Jesus...

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Created himself to kill himself to prove a point to himself? Or to save mankind wich he could have done without getting born in the human world and get crucified?

An other thing, why would it take a supernatural, omnipotent being six days to do anything? And why would he need an entire day to rest after he is done?

And why is the sins and the ten commandments, exactly thoose sins and ten commandments? It could have been completely different things.

And why would God create DNA, fossils, retroviral DNA and making animals with similiar DNA? And why does all animals look just like they do? Why is the world a small rock in a big empty space?

And why is god keeping track on everything we do, doesn't he have anything better to do? And when he already knows what we are going to do?

Anybody knows why?

[WhiteRaven]

"Created himself to kill himself to prove a point to himself? Or to save mankind wich he could have done without getting born in the human world and get crucified?"

agreed. Also, why, in the old testament, did god have to smell the burning flesh of animals to forgive mankind?

"An other thing, why would it take a supernatural, omnipotent being six days to do anything? And why would he need an entire day to rest after he is done?"

Good question, if god were really all powerful he'd do in it 0.000000000000000000000000000001 second, and would only need 0 seconds
to rest.

"And why is the sins and the ten commandments, exactly thoose sins and ten commandments? It could have been completely different things."

And why, when Moses went to get another tablet, were they completely different commandments?

"And why would God create DNA, fossils, retroviral DNA and making animals with similiar DNA? And why does all animals look just like they do? Why is the world a small rock in a big empty space?"

okay, Here I don't really see your point.

"And why is god keeping track on everything we do, doesn't he have anything better to do? And when he already knows what we are going to do?"

well he is omnipresent.(everywhere at once)

[Loseirdo]

"Created himself to kill himself to prove a point to himself? Or to save mankind wich he could have done without getting born in the human world and get crucified?"

God sent his only Son to us to be crucified for two reasons:
1. To fulfill the prophecies of the Old Testament.
2. To make a perfect covenant with mankind.

God wasn't trying to prove a point by becoming man and subsequently being killed. He did so in order that we might better understand His infinite compassion for us. Also, sacrifices were used by the Jews to relieve the people of their sins. Christ was therefore a perfect sacrifice that allowed all of mankind to be forgiven. His death and resurrection was a labor of Love.

"An other thing, why would it take a supernatural, omnipotent being six days to do anything? And why would he need an entire day to rest after he is done?"

We've already discussed this. Stop reading Genesis literally. It didn't take six days to create the Universe. Since the world hadn't been created yet, how would there even be a concept of time? Genesis merely illustrated the steps that creation followed using the concept of "days" as a metaphor so that the people could better understand. Obviously this didn't work for everyone.

"And why is the sins and the ten commandments, exactly thoose sins and ten commandments? It could have been completely different things."

It could have, but it's not. What's your point?

God gave us ten commandments and a specific list of sins because "right" and "wrong" are not relative, they are absolute. He was imparting this knowledge to us so that we may choose whether we will be good or bad.

"And why would God create DNA, fossils, retroviral DNA and making animals with similiar DNA? And why does all animals look just like they do? Why is the world a small rock in a big empty space?"

Because if it wasn't this way, it would have to be another way and you would still be asking this question. Why make it any way? God made it this way because this way works. That's the beauty of it.

"And why is god keeping track on everything we do, doesn't he have anything better to do? And when he already knows what we are going to do?"

You're putting God in a human position. He isn't sitting in Heaven with a ledger book propped up, making a list of who's been naughty and who's been nice. That's Limbo (I mean, Santa Claus). God is all knowing, so he already knows what we've done and what we're going to do. We cannot give God a concept of time because He is in all places and all times at once.

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okay, Here I don't really see your point.

If the animals only were supposed to be animals, then why did god create genes?

"And why is god keeping track on everything we do, doesn't he have anything better to do? And when he already knows what we are going to do?"

well he is omnipresent.(everywhere at once)

But why would he bother? Doesn't he have anything better to do?

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"An other thing, why would it take a supernatural, omnipotent being six days to do anything? And why would he need an entire day to rest after he is done?"

We've already discussed this. Stop reading Genesis literally. It didn't take six days to create the Universe. Since the world hadn't been created yet, how would there even be a concept of time? Genesis merely illustrated the steps that creation followed using the concept of "days" as a metaphor so that the people could better understand. Obviously this didn't work for everyone.

