation of a phony charge in order to intimidate into silence and marginalize a political opponent.

Just as there are Birthers, there are now Racers — people obsessed with race and using the race card as a political weapon.


2012 is already getting ugly and we’re not even halfway through 2011.

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More stupid Democrats, this time in the senate.

Senators Want To Put People In Jail For Embedding YouTube Videos (http://www.infowars.com/embedding-youtube-videos-may-soon-be-a-felony/)

Democratic senators are trying to give a legislative kick-back to their supporters in Hollywood. What a bunch of dumb asses.

[hitekredneck]

shit like this is why i have little faith in the republicans, NO faith in the dems, and no hope for common sense

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I guess to be fair I should have a stupid Republicans thread, but the media is constantly lambasting republicans anyways, so it would be kinda redundant :)