So it's simplyfied of something else that god did. You know, that actually makes sense.

"And why is the sins and the ten commandments, exactly thoose sins and ten commandments? It could have been completely different things."

It could have, but it's not. What's your point?

God gave us ten commandments and a specific list of sins because "right" and "wrong" are not relative, they are absolute. He was imparting this knowledge to us so that we may choose whether we will be good or bad.

Is everything god says good? Is worshiping an other god "bad"?

""And why would God create DNA, fossils, retroviral DNA and making animals with similiar DNA? And why does all animals look just like they do? Why is the world a small rock in a big empty space?"

Because if it wasn't this way, it would have to be another way and you would still be asking this question. Why make it any way? God made it this way because this way works. That's the beauty of it.

But why is it so complicated? He could have made things a lot more simple then it is.

[QUOTE=Loseirdo;34593]"And why is god keeping track on everything we do, doesn't he have anything better to do? And when he already knows what we are going to do?"

You're putting God in a human position. He isn't sitting in Heaven with a ledger book propped up, making a list of who's been naughty and who's been nice. That's Limbo (I mean, Santa Claus). God is all knowing, so he already knows what we've done and what we're going to do. We cannot give God a concept of time because He is in all places and all times at once.

So we don't have any free will?

[Loseirdo]

So it's simplyfied of something else that god did. You know, that actually makes sense.



Is everything god says good? Is worshiping an other god "bad"?



But why is it so complicated? He could have made things a lot more simple then it is.

"And why is god keeping track on everything we do, doesn't he have anything better to do? And when he already knows what we are going to do?"



So we don't have any free will?

The things that God says are good are good, and the things that God says are bad are bad. Therefore worshiping another god is bad.

Genetics is so complicated because that's how it had to be in order for it to work. Maybe there could be another way for it to work, but there's probably a reason it's as complicated as it is. I'm not a geneticist, so I won't try to make any guesses.

Yes, we have free will. Just because God knows what we're going to do doesn't mean we do. He allows us the free will to make our own choices, regardless of what they might be, and despite the fact that He already knows what we're going to choose. From God's point of view, yes, I guess there is such a thing as "fate". Since we can't see things from His point of view, though, we're able to make any decision we want and are in total control of our futures (okay, not total control).

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Yes, we have free will. Just because God knows what we're going to do doesn't mean we do. He allows us the free will to make our own choices, regardless of what they might be, and despite the fact that He already knows what we're going to choose. From God's point of view, yes, I guess there is such a thing as "fate". Since we can't see things from His point of view, though, we're able to make any decision we want and are in total control of our futures (okay, not total control).

How is that possible? If god created you and everything around you and he knows what choices you're going to make, then you can't have free will.

Free will is impossible when I come to think about it.

[conspiracy]

Created himself to kill himself to prove a point to himself? Or to save mankind wich he could have done without getting born in the human world and get crucified?

An other thing, why would it take a supernatural, omnipotent being six days to do anything? And why would he need an entire day to rest after he is done?

And why is the sins and the ten commandments, exactly thoose sins and ten commandments? It could have been completely different things.

And why would God create DNA, fossils, retroviral DNA and making animals with similiar DNA? And why does all animals look just like they do? Why is the world a small rock in a big empty space?

And why is god keeping track on everything we do, doesn't he have anything better to do? And when he already knows what we are going to do?

Anybody knows why?

Why do you care? Seriously why do you really care if you don't believe? Are you trying to believe or trying to make sure you aren't wrong about it all? Are you just curious? I'm not going to answer any of your question, not because I don't have an answer but because just like always anything we say you don't give a holy fuck about. You'd rather believe that you crawled out of the ocean and that's fine.I just don't get why you start these threads when you really don't give a rat's ass.

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Why do you care? Seriously why do you really care if you don't believe? Are you trying to believe or trying to make sure you aren't wrong about it all? Are you just curious? I'm not going to answer any of your question, not because I don't have an answer but because just like always anything we say you don't give a holy fuck about. You'd rather believe that you crawled out of the ocean and that's fine.I just don't get why you start these threads when you really don't give a rat's ass.

Theese are questions I don't get good answers for.

[conspiracy]

Theese are questions I don't get good answers for.

I apologize for my outburst ,Something....bad day at work already. : (